vdestro:


Repetition is proof of lack of substance.

Maynman:

Repetition helps a dullard to better understand.

vdestro:


Even dullards know not to accept unfounded shits and their repetitions just prove that they were shits the first time.

Maynman:

The books you base your life on are unfounded shits too na 😂

NNTR:
Ezekiel 22:30
'I searched for a man among them who would build up the wall
and stand in the gap before Me for [the sake of] the land, that I would not destroy it,
but I found no one [not even one].'

This is a very good worded sentence and done expressed so as to wring out information, loll

Phrase words first to be familiar with are: template/die/prototype/archetype/blueprint/exemplar/first model/original etc, then leader, example.

Next will be, to acknowledge that, sin, coming from a bible perspective, Jewish in particular, is a concept that has to do with missing a mark, coming off target, essentially falling short of God's standard, essentially, if said in layman terms, then a fault, defect, glitch, irregularity, crookedness or flaw.

Following will also be, to acknowledge that, the animal sacrifices of the Old Testament were temporaries, precursors of the sacrifice of Christ, of the New Testament, so to speak, who coincidentally is God Incarnate, that's meaning, God personified in human being flesh, i.e. God in human being body or flesh.

As for the, aforementioned 'template/die/prototype/archetype/blueprint/exemplar/first model/original etc', we see them in Manufacturing processes, Computing softwares, Biochemistry etc. Take for example, minting coins, requires using a die. Creating word documents requires, to start with, using a normal.dot template. Even, we all, as human beings, are archetypes of Adam and Eve. Nearly all living organisms have their genetics encoded in their DNA

Now, what is going to be the optimum correction, if something should go wrong (e.g. in terms, of a fault, defect, glitch, irregularity, crookedness, flaw, blemish, blotch, streak, wrinkle, kink etc) with an actual 'template/die/prototype/archetype/blueprint/exemplar/first model/original etc'?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

cc: TenQ

NNTR:
Genesis 2:16-17
16And the LORD God commanded him,
“You may eat freely from every tree of the garden,
17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil;
for in the day that you eat of it, you will surely die.”

Genesis 3:11
God said,
“Who told you that you were naked?
Have you eaten [fruit] from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Sand2022:
Man...
Rom 5:12

Myer:
Rom.5.12
- Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin,
and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-

Thanks for sharing.
Can you explain why?

Myer:
This is a very sensitive topic that I perceive needs to be discussed and addressed.
May God grant us all answers.

Feel free to share your personal opinion without feeling pressured to sound religious please.
And feel free to share your religion's position as well with references please.

cc jesu sjnr
koboju nkie
maxint hehouse
righteousne ss69
seu n
mods

EnemyofGod2:


God is to be blame,God causes all the problem of mankind,God knew from the beginning that Adam and eve are going to eat the fruit,yet he still went ahead and created the tree 🎄 and put it in the middle of the garden, what did he expect ?

God created Satan in heaven and Satan disobeyed him and start a war with him in heaven, instead of God to kill Satan and end every nonsense that will emanate from him,he instead then throw Satan to earth, the bible make us to believe that the angels in heaven were so happy as Satan is no longer there with them,imagine the almighty heaven ooo.

Now do to his inability to kill Satan from the beginning, when the human start to the sin against him he begin to flex muscle 💪 and cowardly sent flood to distroy them .

That's not all.

After distroyed the earth, everything was going well smoothly, humans were living in a very peaceful way, they love themselves to the extent that they decided to build a big house which they will use to live in harmony,but the insecure and illegitimate God decide to distroy them by sending confusion to them and change their language,

as of them, no technology nothing nothing, even now with the sufisticated technology,human can't build house reach heaven, impossible. God knew there's no way human can build house reach heaven yet he went ahead and created problem for them by changing their language's.

I can go on and on but let me stop here.


Before I forget. God, Satan or Jesus Christ doesn't exist, there's no verifiable recognizable concretable approvable evidence of their existence, no man Born of woman has ever proof his existence.

