jaephoenix:

Wtf is this nigga on?!
The Bible is littered with verses where its literally clearly written "….. and thus sayeth the Lord… "
And many of those verses were instructions and punishments meted by the all so loving god.

Besides your bible also said in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (New International Version)
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
Its clearly written there 'All' not some, or few but all
See dude, I suggest you actually sit down and read this your Bible once
Shalom

SIRTee15:


Show me where a bible author said he was writing from God verbatim.
So where Paul said this are his own words and not the Lord....is that word of God too?
Go and learn about word of God, rhema and logos.
Then u can come back here to discuss what is the scripture.

jaephoenix:

Lol. This nigga. Obviously you haven't read this Bible cos if you did, you'd know its filled with bullshit.
One of the regular defenses chrissies put up when you confront them with the buybull is they say 'if you read the bible to look for errors, you'll find errors' and I'm like 'so you knew there were some mind-boggling cock-ups in that buybull but you still decide to base your whole life and still argue on it? '

jaephoenix:

Lol. This nigga. Obviously you haven't read this Bible cos if you did, you'd know its filled with bullshit.
One of the regular defenses chrissies put up when you confront them with the buybull is they say 'if you read the bible to look for errors, you'll find errors' and I'm like 'so you knew there were some mind-boggling cock-ups in that buybull but you still decide to base your whole life and still argue on it? '

Caveatemptor:



To people like you,all you aim for is to according to you,"Bury you just like I did....."
I am not interested in that but to point out facts and the folly of your thought process when you decide to suspend rationality and assume the emotional toga of faith.

The point is that the bible is an amalgamation of disjointed plagiarised myths cobbled together by men/scribes and not the words of an omniscient deity. These books were cobbled together in a haphazard way by the Romans (who had adopted Christianity as a state religion) and the Catholic Church at certain Christian Council meetings where doctrines were adopted.
Doctrines that did not meet the agenda of the Roman government and the Catholic priests were jettisoned, while those that matched the agenda were adopted as canonical. That is why the bible is packed full of apparent contradictory statements and philosophy. Once you understand this simple fact the problem of contradiction in the Bible is clearly understandable.

And a subtle reminder,you did not bury anyone on any thread. Your problem is once people refused to see things from your jaundiced viewpoint,you resorted to abuse and everyone just vacated the thread for you,so as to avoid descending to the level you wanted them to descend to-the mud.

SIRTee15:


Your point remain inconsequential if u cannot back it up with evidence.
And for a man u talk too much without any real substance.
Provide evidence about your claim, that's what I'm interested in.
U claim the Romans produced the bible, provide evidence. Just don't come here talking conspiracy theory.
What are this doctrines, who believed in them, when were they written, did the early Christians in the 1st century AD knew about this doctrines.
What were in the books that were rejected. What doctrines do they hold that made the Romans reject them.
Do we still have the books now, can we have a look to know what the controversy is all about.
Was there a bible b4 the Roman compiled one. What were the contents on the previous bible.
What about the dead sea scrolls, the Didache, the ketef hinnon scrolls, the tanakh, the Samaritan Pentateuch? Were they compiled by the Romans too? If yes, when?

Guy think like a scholar and talk like one. Not all these Roman wrote the bible and gave it to the pope to read out to Christians kind of talk. Leave that to kindergarten atheist.

Provide evidence...let's examine it. That's all I'm asking for.

As regards my previous posts. It's obvious u never went through them.
Most times I have to abandon the debate because u atheist are simply obstinate to the truth even when it's slapping u in the face.
There was a time jaephoenix started mentioning my name up and down in all threads even when I didn't debate him just because he wanted to win at all cost. Ask him.

Caveatemptor:


I suggest you start your search from Marcion of Sinope. He was the first man/theologian to create a bible before the current council of Nicaea bible you are currently clutching on to.
The problem with Christians is your refusal to read and do research and in cases where you research your refusal to recognise the truth even if it slapped you in the face.
Your circular form of reasoning prevents you from accepting any truth contrary to" the truth in the Bible ".

