What makes you believe in the existence of God and the Devil regardless of the fact that no one, including you, has seen them, felt them, talked to them, etc.

Or...

Do you believe simply because you were raised to?

Cybertroll:
■ What makes you believe in the existence of God and the Devil regardless of the fact that no one, including you, has seen them, felt them, talked to them, etc. Or...Do you believe simply because you were raised to?

How certain are you that no one has seen, felt, or spoken to them?

There are positive and negative forces

Kobojunkie:
How certain are you that no one has seen, felt, or spoken to them?

Anyone who has should speak up. If you have sound proof, please share.

You converse with spirits?

Cybertroll:
■ Anyone who has should speak up. If you have sound proof, please share. You converse with spirits?

Speak up regarding what exactly?

&what's your proof of No God and No Devil.

God and devil is a title not a person.

If you look up the origin of the word devil(daeva) and divine it comes from the same root word.
In other words devil and god mean same thing, for a story to be sweet you need a protagonist and antagonist.

Triplechoice make you dey learn.

Cybertroll:
What makes you believe in the existence of God and the Devil regardless of the fact that no one, including you, has seen them, felt them, talked to them, etc.

Or...

Do you believe simply because you were raised to?

I have seen and experienced the power of God.

I have also experienced demonic attacks.
Blood of Jesus and name of Jesus conquers them.

Run to Jesus now. Because after death, it will be impossible.

Cybertroll:
What makes you believe in the existence of God and the Devil regardless of the fact that no one, including you, has seen them, felt them, talked to them, etc.

Or...

Do you believe simply because you were raised to?

Objection sir ✋
I've felt God
Felt the devil
I've stood by someone who was seeing demons
I've talked to God
Spoken to the devil too.

Whatever the case, tye illuminati always makes me reconfirm that the devil still exists...

Or...

Do you believe simply because you were raised to?

By the way, I lost my belief in God (in a way) and was basically a living life like a freed slave...
I'm learning from personal experience that God is still up there and I'm jejely trying to couple up my chains and continue being a slave for Christ.

GanagiBitrus:
&what's your proof of No God and No Devil.

Thank you sir...
He'll start talking science very soon...

Cybertroll:
Anyone who has should speak up. If you have sound proof, please share.

You converse with spirits?

Hey, have you ever experienced sleep paralysis?
Something don press you for night before?

Just deny at once or man up and say the truth.

preciousee17:
■ Hey, have you ever experienced sleep paralysis? Something don press you for night before? Just deny at once or man up and say the truth.

Sleep Paralysis has absolutely nothing to do with God. I have experienced it and also used drugs in the treatment of it. Can your god be treated by the use of drugs?

Kobojunkie:
Sleep Paralysis has absolutely nothing to do with God. I have experienced it and also used drugs in the treatment of it. Can your god be treated by the use of drugs?

Sorry I wasn't asking you.

preciousee17:
■ Sorry I wasn't asking you.

As one who lived with a sleep disorder from childhood, I can definitively tell you it has nothing to do with God or demons.

Kobojunkie:
As one who lived with a sleep disorder from childhood, I can definitively tell you it has nothing to do with God or demons.

Imagine... I was asking someone about sleep paralysis, you jumped in with your sleeping disorder aka insomnia and other related stuff... You probably took some inhibitor drugs and now you forget that drugs can make you not to feel what's actually going on, even if it's still going on...

Brother, I wasn't talking about sleep disorders.
I wasn't even talking to you.

preciousee17:
■ Imagine... I was asking someone about sleep paralysis, you jumped in with your sleeping disorder aka insomnia and other related stuff... You probably took some inhibitor drugs and now you forget that drugs can make you not to feel what's actually going on, even if it's still going on...
■ Brother, I wasn't talking about sleep disorders.
I wasn't even talking to you.

Why would I need an inhibitor for sleep paralysis? Look, if you don't know much about sleep paralysis, I suggest you visit Google.

2. Sleep paralysis is a known symptom of some sleep disorders.

This is my first comment on Nairaland since I discovered Nairaland in 2014.

I've been a guest reader for years.
How I discovered Nairaland could be a discussion for another day.

I have seen a right opportunity to share my testimony beyond geographic boundaries.

Testimony 1: In January 2023, My neigbour connived with a gateman to accuse me falsely of stealing a polo(cloth). The neighbour has 2 old cars.
God surprised everyone in my neighborhood by giving me resources more than enough to buy a car more expensive than the two cars of the neighbour who accused me of stealing.

Testimony 2.
With God's mercy, God's grace and by the power of God, I survived an accident with my car and with the help of God, I repaired the car in some days.

I am one of the media through which God is providing financial support to our church building project, to my family and to some other people.

Testimony 3.
God gave me warning about a weakened
soak-away through several dreams(my brother's dream, my dream and my mother's dream).
I dreamt of myself moving safely towards the edge of a broken soak-away. I took the dream seriously as a warning sign.

On Saturday evening, July 29th 2023, I stepped on a soak-away, just when I got to the edge of the soak-away, there a crack happened, I moved away from the spot and the crack escalated until I saw sewage exposed .
I barricaded the broken area and informed my neighbours.

This is 2023 and I survived false accusation, financial hardship and I survived death 2 times.

No one survives false accusation, financial hardship and survives death once or multiple times all in 1 year without supernatural assistance.
God is the greatest and my Lord in the supernatural realm.

