Kobojunkie:
The same Jesus Christ also said, "Everyone must be born-again." He also said,"Except a man be born-again, He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." When you consider all that Jesus Christ said, "You will find that forgiveness isn't what grants you entry into the Kingdom of God. Rather, it is as Jesus Christ said, which is that you must be born-again in order to enter into the Kingdom of God.

You are speaking with both sides of your mouth. You cannot be saved with you sins intact. God abhor sins. You have to have your sins washed away first by way of forgiveness through obedience to be babtized.

Baptism is only necessary after salvation; not before salvation.

chibjohn:

No matter how righteous you are. If you are not baptized, no heaven. Even Jesus that is God was baptized when he came to the earth. What other example do you need? He was sinless and blameless yet he went to John the Baptist who was lower than him to get baptized. John 3:5 is very explicit on this. You have to be baptized with both water( physical baptism) and spirit for you to enter heaven. Any pastor that tells you otherwise isn’t a man of God.

So the thief on the cross later came down, went to Jordan and was baptized before entering paradise ?

Righthussle:


Saved from what exactly?

From sins and iniquity.

Hanndye:
■ You are speaking with both sides of your mouth.
■ You cannot be saved with you sins intact. God abhor sins.
■ You have to have your sins washed away first by way of forgiveness through obedience to be babtized.

1. I am afraid you are the one speaking out of ignorance.

2. This statement is a lie! Jesus Christ came to call sinners to salvation. What this means is that Everyone who comes to Jesus Christ and is born-again is a sinner with sins intact.

3. This statement is a lie as well. Jesus Christ never said you must first be free of sins before you can be baptized aka born-again. Read John 3 vs 1 - 21 as many times as you need to in order to understand His Truth in place of this lies you hold to.

Pacesetter123:

From sins and iniquity.

The first salvation in which you become born-again and receive the gift of eternal Life is from the curse of sin aka Death. Read John 3 vs 1 - 21 to gain wisdom on this.

After that, you are meant to seek first the Kingdom of God(Holiness) and then God's Righteousness, in order to obtain the second Salvation. And even then Jesus Christ said it is those who stand faithful until the end that will be saved.

Hanndye:
After the Outer-call or on the radio, after preaching, the preacher would ask those who wish to give their lives to Jesus to repeat certain words after him calling Jesus into their lives. Is this right and Baptism not neccesary?

That Altar-Call is a confession of sins unto a profession of repentance and upholding of the new faith, which by those words is bound on you as a new believer welcomed into the vineyard of God the Father through His Son Christ Jesus.
The essence of the Baptism is a public declaration that you have accepted Christ Jesus and your Saviour and Lord over your life and you are now to be counted as members who have been delivered from darkness into His marvelous light of Jesus Christ.
All these are Scriptural and you can't do otherwise for it is an obedience we ought to keep.

Pacesetter123:

From sins and iniquity.

Hahaha

bixton:
■ That Altar-Call is a confession of sins unto a profession of repentance and upholding of the new faith, which by those words is bound on you as a new believer welcomed into the vineyard of God the Father through His Son Christ Jesus.
The essence of the Baptism is a public declaration that you have accepted Christ Jesus and your Saviour and Lord over your life and you are now to be counted as members who have been delivered from darkness into His marvelous light of Jesus Christ.
■ All these are Scriptural and you can't do otherwise for it is an obedience we ought to keep.

I am afraid all of what you describe above are religious gibberish fed to you by your religious overlords or masters, and have nothing to do with what is in fact stated in the Gospels by Jesus Christ Himself..

2. Sorry, not true.

Believe in religion and miracle over technology is not going to help the black African citizen

Hanndye:

You are speaking with both sides of your mouth. You cannot be saved with you sins intact. God abhor sins. You have to have your sins washed away first by way of forgiveness through obedience to be babtized.

pls what are the value of this and the benefits

ichuka:
■ So the thief on the cross later came down, went to Jordan and was baptized before entering paradise ?

Open your eyes ans ears to learn from what is truly written. Paradise is the grave meaning the thief died that same day that Jesus Christ did. Paradise is not in the Kingdom of God.

Nigerians are too holy.

BigDawsNet:
It's very necessary.. if you want to dine with Jesus christ in Heaven

you mean the British god in heaven, oyinbo just came to locked us here and go their way, which value the religion add to our society today

FireUpNow:
so don't you think some who have willing hearts can be forgiven also without baptism

They will be judged according to their hearts.

Did the left thief by the cross baptism? Yet Jesus grant him paradise.

Chetas81:
you mean the British god in heaven, oyinbo just came to locked us here and go their way, which value the religion add to our society today

The relative freedom you enjoy today is because of Christianity.

Hanndye:

They will be judged according to their hearts.

Lol...where is this stated by God Almighty in scripture?

