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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:15pm On Jul 27, 2023
And rice?
Jodera:
Both Zinny and Balogun were reported to train away from the first team bro
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 2:22pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:
And rice?
You didn't read the report Arteta said about Rice? shocked

Scroll up, you'll see it well
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:26pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
Lol....
You see this kind matter, until something is very very glaring, I no deh chuuk mouth again grin
Bro..as in eh. grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 2:28pm On Jul 27, 2023
BlueRayDick:


That's one of the lessons I learnt from that All or Nothing documentary. Most times we fans form opinions based on little or no information at our disposal without actually knowing the full story. Na so we roast Arteta that time thinking he was too harsh on Auba
I get boss. Infact that was part of our recent argument here concerning the youngsters. For a secretive coach like Arteta, we fans will need to calm down.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:57pm On Jul 27, 2023
Roland17:


My broda.. The way we handle transfers of our players is very poor but let’s see what happens. He barely got a start. I think Arteta doesn’t have him in his plans.
From what I read somewhere Balogun refused to played any other position apart from CF. He is bad energy and so was kicked out.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 3:00pm On Jul 27, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I think the problem with Arteta is that he’s too direct when dealing with players . He doesn’t even consider the player’s emotions and other stuff . I remember the Saliba issue back then, he made it quite obvious Saliba was as not in his plans and just couldn’t even consider making the fact known in a subtle manner .

I don’t know if they take psychology courses when taking their badge , but these coaches need to know some of the decisions they make on and off the pitch has psychological effect on the players they coach/manage
He is like Pep. They believe in total control.

Well I like it sha.

It's that fear of the manager that made the likes of Ferguson, Arsene, Mourinho, and Pep successful. If your player can not listen to you, he is not your player.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 3:31pm On Jul 27, 2023
Spy360:

From what I read somewhere Balogun refused to played any other position apart from CF. He is bad energy and so was kicked out.
So he should say it the way it's which one is foot injury
Person way get injury they train, i love straight forward people not beating round the bush
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 3:44pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

So he should say it the way it's which one is foot injury
Person way get injury they train, i love straight forward people not beating round the bush
Lol.... Na the matter wey you wan hear be this, so I'm not surprised you jumped into believing it. Afterall, you've been looking for anything, no matter how small, just so you would believe Arteta is lying in that quote

Spy read something "somewhere", no link, no reliable source, no nothing. Who knows, maybe it's one stupid blog that's just carrying postulations about things but somehow you just latched onto it and concluded that Arteta is lying.

Like the famous Madonna once said : "you only see what your eyes wants to see"

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:08pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
Lol.... Na the matter wey you wan hear be this, so I'm not surprised you jumped into believing it. Afterall, you've been looking for anything, no matter how small, just so you would believe Arteta is lying in that quote

Spy read something "somewhere", no link, no reliable source, no nothing. Who knows, maybe it's one stupid blog that's just carrying postulations about things but somehow you just latched onto it and concluded that Arteta is lying.

Like the famous Madonna once said : "you only see what your eyes wants to see"
Yes because arteta ain't innocent either
He should grow balls and stop hide and seek method

So to your own eyes person way get foot injury they train na injury oo not recovering
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:23pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Yes because arteta ain't innocent either
He should grow balls and stop hide and seek method

So to your own eyes person way get foot injury they train na injury oo not recovering

How do you know he's not innocent?
And even if he is guilty of what you're accusing him of, does he owe the press anything? Same Press/media that can overblow anything and everything?
You think we're in an ideal world? C'mon!


As for Balogun, on Monday he was made to train separately with a one on one trainer. I don't think this is anything new or sinister cos most arsenal players went through this drill eg Martinelli to improve his game.

After the training, Balogun even posted a diamond emoji in an arsenal shirt.(This was someone who was KICKED OUT, according to the "somewhere" read by Spy)

Another thing I noticed is that Rice wasn't available and the excuse given by Arteta is even more ridiculous if you look at it through "the Balogun lens". But guess what, that didn't cause any doubt because obviously, to you, there's no issues between Rice and Arteta.

Using Rice excuse and relate it to Balogun own, don't you this is just your false assumption playing tricks on you?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:35pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:


How do you know he's not innocent?
And even if he is guilty of what you're accusing him of, does he owe the press anything? Same Press/media that can overblow anything and everything?
You think we're in an ideal world? C'mon!