For your information before the council of Nicaea, Marcion compiled and created his own bible and his own philosophy of religion in which there were two different gods. The evil wicked inferior demiurge god of the old testament and the loving superior god of the new testament and the father of Jesus.
The church elders and the Romans declared this man's bible heresy and his bible and books were destroyed and burned by the Roman government of the day and the current bible created with more books.
Read up. These things are all over the Internet if I am telling lies but the problem is you reason in a circular way. Any thing in your Roman created bible is true,no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
Good luck.

Caveatemptor:

Mad Max you are a fraud!!!
And a DISGRACE to Christians!!!

MaxInDHouse:




I will be really glad if you can find anyone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY!

englishmart:
Their accounts aren't the same. Or didn't they see the same thing?

Caveatemptor:

Wtf are you on about?
What I posted are facts that can be verified. Did Marcion of Sinope exist or not?
Did Marcion of Sinope create a canonical bible before the Romans and the Catholic Church declared it heresy, burned the books and banished Marcion before recreating the CURRENT bible. Read up. These facts are there for your enlightenment and information.

Caveatemptor:

Mad Max you are a fraud!!!
And a DISGRACE to Christians!!!

MaxInDHouse:


What concerns me with your headache?

Ọmọ you said about me:



So my concern is when you will find someone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY at least for me to know how those who are like a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY does things!

Caveatemptor:

I repeat, You are a fraud. I haven't changed my mind.

MaxInDHouse:


I'm not asking you to change your mind but just try to show me the authentic Christians at least to compare and contrast.
Thanks!

jaephoenix:


Obviously you haven't taken time to read your Bible. But that is all common theme amongst theists. They rant and rave about their books but haven’t taken out time to read them.
So I'll indulge you one more time. So here goes….


These are the most relevant verses

Verse Concepts

Caveatemptor:

I have posted the facts. It is left for you to check the facts if you want to or you may choose to bury your head in the sand like an ostrich as a typical Christian. The choice is yours but the truth is the truth.

Caveatemptor:


I suggest you start your search from Marcion of Sinope. He was the first man/theologian to create a bible before the current council of Nicaea bible you are currently clutching on to.
The problem with Christians is your refusal to read and do research and in cases where you research your refusal to recognise the truth even if it slapped you in the face.
Your circular form of reasoning prevents you from accepting any truth contrary to" the truth in the Bible ".

For your information before the council of Nicaea, Marcion compiled and created his own bible and his own philosophy of religion in which there were two different gods. The evil wicked inferior demiurge god of the old testament and the loving superior god of the new testament and the father of Jesus.
The church elders and the Romans declared this man's bible heresy and his bible and books were destroyed and burned by the Roman government of the day and the current bible created with more books.
Read up. These things are all over the Internet if I am telling lies but the problem is you reason in a circular way. Any thing in your Roman created bible is true,no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
Good luck.

jaephoenix:

And the inspirator cannot inspire them uniformly knowing the book may confuse future generations?

Caveatemptor:


I suggest you start your search from Marcion of Sinope. He was the first man/theologian to create a bible before the current council of Nicaea bible you are currently clutching on to.
The problem with Christians is your refusal to read and do research and in cases where you research your refusal to recognise the truth even if it slapped you in the face.
Your circular form of reasoning prevents you from accepting any truth contrary to" the truth in the Bible ".

For your information before the council of Nicaea, Marcion compiled and created his own bible and his own philosophy of religion in which there were two different gods. The evil wicked inferior demiurge god of the old testament and the loving superior god of the new testament and the father of Jesus.
The church elders and the Romans declared this man's bible heresy and his bible and books were destroyed and burned by the Roman government of the day and the current bible created with more books.
Read up. These things are all over the Internet if I am telling lies but the problem is you reason in a circular way. Any thing in your Roman created bible is true,no matter how ludicrous it sounds.
Good luck.

Dtruthspeaker:


At least it is not Marcion who wrote the bible. Like jws he just gave it his own twisted understanding (philosophy).

And common sense even tells you that Marcion was full of shit and lack of understanding for his so called "loving superior god" did not do anything superior the so called new testament.

So clearly, he had a crooked understanding and therefore his works failed for it is clearly written "A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall never be moved"

And God is righteous from the old till forever thus why the whole world sees the kjv standing imovable.

