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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 8:45pm On Sep 03, 2023
Mikel Arteta on Kai Havertz: “I said to him yesterday: things are hard at the beginning. When I met my wife, at the beginning it was hard to conquer her. It was hard, I had to try and message her, and go, and go. And at the end when she says ‘yes we can be together’ it’s beautiful.”

[Sky Sports]






Man should just concentrate on Philosophy. That's how he brought bulb and wire to the dressing room that year. He say make the players dey rub hand together grin grin grin grin



Person dey flop, you dey talk relationship. How? How both take relate?

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:11pm On Sep 03, 2023
I missed the match... E pain me eh..





Nice performance.... make I go watch highlight
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:11pm On Sep 03, 2023
BlueRayDick:
This is what arsene Wenger call Paśśion
Baba wan cry grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:28pm On Sep 03, 2023
Jodera:
Omorr, I don talk for here, Havertz no be am. See how our attack was very fluid and understanding, very fast and accurate. Kai is a very very big minus two. One of the worst overhyped generational talent I've ever seen.
Abeg, make nobody dey defend Havertz for here again biko.

Good 3 points today. I no wan talk too much. Happy for the win. Very good subs today by Arteta


Happy for that back 4. See how our Gabriel dey ball alongside Saliba. Our only weak link is just Havertz.

COYG!!
If not for gabu the garnacho goal for stand
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:42pm On Sep 03, 2023
iamoyindamola:

If not for gabu the garnacho goal for stand
If Gabu wasn't in this match sef, Hojlund would have bullied Kiwior and possibly score us even before the Garnacho goal.

Omorr, see sweet ball we just deh miss because of stupid Havertz inclusion and just altering players position anyhow
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:43pm On Sep 03, 2023
mostob:
I missed the match... E pain me eh..






Nice performance.... make I go watch highlight
You MISSED walahi!!! grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:46pm On Sep 03, 2023
mostob:
Mikel Arteta on Kai Havertz: “I said to him yesterday: things are hard at the beginning. When I met my wife, at the beginning it was hard to conquer her. It was hard, I had to try and message her, and go, and go. And at the end when she says ‘yes we can be together’ it’s beautiful.”

[Sky Sports]






Man should just concentrate on Philosophy. That's how he brought bulb and wire to the dressing room that year. He say make the players dey rub hand together grin grin grin grin



Person dey flop, you dey talk relationship. How? How both take relate?
I don't know how this Man will see arsenal playing football without Havertz and still insist on playing Havertz.

We no dey enjoy our premium enjoyment with this Havertz matter.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by chrisooblog: 9:46pm On Sep 03, 2023
grin but seriously wetin dey do Kai? Ball dey your leg you come miss am in slow motion undecided

Big ups to captain fantastic, sweet jolloff rice and Jesus for making that guy slide down in green pastures.

Sweetest victory after making Rio Ferninand shed ugly tears after the FA Cup final that year.


mostob:
Mikel Arteta on Kai Havertz: “I said to him yesterday: things are hard at the beginning. When I met my wife, at the beginning it was hard to conquer her. It was hard, I had to try and message her, and go, and go. And at the end when she says ‘yes we can be together’ it’s beautiful.”

[Sky Sports]






Man should just concentrate on Philosophy. That's how he brought bulb and wire to the dressing room that year. He say make the players dey rub hand together grin grin grin grin



Person dey flop, you dey talk relationship. How? How both take relate?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:48pm On Sep 03, 2023
Jodera:

If Gabu wasn't in this match sef, Hojlund would have bullied Kiwior and possibly score us even before the Garnacho goal.

Omorr, see sweet ball we just deh miss because of stupid Havertz inclusion and just altering players position anyhow
Kaikai is possessed
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:55pm On Sep 03, 2023
Even that penalty sef?
How person go get chance to score but he's hoping on contact just so he would get penalty

He was even shamelessly diving sef, In this var era, instead of looking to score undecided

This guy even lack that confidence in his mentality and that's what is even worse.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:57pm On Sep 03, 2023
iamoyindamola:

Kaikai is possessed
Him just dey kill our game. A very big minus two!

Imagine Havertz having that Viera chance, na so him for pass that ball back cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 10:01pm On Sep 03, 2023
Jodera:
Even that penalty sef?
How person go get chance to score but he's hoping on contact just so he would get penalty

He was even shamelessly diving sef, In this var era, instead of looking to score undecided

This guy even lack that confidence in his mentality and that's what is even worse.

