MaxInDHouse:


When i first attend the meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses i was really impressed because they are really following Jesus' order back to back.

So if someone say anything against them back then i only try to figure out if such a person knows how dedicated Jehovah's Witnesses are in doing what Christ commanded my brother it's either envy or misinformation that's worrying them!

johnw47:


corny boy, of course you laugh out loud to a Christian's declaration that Jesus is Lord

1Co_12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed"; and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

1Co 8:6  yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. 

Joh 13:13  "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am.

cornelboy:

Envy, misinformation or hypocrisy.
Like that Pharisees did in the of Jesus and early church.

cornelboy:

Argue with the Bible

Emusan:


And these are the Bible verses you're still contending with

NWT:
Isaiah 48:13 "My own hand laid the foundation of the earth, And my right hand spread out the heavens. When I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 44: 24 "This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, Who formed you since you were in the womb: “I am Jehovah, who made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself, And I spread out the earth. Who was with me?"

Just tell us that Jehovah was lying here!

MaxInDHouse:


The truth is not far fetched, they only criticize Jehovah's Witnesses because we don't acknowledge their pastors as men of our God but the funny thing about them is that they're not even sure of those they're following as they can't agree on which of their so called pastors is really a God sent.
If you ask each of them now to mention the name of their pastors and what their fellow Nairalander Christians have to say about the pastor you will be surprised that they don't have any that's why they're really worried as we know our own leaders and stick to their teachings {Act 2:42; Hebrews 13:7} while they are scattered (confused) in their opinion regarding who should take the lead among them! Luke 11:23

cornelboy:

Na politics dem dé play for all those churches oh. Dem dé buy position self

Emusan:


And these are the Bible verses you're still contending with

NWT:
Isaiah 48:13 "My own hand laid the foundation of the earth, And my right hand spread out the heavens. When I call to them, they stand up together.

Isaiah 44: 24 "This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, Who formed you since you were in the womb: “I am Jehovah, who made everything. I stretched out the heavens by myself, And I spread out the earth. Who was with me?"

Just tell us that Jehovah was lying here!

Jehovah God did not lie.
Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 48:13= Proverbs 8:27.
Your own Bible, Proverbs 8:27 PROVEN Emusan Sifia pains WAILING on Nairaland.

"When HE (Jehovah God in verse 22) established the heavens, I (Wisdom, Jesus Christ in 1 Cor 1:20,24) was there."

Daniel 4:30 is similar to Isaiah 44:22.
Did Nebuchadnezzar say that he alone built his Palace?
Yes.

Daniel 4:30,Who was with Nebuchadnezzar when he built the palace?

Emusan sold his brain to Trinity.

Emusan:


Good! So was God lying to the Old Testament people then?



Now you have accepted that Jesus Christ is a Creator because ONLY a Creator can CREATE.

Anyways, I know you will change mouth again.



No one disputes this.

But at least you believe God can't lie by claiming to create everything ALL BY HIMSELF.



But it was Christ who CREATED EVERYTHING



But you said above that "at Hebrew 1:10, he claimed that his son created" can you see how confused people like you who follow doctrines of men can be?



Solve the one you put yourself into first!

Psalms 102:24-25
24I say: “O my God, do not take me in the midst of my days! Your years go on through all generations. 25In the beginning You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Hebrews 1:10 is a copy of Psalms 102:25.
Therefore, Hebrews 1:10 references Jehovah God, nothing there concern Jesus.

Or :
@ Psalms 102:24-25,do you agree that Jesus is the God of David?

Mbanu!!!

Proverbs 8:27 is the nemesis of Trinitarians.
They are desperate to elevate Jesus above God his Father ( meaning God his Senior).

Janosky:

Jehovah God did not lie.
Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 48:13= Proverbs 8:27.
Your own Bible, Proverbs 8:27 PROVEN Emusan Sifia pains WAILING on Nairaland.
"When HE (Jehovah God in verse 22) established the heavens, I (Wisdom, Jesus Christ in 1 Cor 1:20,24) was there."
Daniel 4:30 is similar to Isaiah 44:22.
Did Nebuchadnezzar say that he alone built his Palace?
Yes.
Daniel 4:30,Who was with Nebuchadnezzar when he built the palace?
Emusan sold his brain to Trinity.

cornelboy:
What's the essence of shouting "Jesus is lord" but you don't even follow Jesus like the JWs do?

cornelboy:
What's the essence of shouting "Jesus is lord" but you don't even follow Jesus like the JWs do?

Jokerman:

Once you've seen Jesus, you've seen God.