God said in Jeremiah 17 that the heart of man is extremely wicked. Are you insinuating that God was wrong and there are in fact some whose hearts are not extremely wicked out there outside of God's Law?

Gbright560:
Did the left thief by the cross baptism? Yet Jesus grant him paradise.

According to what Jesus Christ said to the thief, we know that paradise is the grave meaning the man died that same day that Jesus Christ did. Paradise is not the Kingdom of God.

Gbright560:
Did the left thief by the cross baptism? Yet Jesus grant him paradise.

Jesus had the power to forgive sins while He was on Earth. You should try to find out.

Hanndye:

Jesus had the power to forgive sins while He was on Earth. You should try to find out.

Jesus Christ also said that Everyone must be born-again.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ also said that Everyone must be born-again.

Just before His Ascension, Jesus gave the power of salvation to His disciples to preach the Gospel and baptise people in His Name. 'Whatever you bid on Earth shall be bound in Heaven', He said.

Wodu89:



I'm confident because I have deep knowledge of His words. He word says the spiritual man judges all things but He himself isn't judged.


I've been blessed with visions of the judgment room after death and can vividly depict it. I still had invite from Hevean last year when I was invited to witness the judgment of a saint and to intercede with the person to change before she dies.


I know the Lord, His will and His heart

Since you know the mind of the lord. Pls will Peter obi win in court?

Will Peter obi win if he contest in 2027?

Hanndye:
After the Outer-call or on the radio, after preaching, the preacher would ask those who wish to give their lives to Jesus to repeat certain words after him calling Jesus into their lives. Is this right and Baptism not neccesary?

Matthew 28:19,20
Jesus' final statement and his commission which He gave his followers on this earth is that we go into the world and:
1). Make disciples for him of all nations;
2). Baptizing them in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.
3). Keep teaching them to observe all his commands till the end of the age

Hanndye:
■ Just before His Ascension, Jesus gave the power of salvation to His disciples to preach the Gospel and baptise people in His Name.
■ 'Whatever you bid on Earth shall be bound in Heaven', He said.

1. Jesus Christ never gave power of salvation to any man. That lie that He did is of religion and not of God. Rather, Jesus Christ sent His disciples into the world, as He had done at least once before --- Matthew 10 --- urging them to teach the rest of the Lost sheep in the world the same teachings and commandments He had taught to them during the over 3 years He walked with them. Jesus Christ also commanded His followers to baptize those sinners who believe.

2. That Law does not change or render void any of that which is God's Law so I am not certain why you would assume it has that power to cancel God's own decree.

Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ never gave power of salvation to any man. That lie that He did is of religion and not of God. Rather, Jesus Christ sent His disciples into the world, as He had done at least once before --- Matthew 10 --- urging them to teach the rest of the Lost sheep in the world the same teachings and commandments He had taught to them during the over 3 years He walked with them. Jesus Christ also commanded His followers to baptize those sinners who believe.

2. That Law does not change or render void any of that which is God's Law so I am not certain why you would assume it has that power to cancel God's own decree.

The Bible talks about the disciples receiving power, so what power is It talking about?

Baptism doesn't save you—salvation comes by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). Your guilt before God is removed the moment you trust in Christ. But baptism is your personal testimony to, and the inward assurance of, your passage from the old life to the new life...

aioluwa:
Baptism doesn't save you—salvation comes by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). Your guilt before God is removed the moment you trust in Christ. But baptism is your personal testimony to, and the inward assurance of, your passage from the old life to the new life...

You can't trust in God without obeying Him.

John 3:5.

Hanndye:
■ The Bible talks about the disciples receiving power, so what power is It talking about?

The Bible does not speak--- it has no voice of its own--- so you need to be more specific about what you mean. Mark 16 vs 15 - 18, for instance, reveals the signs that follow all those who believe --- live their life in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

Afromentalist:
No such thing as salvation. It is a control mechanism to subdue the naive.

If we die to live forever, why not live forever directly without dying ?

It could have been possible if Adam did not fall.

aioluwa:
■ Baptism doesn't save you—salvation comes by faith alone (Ephesians 2:8-9). Your guilt before God is removed the moment you trust in Christ. But baptism is your personal testimony to, and the inward assurance of, your passage from the old life to the new life...

This is confusion that comes from trying to make the servant greater than his master. Basically, trying to use the words of the servant to parse the Master's when you ought first to understand the Master before you then attempt to understand the servant's words..

First, faith means living of one's life in continuous submission and obedience of God's teachings and commandments. It is what Abraham did that got Him justified by God - Genesis 26 vs 5-6 - and also what all are mandated by God to do if we are to benefit from Him and His promise.

Second, to be born-again (born of water and born of spirit) one has to have faith -- submit and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ --- in order to obtain that first salvation from the curse of sin which is Death. The same is expected in order to obtain the second and final salvation as well.