I have said it here... Havertz should not be starting match but he should be allowed to come from the bench... Arteta is putting him under pressure... Cos he wants Harvez to blow at all cost.

See Rice, we don't need many explanation to know someone is good. If you are good we should see it within 2 to 4 matches. Rice deserve his price... But Havertz...

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkforyou(m): 10:32pm On Sep 03, 2023
Special shout to Gabu!

His quick thinking made Genacho to be on offside position.

That was absolutely brilliant.

He also did well, marking that Holjlund.

The way Kai plays you can see he is mentally weak and lacks confidence. That penalty self, if it was another player, they won’t hesitate to try and score, but look at what happened, we missed the chance and missed the penalty opportunity.

I keep asking, why is Arteta lenient on Hervertz, but ruthless with Awilo and Pepe when all of them are in the same category?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:40pm On Sep 03, 2023
ObaIgwe1:


I have said it here... Havertz should not be starting match but he should be allowed to come from the bench... Arteta is putting him under pressure... Cos he wants Harvez to blow at all cost.

See Rice, we don't need many explanation to know someone is good. If you are good we should see it within 2 to 4 matches. Rice deserve his price... But Havertz...
Absolutely...

When epistles and explanations and even analytical eyes is needed to know if a player is good, Just know for most part, he's not.

I just hope Arteta benches him but it seemed as if Arteta have sworn he'll never do such.
Me, I can partly live with that as long as we get our back 4 intact instead of seeing Gabu on the bench and Partey in RB. Last 3 Matches was just very very annoying for me.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:50pm On Sep 03, 2023
Fkforyou:
Special shout to Gabu!

His quick thinking made Genacho to be on offside position.

That was absolutely brilliant.

He also did well, marking that Holjlund.

The way Kai plays you can see he is mentally weak and lacks confidence. That penalty self, if it was another player, they won’t hesitate to try and score, but look at what happened, we missed the chance and missed the penalty opportunity.

I keep asking, why is Arteta lenient on Hervertz, but ruthless with Awilo and Pepe when all of them are in the same category?
Did any of them cost 65m?
What were suffering with Havertz under Arteta is exactly what Man u is suffering with Anthony under Ten Haag. Both must play their money and trust finish grin

But aside his performances, it's his weak mentality that's irking me. He's just shying away from all attacking midfielder responsibilities and looking for the safe and unambituous way

They compare him with Ozil in terms of demeanor but hardly you'll see Ozil shy away from responsibilities
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 10:58pm On Sep 03, 2023
The only thing Harvetz in his favour is time.
Pepe , Ceballos no flop like this.

Vieira is coming good.

We can give Harvetz time but he should not start hr should play from the bench...in lesser quality opposition
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:01pm On Sep 03, 2023
Fkforyou:
Special shout to Gabu!

His quick thinking made Genacho to be on offside position.

That was absolutely brilliant.

He also did well, marking that Holjlund.


The way Kai plays you can see he is mentally weak and lacks confidence. That penalty self, if it was another player, they won’t hesitate to try and score, but look at what happened, we missed the chance and missed the penalty opportunity.

I keep asking, why is Arteta lenient on Hervertz, but ruthless with Awilo and Pepe when all of them are in the same category?

CC Kokane angry
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:22pm On Sep 03, 2023
Lush100:
The only thing Harvetz in his favour is time.
Pepe , Ceballos no flop like this.

Vieira is coming good.

We can give Harvetz time but he should not start hr should play from the bench...in lesser quality opposition
I don't think Ceballos was even a flop here. His first loan stint was good while his second was somehow mixed.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Onkoolos: 11:27pm On Sep 03, 2023
U guys use Ojoro!!! Gernacho goal wasn't offside. We will meet at Old Trafford. Enjoy your winning while it last. By nextweek u are gonna return to your default mode. It shall never be well with var and antony taylor undecided undecided undecided
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:18am On Sep 04, 2023
Onkoolos:
U guys use Ojoro!!! Gernacho goal wasn't offside. We will meet at Old Trafford. Enjoy your winning while it last. By nextweek u are gonna return to your default mode. It shall never be well with var and antony taylor undecided undecided undecided

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 1:30am On Sep 04, 2023
Big shout out to Nelson, man came in with a sense of urgency. He was attacking every blade of grass in front of him with intention, forcing United to remain deep. He has carried on from where he stopped last season and I hope to see him get more minutes in Cup competitions.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 1:55am On Sep 04, 2023
See how Arteta kept defending Havertz after all the obvious mistakes and how Ten Hag threw Sancho under the bus. The guy was forced to come out and openly defend himself
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by ObaIgwe1: 2:00am On Sep 04, 2023
And from this angle one can see how obvious the offside is and the brilliant effort of Gabu causing it.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:08am On Sep 04, 2023
ObaIgwe1:
And from this angle one can see how obvious the offside is and the brilliant effort of Gabu causing it.

