Jokerman:


Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Now see the chapter 👇

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Now..

1. Are the man child and Michael the same?

Jokerman:


Are demons not working with Lucifer??

Wait, why are they called devils or Satan? Did God created them to be Satan or devils or demons?

Are they not all fallen angels?

Jokerman:

Are demons not working with Lucifer??
Wait, why are they called devils or Satan? Did God created them to be Satan or devils or demons? Are they not all fallen angels?

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ humble yourself and learn!

The Archangel Michael had authority before coming to the earth but the power for him to bound other angels hasn't been given to him until his successfully earthly mission so he can only scare them away as they already know how great he is back in heaven!

God never declared any other loyal angel's name apart from Michael and Gabriel your Uriel and Raphael are demons found in magic books not in the Bible!

Janosky:

The Devil is not demons,demons work with the Devil.

Mark 8:33 Jesus rebuke Peter not Satan.
Please stick to what your Bible says.

Jokerman:

Lol... So why was Jesus casting out demons,binding them and casting them to the Abyss or into pigs brfore he went to the cross?? Or haven't you read that the devils were subject unto the disciples of Jesus before the successful mission on earth?

Jokerman:

Lol... At least you know that there were other angels, and what degree of angel is Gabriel... Is he an archangel or a normal angel?😬

MaxInDHouse:


All of them were formerly loyal spirit sons of God but they allowed themselves to be lured into committing sin! 2Peter 2:4

And after God has disengaged them from the duties they had in heaven they must become submissive to the angel who has already gained access to the planet through the rebellion of Adam.

So they all had equal rights back in heaven but on earth Satan who is the ruler on planet earth is their ruler!

Jokerman:

So they all work with and for Satan then?

MaxInDHouse:


God's servants has the right to expel demons but Jesus' disciples don't know that as servants of God that authority belongs to them that's why Jesus told them that even faith as tiny as the mustard seed is enough to do that.
They can't cage any demons all they can do is send them away from their territory so as not to disturb their preaching and teaching work in Israel!

So learn today that only two angels were mentioned by name throughout the Bible:

Michael and Gabriel, God's word called Michael the Archangel meaning the first and foremost of all the angels which is exactly the same description that was given to Jesus!

Jokerman:


Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

Now see the chapter 👇

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Now..

1. Are the man child and Michael the same?

Jokerman:

Matthew 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 18:19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Jokerman:

So why did Jesus tell his disciples this before he went to the cross?

Jokerman:

Where was Jesus called Angel in the Bible?

cornelboy:
Lol have I ever disputed that he said that?

He also said the son made the heavens and the earth..

Hebrews 1:10
[10]He also says to the Son,
“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
    and made the heavens with your hands.

And it says here that God created the universe through Jesus the son.

[2]And now in these final days, he has spoken to us through his Son. God promised everything to the Son as an inheritance, and through the Son he created the universe.

Figure it out 😂😂

Janosky:
Jehovah God did not lie.

Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 48:13= Proverbs 8:27.
Your own Bible, Proverbs 8:27 PROVEN Emusan Sifia pains WAILING on Nairaland.

"When HE (Jehovah God in verse 22) established the heavens, I (Wisdom, Jesus Christ in 1 Cor 1:20,24) was there."

Daniel 4:30 is similar to Isaiah 44:22.
Did Nebuchadnezzar say that he alone built his Palace? Yes.

Daniel 4:30,Who was with Nebuchadnezzar when he built the palace?

Emusan sold his brain to Trinity

Janosky:
Psalms 102:24-25
24I say: “O my God, do not take me in the midst of my days! Your years go on through all generations. 25In the beginning You laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.

Hebrews 1:10 is a copy of Psalms 102:25.
Therefore, Hebrews 1:10 references Jehovah God, nothing there concern Jesus.

Or :
@ Psalms 102:24-25,do you agree that Jesus is the God of David?

Mbanu!!!

Proverbs 8:27 is the nemesis of Trinitarians.

They are desperate to elevate Jesus above God his Father ( meaning God his Senior).

Janosky:

The Devil is not demons,demons work with the Devil.

Mark 8:33 Jesus rebuke Peter not Satan.
Please stick to what your Bible says.