As for Balogun, on Monday he was made to train separately with a one on one trainer. I don't think this is anything new or sinister cos most arsenal players went through this drill eg Martinelli to improve his game.
After the training, Balogun even posted a diamond emoji in an arsenal shirt.

Another thing I noticed is that Rice wasn't available and the excuse given by Arteta is even more ridiculous if you look at it through "the Balogun lens". But guess what, that didn't cause any doubt because obviously, to you, there's no issues between Rice and Arteta.

Using Rice excuse and relate it to Balogun own, don't you this is just your false assumption playing tricks on you?
You know i don't like plenty shalaye, my point is pretty straight forward
He should call a spade a spade not shovel period
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:39pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

You know i don't like plenty shalaye, my point is pretty straight forward
He should call a spade a spade not shovel period
I'm calling a spade a spade. I don't think you're.

I posted 2 confirmed quote from the direct source, but you chose to believe a source from "somewhere" just because the "somewhere" validated your opinion on what was going through your head without finding whether it's true or false.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:44pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
I'm calling a spade a spade. I don't think you're.

I posted 2 confirmed quote from the direct source, but you chose to believe a source from "somewhere" just because the "somewhere" validated your opinion on what was going through your head without finding whether it's true or false.
Can an injured person train
Yes or No
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:47pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Can an injured person train
Yes or No
Yes na.
Is this the first time you'll be hearing about injured player training?

Abi no be same Zinny I tell you deh train away from the team too?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:48pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
Yes na.
Is this the first time you'll be hearing about injured player training?

Abi no be same Zinny I tell you deh train away from the team too?
So a person with foot injury can train too
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:50pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

So a person with foot injury can train too
Yes na...
Do you know the extent of the foot injury?

Do you know whether it's light training he's undergoing?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:56pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
Lol.... Na the matter wey you wan hear be this, so I'm not surprised you jumped into believing it. Afterall, you've been looking for anything, no matter how small, just so you would believe Arteta is lying in that quote

Spy read something "somewhere", no link, no reliable source, no nothing. Who knows, maybe it's one stupid blog that's just carrying postulations about things but somehow you just latched onto it and concluded that Arteta is lying.

Like the famous Madonna once said : "you only see what your eyes wants to see"

I don't know about what @Spy360 said but below are credible sources supporting the fact that Balogun is now training separately because he is about to be sold.

https://theathletic.com/4717350/2023/07/24/folarin-balogun-arsenal-training/

https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/25/folarin-balogun-training-alone-as-arsenal-seek-50m-for-inter-milan-target-19186428/

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/transfer-incoming-usmnt-folarin-balogun-trains-separately-arsenal-squad-us-tour/blt693a3de2b204b049
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:12pm On Jul 27, 2023
Roland17:


I don't know about what @Spy360 said but below are credible sources supporting the fact that Balogun is now training separately because he is about to be sold.

https://theathletic.com/4717350/2023/07/24/folarin-balogun-arsenal-training/

https://metro.co.uk/2023/07/25/folarin-balogun-training-alone-as-arsenal-seek-50m-for-inter-milan-target-19186428/

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/transfer-incoming-usmnt-folarin-balogun-trains-separately-arsenal-squad-us-tour/blt693a3de2b204b049

I just read all 3 sites and while they all corroborated to the fact that he trained away from the first team (which we all know), none was really certain that the reason why he trained away was because he wanted to be sold.

All they were just doing is speculations. Same thing most of us did here.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:44pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:


I just read all 3 sites and while they all corroborated to the fact that he trained away from the first team (which we all know), none was really certain that the reason why he trained away was because he wanted to be sold.

All they were just doing is speculations. Same thing most of us did here.
But you want us to believe an injured player is training alone with injury 😂
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 5:45pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Yes because arteta ain't innocent either
He should grow balls and stop hide and seek method

So to your own eyes person way get foot injury they train na injury oo not recovering
To your question? Yes...

If a player has a slight injury. To prevent aggravation, he would need to train alone to avoid physical contact.


In Balogun's case, his training may not even require kicking the ball. Just conditioning drills to stay in shape.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:52pm On Jul 27, 2023
mostob:
To your question? Yes...

If a player has a slight injury. To prevent aggravation, he would need to train alone to avoid physical contact.