Excellent sense of positional awareness by Gabu saved that situation, otherwise Gbanacho was clear because it happened so fast.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 3:19am On Sep 04, 2023
ObaIgwe1:
See how Arteta kept defending Havertz after all the obvious mistakes and how Ten Hag threw Sancho under the bus. The guy was forced to come out and openly defend himself

On one hand I can understand why he is doing this, considering Havertz is a new signing that is struggling. However, on the other hand, he is hypocritical, because he did not hesitate to throw Peperempe under the bus during press conferences.

Once again, this is Arteta being stubborn about something that is obviously not working because it is his signing and his ego. Forcing Havertz on the team and disrupting our tactics and chances of winning games is pitching Havertz against the fans which will do more damage to his confidence.

If you ask me, I suggest that Havertz be re-integrated slowly into the team from the bench. This team plays high intensity with fluid movement going forward and Havertz is doing the opposite right now.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:26am On Sep 04, 2023
Lush100:
The only thing Harvetz in his favour is time.
Pepe , Ceballos no flop like this.

Vieira is coming good.

We can give Harvetz time but he should not start hr should play from the bench...in lesser quality opposition
Ceballos didn’t flop
He was a loan player, players like Kim kardasian and Dennis Suarez flopped
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:29am On Sep 04, 2023
ObaIgwe1:
And from this angle one can see how obvious the offside is and the brilliant effort of Gabu causing it.
Var and ref have been terrible this season and they have to get it right, remember our match against brentford last season too when the var operator forget to draw lines
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:34am On Sep 04, 2023
Roland17:
Big shout out to Nelson, man came in with a sense of urgency. He was attacking every blade of grass in front of him with intention, forcing United to remain deep. He has carried on from where he stopped last season and I hope to see him get more minutes in Cup competitions.
He no they calm down jare
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:46am On Sep 04, 2023
Onkoolos:
U guys use Ojoro!!! Gernacho goal wasn't offside. We will meet at Old Trafford. Enjoy your winning while it last. By nextweek u are gonna return to your default mode. It shall never be well with var and antony taylor undecided undecided undecided
Garnacho was off. You are arguing because you are not intune with the new offside rule that was introduced just before season started.

Now offside is decided by the legs and not the entire body. That is why Gabriel slant position is considered a genius act.

Again, that Kai penalty should have stood because there was a second clip on his knee that the camera didn't pick and Taylor was too hasty to cancel his initial decision.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:48am On Sep 04, 2023
ObaIgwe1:
And from this angle one can see how obvious the offside is and the brilliant effort of Gabu causing it.
Exactly. People are looking at the head instead of the knee.

That was brilliant thinking by Gabu
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:49am On Sep 04, 2023
Roland17:


Excellent sense of positional awareness by Gabu saved that situation, otherwise Gbanacho was clear because it happened so fast.
Exactly 💯
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:53am On Sep 04, 2023
Roland17:


On one hand I can understand why he is doing this, considering Havertz is a new signing that is struggling. However, on the other hand, he is hypocritical, because he did not hesitate to throw Peperempe under the bus during press conferences.

Once again, this is Arteta being stubborn about something that is obviously not working because it is his signing and his ego. Forcing Havertz on the team and disrupting our tactics and chances of winning games is pitching Havertz against the fans which will do more damage to his confidence.

If you ask me, I suggest that Havertz be re-integrated slowly into the team from the bench. This team plays high intensity with fluid movement going forward and Havertz is doing the opposite right now.
I totally agree. The boy lacks confidence at all. Arteta would only damage him more by starting him in games. He needs to drop him for a game or two and allow him integrate slowly. Too bad we are losing a player of his quality due to poor handling.

That said, we should not think of Vieira as the next option because he is not good defending in the middle. The only other option we have now is ESR.

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