For you to believe that God or Satan existed,It's a symptoms of primitivity of mentality primordial sensibility retrogressive discretion bankruptcy of ideology and cerebral sclerosis and you need to see a doctor with immediate alacrity.

EnemyofGod2:

God is to be blame,God causes all the problem of mankind,God knew from the beginning that Adam and eve are going to eat the fruit,yet he still went ahead and created...

bukatyne:


@Topic:

Who did God blame?

bukatyne:
@Topic:
Who did God blame?

vdestro:
The souls He punished shows you.

NNTR:

God is not in any blaming game business. He gives just desserts (i.e. gives reward for what has been done - whether good or bad)...

vdestro:
And that is The Truth!

Myer:


Rom.5.12 - Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-

Thanks for sharing.
Can you explain why?

bukatyne:


@Topic:

Who did God blame?

Sand2022:


Adam and Eve had freewill. They could have chosen to follow what God said and remain alive.

Maynman:

If they had freewill, why can’t they use it?

Sand2022:


They did.

Maynman:

What’s the of the free will if they will be punished for using it?

Sand2022:


If you have a work license and uses your office for something illegal, will you be punished?

Maynman:

If anything is illegal, how are you exercising free will?

Free will is when you tell a kid to pick whatever chocolate flavors she likes without consequence of punishment or reward.

When you attach a reward or punishment to it, the kid is not choosing freely, the kid is only reacting to the consequences.

Sand2022:


But what if the kid goes on to defecate on the chocolate? Or goes on to pick an orange meant for someone else? Or what if the kid picks the chocolate and inserts it into his anus or poke his eyes with the stick? Will he suffer for it?

Sand2022:


Freewill is just right to do whatever you want. That's all. What you do might have consequences, either good or bad. Whichever one you chose, no one force you to do it, you did it of your own volition. That's freewill.

Maynman:

You can’t say someone have freewill and you are still the same person punishing them for using that freewill.

Sand2022:


No, you get punished if you misuse your freedom. And your misusing it was done freely without being coerced. There are 99% things you could do within your freewill without any punishment, why do the 1% you were restricted from? It means that you FREELY decided to fall into a ditch.

God didn't issue absolute freedom. That would in fact be disastrous and unloving. It means that one might decide to kill another or burn another's building cos he feels it's the right thing.

Maynman:

Who decides how you use your own freewill?
If you get punished for “misusing” your freewill, you never had freewill.

Exactly your god didn’t give you freewill. He gave you laws that limits your freewill.

We see how israelites were killing other tribes, even taking their lands.

Sand2022:


So if Mr A shoots B, he should go free with it right? Just so that he can have freewill.

Myer:
This is a very sensitive topic that I perceive needs to be discussed and addressed.
May God grant us all answers.

Feel free to share your personal opinion without feeling pressured to sound religious please.
And feel free to share your religion's position as well with references please.

cc jesusjnr
kobojunkie
maxinthehouse
righteousness69
seun
mods

Maynman:

Who told mr A and B they have freewill?
Even in Nigeria constitution you don’t have freewill, that’s why there are laws and if you break it you will be punished.
Nigeria constitution has set up CERTAIN citizen rights.

Sand2022:


You have freewill brother. It appears you don't undythe meaning of free will. Let's see what Webster's Dictionary says:

1. voluntary choice or decision. Eg I do this of my own free will

2: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention.

These are the definition of free will. If you can make a choice without being coded to decide that way, you have free will.

Maynman:

Read your number 2 especially.

Choices that are not determined by prior causes. If you are doing something because of the consequences you are not doing it from freewill, you are only reacting to the consequences.

Sand2022:


Hmmm you de wonderful o. This discussion will really take a century to end if you don't understand common definition.

When did prior cause turn to consequences? My brother what that definition is saying is that one's decisions is not based on pre-determination. Eg, you set your alarm to ring by 8pm. If it rings at that time, it did so because of your earlier or prior setup. It didn't ring by its own prompting.

In other words, the definition is saying that if you're not pre-destined, you have free will.