To God be the Glory forever.

Kobojunkie:
Speak up regarding what exactly?

That they've seen God. Obviously

preciousee17:


Hey, have you ever experienced sleep paralysis?
Something don press you for night before?

Just deny at once or man up and say the truth.

Sleep paralysis can be explained. What has this got to do with my topic?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-paralysis&ved=2ahUKEwi-8ZLRh7aAAxWiUkEAHd1gDH4QFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sCRF6roIE2EnZ7UvdJTrt

Testimony2023:
This is 2023 and I survived false accusation, financial hardship and I survived death 2 times.

No one survives false accusation, financial hardship and survives death once or multiple times all in 1 year without supernatural assistance.
God is the greatest and my Lord in the supernatural realm.

To God be the Glory forever.

Lmao!

What makes you think we haven't all been through this?

Can't believe you wasted your time and data to write this.

Cybertroll:
That they've seen God. Obviously

If they told you such would you believe them? Ofcourse not so they don't really owe you anything.

Testimony2023:
This is 2023 and I survived false accusation, financial hardship and I survived death 2 times.

No one survives false accusation, financial hardship and survives death once or multiple times all in 1 year without supernatural assistance.
God is the greatest and my Lord in the supernatural realm.

To God be the Glory forever.

Dude. You live in a country with prevalent poverty, none of what you have said here is remarkable.

I'm happy you mentioned sleep paralysis, but also note that it is neither caused by a god nor a devil.

Sleep paralysis is medically related other than supernaturally related.

preciousee17:


Hey, have you ever experienced sleep paralysis?
Something don press you for night before?

Just deny at once or man up and say the truth.

preciousee17:


Hey, have you ever experienced sleep paralysis?
Something don press you for night before?

Just deny at once or man up and say the truth.

Local people once thought epilepsy was caused by a god too.

@Testimony2023, all of your testimonies could happen to any one, both religionists and non-religionists. So it doesn't prove anything significant about god or devil.🤷

Maynman:

Local people once thought epilepsy was caused by a god too.

Busybrain2233:
I'm happy you mentioned sleep paralysis, but also note that it is neither caused by a god nor a devil.

Sleep paralysis is medically related other than supernaturally related.

Cybertroll:



Sleep paralysis can be explained. What has this got to do with my topic?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/sleep-paralysis&ved=2ahUKEwi-8ZLRh7aAAxWiUkEAHd1gDH4QFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2sCRF6roIE2EnZ7UvdJTrt

Kobojunkie:
Sleep Paralysis has absolutely nothing to do with God. I have experienced it and also used drugs in the treatment of it. Can your god be treated by the use of drugs?

Simple question, none of you could answer. Yes or no, you all start making bold claims and ascertations.
Didn't I call it sleep paralysis? Did I call it 'spiritual sleep paralysis'.
Some people are afraid tge truth may hurt them so they start babbling a bundle of words in advance to shield themselves.

Here's a reply for the OP. This is the point I was going to make with my sleep paralysis example

No don't get me wrong, I'm not even trying to convince anyone with the point I made.

I'm saying that the reasons you pointed out in your post are the same reasons you should believe in God.

I asked someone if he has experienced sleep paralysis and a bundle of atheists came and started saying things that its scientific and can be explained...
We say it's spiritual, they say it's scientific.
We pray and it gets cured, they take drugs and it goes.

Two explanations to the same matter, you choose the one you prefer to believe in.
Same thing with your post and points. Two explanations to the points, you believe the angle you choose to accept it from.

Moreover, scientific stuff is full of corrections and uncertainties. But religious (Christianity for instance) is always complete — no later adjustments except for the other hypocrisies here and there that claim to be Christians and every new understanding/knowledge is still brought out from the old unchanging Bible...

But scientific stuff tend to see errors and later correct it (I'm not saying it's bad).
What is bad is the hypocrisy (not even you, other people that tend to argue). They claim that the events written in the Bible are fake and didn't really happen and stuff like that even when other historical documents apart from the Bible show prove... But they believe that there are millions of galaxies and stuff like that (when they have not gone there or seen it with their eyes), wait oo, they also believe in photoshopping, but they don't believe that the government bodies can Photoshop documents and disperse to us, but they believe the government can fabricate religious stories and send to us.

The funniest thing about the whole matter is that there are people who unravel truths but those truths never make the News Headlines, instead you'll keep seeing bullshit everywhere.
This battle is not about me vs. you, there are people that dictate what the world should see and hear and it affects every single information (not just religious).
The battle is between the Masses vs. the Truth.
Dm me on WhatsApp and I'll give you a video evidence of what I'm saying.

Have you read the book 1984
That's what is happening literally.

Sorry it's long, but please read well before replying.

Testimony2023:
This is 2023 and I survived false accusation, financial hardship and I survived death 2 times.

No one survives false accusation, financial hardship and survives death once or multiple times all in 1 year without supernatural assistance.
God is the greatest and my Lord in the supernatural realm.

To God be the Glory forever.

They will look for what to say, no need telling them this here on this forum.
Infact, the more popular testimony of a young lad who was found under the rubble 3days or so after a building collapse die to earthquake in Turkey, and the boy wasn't hungry or anything and said that he was regularly fed by a man in white...
They said it's a chef... That God is a chef that entered the rubble to feed the boy frequently. 😂