In Balogun's case, his training may not even require kicking the ball. Just conditioning drills to stay in shape.
Depend what on the kind of foot injury
What training will help a painful foot
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 6:02pm On Jul 27, 2023
Xavi: "I understand that everyone wants to win, but I told Arteta that it looked
like a Champions League match. The intensity that they put was too high."



When did Xavi turned to cry baby? grin grin
Barcelona is my second team but I don't even have an iota of confidence in his ability.

Araujo's rough challenges on both Havertz and Jesus


Roberto kicking Trossard deliberately in front of Xavi himself


Balde not kicking the ball out when Saka went down.


Who was more intense abeg?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 6:05pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Depend what on the kind of foot injury
What training will help a painful foot
Did you read what you quoted? I clearly mentioned conditioning and staying in shape. Training may have nothing to do with the injured part of the body at times. And if it has something to do with the injured part, it will be a form of assessment to determine the extent of the injury.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:05pm On Jul 27, 2023
iamoyindamola:

But you want us to believe an injured player is training alone with injury 😂
He is not the only one training alone na.

You just dey forget Zinny grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 6:29pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:


I just read all 3 sites and while they all corroborated to the fact that he trained away from the first team (which we all know), none was really certain that the reason why he trained away was because he wanted to be sold.

All they were just doing is speculations. Same thing most of us did here.

None of them also speculated that he was training alone because of a foot injury. He was an unused sub against United and there was no report of an injury. We know there have been serious inquiries about him over the last week, so it makes sense to argue he is training away from the team because of his impending transfer, especially when you consider Arteta's history on how he handles transfers with our young players.

Also, remember, no player is 100% healthy so it is easy for coaches to use minor or small pain as a front to keep a player away from playing instead of an impending transfer in this case. In the NBA, coaches use small injuries as excuse to rest players.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:37pm On Jul 27, 2023
Roland17:


None of them also speculated that he was training alone because of a foot injury. He was an unused sub against United and there was no report of an injury. We know there have been serious inquiries about him over the last week, so it makes sense to argue he is training away from the team because of his impending transfer, especially when you consider Arteta's history on how he handles transfers with our young players.

Also, remember, no player is 100% healthy so it is easy for coaches to use minor or small pain as a front to keep a player away from playing instead of an impending transfer in this case. In the NBA, coaches use small injuries as excuse to rest players.
Fair and Valid points you raised. cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:40pm On Jul 27, 2023
mostob:
Xavi: "I understand that everyone wants to win, but I told Arteta that it looked
like a Champions League match. The intensity that they put was too high."



When did Xavi turned to cry baby? grin grin
Barcelona is my second team but I don't even have an iota of confidence in his ability.

Araujo's rough challenges on both Havertz and Jesus


Roberto kicking Trossard deliberately in front of Xavi himself


Balde not kicking the ball out when Saka went down.


Who was more intense abeg?
Lol, Xavi never see chumchin grin

We have Man city to play in less than two weeks if I'm not mistaken and he's still thinking we'll take that game as a "friendly"? grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 10:45pm On Jul 27, 2023
Jodera:
Lol, Xavi never see chumchin grin

We have Man city to play in less than two weeks if I'm not mistaken and he's still thinking we'll take that game as a "friendly"? grin



I actually have the belief that if we find a way to break Barca’s counter attacks , we will beat them silly in any competitive match ( UCL inclusive ).

We have the players and the team spirit to get the job done . We just need everybody to be at their A-game and we will eat them out
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:19am On Jul 28, 2023
Nobody is talking about this Viera’s goal…. Maybe cos the guy don too disappoint us sha .

But the goal was 🔥

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 6:30am On Jul 28, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Nobody is talking about this Viera’s goal…. Maybe cos the guy don too disappoint us sha .

But the goal was 🔥
.

He should do it for us when it matters most.
An EPL or UCL game
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Goona98: 6:35am On Jul 28, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Nobody is talking about this Viera’s goal…. Maybe cos the guy don too disappoint us sha .

But the goal was 🔥
He has big big potential. Think he'll do better in the ucl than epl.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 6:38am On Jul 28, 2023
BlueRayDick:
Nobody is talking about this Viera’s goal…. Maybe cos the guy don too disappoint us sha .

But the goal was
The goal madt but make e dey do am consistently. This guy has a crazy accuracy when striking the ball. The problem is he needs space.

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