So it is not the Romans who created the bible but some righteous man who God gave wisdom and understanding just like the disciples to decode and complile His messages creating it exactly how God wanted it to be for God does not give His kingdom to everybody. Mathew 13:11

So anyone who does not understand the bible should already know that he is cut off from God and has a part in the fire in which Satan and his people are cast into.

SIRTee15:


I've debated u b4 and we both know how it ended.
In case u forgotten, u became dazed from persistent facts and inability to defend foolishness.
U ended up confusing me with someone else and lying to save face.

U called bible foolishness but u believe a concept that says a young innocent baby girl who is destined to end up a prostitute cannot do anything about it no matter how hard she tries.

So if that girl goes to a good school, raise in a lovely home, crime free neighbourhood, has good family values will still end up in brothel because it was her destiny to become a prostitute.

How above makes sense to a normal human being is beyond me
Even Muslims that has predestination written in their book are beginning to redefine it because they know it makes no sense.

I would rather embrace foolishness in the bible than believe in a stupid idea that I can't do anything about my future because it's already written.

I would rather believe in a book that tells me I can change my future for good just in the case of jabez; than believe a concept that claims the written past will always decide the future.

No wonder the best social value ever known to mankind is the Judeo-Christian value system.

SIRTee15:


Your point remain inconsequential if u cannot back it up with evidence.
And for a man u talk too much without any real substance.
Provide evidence about your claim, that's what I'm interested in.
U claim the Romans produced the bible, provide evidence. Just don't come here talking conspiracy theory.
What are this doctrines, who believed in them, when were they written, did the early Christians in the 1st century AD knew about this doctrines.
What were in the books that were rejected. What doctrines do they hold that made the Romans reject them.
Do we still have the books now, can we have a look to know what the controversy is all about.
Was there a bible b4 the Roman compiled one. What were the contents on the previous bible.
What about the dead sea scrolls, the Didache, the ketef hinnon scrolls, the tanakh, the Samaritan Pentateuch? Were they compiled by the Romans too? If yes, when?

Guy think like a scholar and talk like one. Not all these Roman wrote the bible and gave it to the pope to read out to Christians kind of talk. Leave that to kindergarten atheist.

Provide evidence...let's examine it. That's all I'm asking for.

As regards my previous posts. It's obvious u never went through them.
Most times I have to abandon the debate because u atheist are simply obstinate to the truth even when it's slapping u in the face.
There was a time jaephoenix started mentioning my name up and down in all threads even when I didn't debate him just because he wanted to win at all cost. Ask him.

MaxInDHouse:




I will be really glad if you can find anyone who is a PRIDE to CHRISTIANITY!

SIRTee15:


Do u understand my question at all. Did I ask u for where God spoke in the bible or where the bible writers claimed they heard from God directly when they wrote down the bible...God dictated and we wrote it down.

So all those verse you copy and pasted, do u mean the authors wrote them down same time God was declaring those words ....is that what u saying.
If that's not the case then I don't understand the essence of your copy and paste.

Now let me teach u. The words written in bible are classified into 3 distinct references: The Word of God, the Words of God's Prophet and the Words of Men

It's not only the word of God that's in the bible. So the bible cannot be a dictation from God because it's not just his words that's in the book.

Do u get it now!!!

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you do things uniformly? Did you not also hear that the bible is written so that devils are cut off?

jaephoenix:

PLEASE SHUT IT!
WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY JW BULLSHIT.
THANK YOU

MaxInDHouse:

Wèrè!
Are you the one i mentioned?

jaephoenix:

He has already told you to take a hike. So stop disturbing us with child mol@sters, rapists and gays

MaxInDHouse:

Come on shut up there!
The guy quoted me several times that's why i mentioned him too so face front!

jaephoenix:

He's called you a fraud. Rest nah

jaephoenix:

How is this crap related to my point?

Caveatemptor:

You have started engaging in your circular way of thinking that everything in the Bible is good. It's your right as an adherent to reason so. I grant you that however the bolded statement is where I disagree with you.
Please can you empirically prove this your bolded statement?
Can you prove the existence of this your incinerator and where is it based? Is this fire in the sky or deep in the bowels of the earth? Or is this fire in outer space?
I wish to be enlightened.