Jokerman:


Jude 9 says that Michael would not rebuke or accuse Satan on His own authority, but only say “The Lord rebuke you.” This shows that Michael isn’t Jesus, because Jesus often rebuked Satan and demons in His own authority (Matthew 17:18, Mark 1:25, 9:25, Luke 4:8, 4:35).

johnw47:

and that's when He was a man, imagine what Jesus can do in The Spirit as The Word of God,
The Word of God is Jesus name in The Spirit, not michael:
Rev 19:13  He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Archangel means the greatest of all angels and that shows he is God's chief spokesman among the angels: the word of God!

johnw47:


and that's when He was a man, imagine what Jesus can do in The Spirit as The Word of God,
The Word of God is Jesus name in The Spirit, not michael:

Rev 19:13  He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

johnw47:

oh duh lost false jw mad max
archangel means chief angel of which michael is one of
Jesus/The Word of God isn't just God's chief spokesman of the angels
The Word of God is God's chief spokesman in everything you talk a lot of rot out of your head, don't you

Jokerman:

I'm telling you

Jokerman:
My last post to the deceived JW concerning Archangel Michael not being the same as Jesus Christ.

1. Jude 9 says that Michael would not rebuke or accuse Satan on His own authority, but only say “The Lord rebuke you.” This shows that Michael isn’t Jesus, because Jesus often rebuked Satan and demons in His own authority (Matthew 17:18, Mark 1:25, 9:25, Luke 4:8, 4:35).

2. Who fights in this battle? This is truly a battle between equals. The dragon represents Satan (Revelation 12:9), and Satan is not the counterpart of God – God has no counterpart. If anyone, Satan is the counterpart of Michael, who seems to be the chief angel opposite this chief of fallen angels.


3. Some say Michael must be Jesus, because he has his angels. But if Satan – a fallen angelic being – has his angels (Revelation 12:7), can’t Michael – an unfallen angelic being – have his angels?


4. Why was Michael not able to cast Satan out of heaven until Jesus Christ was resurrected and taken back to heaven in revelation 12..

Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Who is this man child?? Is this not Jesus Christ?? Now read what follows in the next verses

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Why do you think there was/will be war in heaven?? This is because Jesus Christ ascended back to heaven and stopped Satan from accessing that realm again, and that's why Satan put up a fight with his angels. Prior to Jesus death and resurrection, Satan had access to heaven and kept accussing everyone before God, yet Michael and other angels has no authority to cast him out


Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

So the JW should read this passage and see their folly of calling Angel Michael as Jesus Christ.

Once you've seen Jesus, you've seen God.

Janosky, cornelboy etc

johnw47:


dum false jw corny boy, me no shout Jesus is Lord, me say Jesus is Lord,
you false jw's can never stop lying, can you

i don't do anything like you false jw's, some hang with me long ago trying to have me join,
iv'e heard their lies when preaching, and what they say when not preaching first hand,
for instance one said, "that house over there", pointing to a very nice house, "will be mine after armageddon"
see how you people covert

another false jw said to me, "don't keep talking about Jesus, He is no one"

you false jw's are the great Jesus deniers, of course you don't like saying Jesus is Lord:

1Jn_2:23  Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

Mat_10:33  "But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

cornelboy:
It's not just about quoting verses and shouting "Jesus is lord" but following Jesus and Jehovah's commandments and serving them.

MaxInDHouse:
That's where we disagree!
Archangel means foremost of all heavenly sons of God and there's no other.
It's OK continue PREACHING and TEACHING what you know in your neighbourhood as long as it's yielding positive results {Matthew 7:16-18} and all those you're helping are also preaching zealously like real disciples {Matthew 28:19 compare to James 2:18-26} there's nothing to worry about!

cornelboy:

This is super story 🎵

cornelboy:
If tell me "three in one God" shit I can argue that one till death.

johnw47:

you can keep preaching/teaching lies forever, it will never make them true:

MaxInDHouse:
If LIES can make disciples of people from all nations {Matthew 28:19-20} instill in their hearts love for enemies {Matthew 5 43-48} for neighbours {Mark 12:31} and for fellow believers {John 13:34-35} and erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons in their hearts {Isaiah 2:4 compare to Matthew 26:52} and make them the topic of all others claiming religionists! Matthew 5:14-16
Then present what TRUTH has been doing! James 2:18-26

johnw47:

lost false jw mad max
Truth has been teaching the saved to avoid sewer talk
you are full of never ending rubbish out of your head

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said:
"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16

MaxInDHouse: James said:
“You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” James 2:18

MaxInDHouse: So if you say our teachings is LIES i think it will be better for you to present what your TRUTH is doing among adherents that we can all see in the society?

MaxInDHouse:


Great!
So keep telling all your fellow religionists so that they can become zealous in preaching and teaching just as real disciples should be doing in their neighbourhood! Matthew 28:19-20