Janosky:
"He also says to the Son", this expression is NOT in Hebrew 1:10.
It's spurious

Hebrews 1:10 is copied from Psalms 102:24-25.

@ Psalms 102:24-25, is Jesus Christ the God of king David?

No!

Therefore, Jehovah God is referenced in Hebrew 1:10, this verse refers to Jehovah God.

Proverbs 8:22,27, Jesus Christ ( Wisdom personified) stated that God his Father created the heaven.

Jokerman:


Who did Jesus rebuke in Matt 4?

Emusan:


Smile...yet your brother who knows the truth clearly said and I quote "He also said the son made the heavens and the earth..

Hebrews 1:10
[10]He also says to the Son,
“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth
and made the heavens with your hands.

Emusan:


Definitely you don't tell yourself the truth because everyone knows that Heb is ALL ABOUT the Son.

Unfortunately, I know after the brainwashed by Watchtower he'll soon be claiming Heb 1:10 is about Jehovah

Emusan:


Capital YES!

Jesus Himself agree to that.

Emusan:

No! It's actually your nightmare! because The wisdom described in Prov 8 is just an ONLOOKER while God was actually carrying out the activities.

So tell us One thing Wisdom CREATED according to Prov 8.

No! We actually remember what Jesus said that He existed ALONGSIDE OF His Father.

While you Jehovah Witness relegated Jesus to ordinary Angel because of your evil mind against the Creator of you

Emusan confused LIAR

Proverbs 8:27-30
27“When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He decreed a vault on the face of the deep,

28“When He set the clouds above, When He made the fountains of the deep strong,

29“When He gave to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He decreed the foundations of the earth,

30“Then I was beside Him, a master workman

Emusan's says Jesus the Wisdom of God is an ONLOOKER in Proverbs 8:27-30.
The created work man called Wisdom/Jesus Christ, Emusan relegated to "ONLOOKER" .

Emusan:


Was the word "OTHER" in Col 1:16-18?

Have you called it SPURIOUS?





But the content of Heb is all about the SON!

Which means he knows what that verse means and who is actually about.

I know he will soon ditch his own understanding of that verse when Watchtower brainwashing sets in



Yes! Reason why you're pained to marrow.



Liar! Everyone knows that verse is in reference to Jesus but since you know Jesus made Jesus the Creator you have to twist it.

Anyways, your organisation has been trying since 100years and still failing.



So Jesus was not the ONLY THING God the Father created

Now Wisdom is personified again in Prov 8 the same you who claimed wisdom is a PERSON on this same thread, just see how Devil and evil doctrines is playing with your mind.

Emusan LIAR, you break speedometer for dullness.

Janosky:

Emusan confused LIAR
Proverbs 8:27-30
27“When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He decreed a vault on the face of the deep,
28“When He set the clouds above, When He made the fountains of the deep strong,
29“When He gave to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He decreed the foundations of the earth,
30“Then I was beside Him, a master workman
Emusan's says Jesus the Wisdom of God is an ONLOOKER in Proverbs 8:27-30.
The created work man called Wisdom/Jesus Christ, Emusan relegated to "ONLOOKER" .

MaxInDHouse:
“You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” James 2:18

MaxInDHouse:
The same verse most religionists claiming they are believers will quote yet all they have is mere arguments. Deeperlife against RCCG, Winners against Christ Embassy, MFM against Chosen. So if you can't mention the works you are doing in your faith that makes you a liar deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse: You don't have anything tangible to say my guy you're just blabbing!

MaxInDHouse:
They say the wisdom of God is not a person on his own {Proverbs 8:1} yet Paul made us understand that Christ is the one called the wisdom of God! 1Corinthians 1:30
I'm just tired of trinitarians!

Emusan:


Good! So God is not lying which means He actually created everything By Himself.



The Son is then A CREATOR because ONLY A CREATOR can Create



So why are you now saying the Son isn't a Creator when The Father Himself said The Son is?



Which means both must be the same.



I do, did you?

Janosky:
Mark 8:33 Jesus rebuke Peter not Satan.

cornelboy:

You're right Sir.

johnw47:

and we are not saved by works but by God's grace:

Eph 2:8  For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 
Eph 2:9  not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 

johnw47:

if Christians don't tell you satan's mob, about the works we do, makes us liars,