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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Nelidee(m): 9:36am On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:




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Yes, sing very well. grin

Its a thing of joy to know that the evil your organisation has tried to keep secret for decades is being brought to the public now. cheesy

Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53am On Sep 15, 2023
Nelidee:

Yes, sing very well. grin
Its a thing of joy to know that the evil your organisation has tried to keep secret for decades is being brought to the public now.


Nelidee:
You can hide evil from men as long as you want but one day all that is hidden will be made public for all to see..... Don't you think so MaxInDhouse ?

Ọmọ i love the highlighted die!

So wait for all can SEE in their neighbourhood not fabricated stories from afar! wink

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by DoWhatThouWilt: 9:54am On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Thank God i'm not an atheist!



Thanks to JEHOVAH that i'm not braindead like atheists; cheesy

Please help me Thank Jehovah God too for exposing this evil organisation that tried to hide their history of child abuse and pedophilia.

Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:57am On Sep 15, 2023
DoWhatThouWilt:

Please help me Thank Jehovah God too for exposing this evil organisation that tried to hide their history of child abuse and pedophilia.

MaxInDHouse:

How can someone tell me that doves in some places have become predators while doves in my own neighbourhood are harmless then i will immediately swallow it hook line and sinker that all doves are predators? cheesy

Thanks to JEHOVAH that i'm not as braindead as atheists! cheesy

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Nelidee(m): 10:01am On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:





Ọmọ i love the highlighted die!

So wait for all can SEE in their neighbourhood not fabricated stories from afar! wink

grin cheesy :

Have you seen this fabricated story..



Let me leave a link for people who are interested in your organisation.. It will encourage them to join since your organisation abuses kids.

https://www.kpbs.org/news/midday-edition/2016/12/12/how-jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-hide-child-abuse-se
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by DoWhatThouWilt: 10:05am On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:




Thanks to JEHOVAH that i'm not as braindead as atheists! cheesy


Please thank him for exposing Jehovah's witnesses same way he exposed the people below grin

Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Aemmyjah(m): 10:11am On Sep 15, 2023
MaxInDHouse:




Thanks to JEHOVAH that i'm not as braindead as atheists! cheesy


All these child abuse claims are lies
The biggest way today to publicly embarrass a person or organization is to accuse them as guilty of charges like child abuse or any sexual abuse...
Just one of their slander... We are free with our children and I can entrust my children to stay with a brother or sister even more than my relatives... Yet, they say our organization is infested with child abusers

They say we sell books
They say Our GB members are businessmen with huge shares
They say we are selling our kingdom halls to make money
They say We are desperately begging people to join us cos our numbers are declining
They say we don't care for our young and allow them to die when issue of blood arises... They deliberately ignore that in the developed world, the use of blood in surgeries is now frowned at and many who don't even believe in God or heard what the Bible says regarding blood don't accept blood in medical care cos of the risks associated with it... So-called Christians claiming to follow the Bible will point accusing fingers... They deliberately ignore that there's alternative to blood surgeries which is more cheaper, risk effective... They deliberately ignore that use of blood is even 50-50... You may die and you may live but there are risks associated

Atheists are envious that one group is beating their intelligence... Religious people too are envious too. Pharisees, sadducees and non worshippers collabo to throw accusations they can't prove

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by DoWhatThouWilt: 10:28am On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:


All these child abuse claims are lies



They are lies when it is your organisation but facts when it is the Catholics or any other church....right?

Dont worry, MaxInDHouse will be one of the elders to call you a liar when your child gets molested by a member in your congregation. cheesy
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Aemmyjah(m): 10:56am On Sep 15, 2023
DoWhatThouWilt:




They are lies when it is your organisation but facts when it is the Catholics or any other church....right?

Dont worry, MaxInDHouse will be one of the elders to call you a liar when your child gets molested by a member in your congregation. cheesy

And you agree with those who pick up this stories and conclude that we abuse children right?
I don't want to mention any other religion
Child abuse is an epidemic

If in a family of 15, 1 of them is caught stealing. What is the lie? That the family is guilty of theft
The lie is that we approve of such
Such person is removed and when he repents, he's not going to receive any privilege and other parents will be warned to be careful with such person around their children...

Again, this organization, is where our children are safe... We are not perfect
In the first century, it seems the Christians were overlooking the case of a man sleeping with his father's wife. Opposers will say that the entire religion support incest.

Does anyone guilty of child abuse remain in the congregation? No
When we disfellowship such ones, opposers say it is unloving
Unrepentant ones come out to start saying nonsense and causing trouble, even making up his own false stories
And we don't stop anyone from reporting to the authorities whether he acknowledge it or not

'Tens of thousands of sexual abuse' grin grin grin
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Abifarin16: 11:05am On Sep 15, 2023
englishmart:
It clearly states 40,000 stalls for horses. Which means the stalls are 40,000, and may be empty. When I say "40,000 bags for rice. Doesnt it mean that there are 40k bags available for rice bagging?


Yes and also Why would you have 40k bag of Rice without the intention or capacity to fill em' all up.
He was a king he built the stalls because tributes where paid to him by other kings. He built those number of stalls based on the number of horses that he has received.

Nothing is confusing here.
The number of men is however consistent.
Don't forget that he predecessors David fought lots of battles while he was alive and was entitled to a portion of the lot that was brought in.
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by DoWhatThouWilt: 11:07am On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:
Tens of thousands of sexual abuse' grin grin grin

I know right, its unbelievable that an organisation that calls itself Christian will harm more children and kids than an atheist that doesn't believe in God.

But that's the sad truth. grin




Imagine the ones that are afraid to speak up in your congregation because you have been ordered not to report your fellow brother to the police even if he rapes your child. smiley
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by Aemmyjah(m): 11:29am On Sep 15, 2023
DoWhatThouWilt:


I know right, its unbelievable that an organisation that calls itself Christian will harm more children and kids than an atheist that doesn't believe in God.

But that's the sad truth. grin




Imagine the ones that are afraid to speak up in your congregation because you have been ordered not to report your fellow brother to the police even if he rapes your child. smiley





Only a fool like you will believe both image caption and highlighted
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:44pm On Sep 15, 2023
DoWhatThouWilt:

Please thank him for exposing Jehovah's witnesses same way he exposed the people below grin

Does these stories stop billions from attending the Mass with Catholics?
Ọmọ use your brain, it's what people see in their neighbourhood that really matters not what you fabricate! wink

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:45pm On Sep 15, 2023
Aemmyjah:


All these child abuse claims are lies
The biggest way today to publicly embarrass a person or organization is to accuse them as guilty of charges like child abuse or any sexual abuse...
Just one of their slander... We are free with our children and I can entrust my children to stay with a brother or sister even more than my relatives... Yet, they say our organization is infested with child abusers

They say we sell books
They say Our GB members are businessmen with huge shares
They say we are selling our kingdom halls to make money
They say We are desperately begging people to join us cos our numbers are declining
They say we don't care for our young and allow them to die when issue of blood arises... They deliberately ignore that in the developed world, the use of blood in surgeries is now frowned at and many who don't even believe in God or heard what the Bible says regarding blood don't accept blood in medical care cos of the risks associated with it... So-called Christians claiming to follow the Bible will point accusing fingers... They deliberately ignore that there's alternative to blood surgeries which is more cheaper, risk effective... They deliberately ignore that use of blood is even 50-50... You may die and you may live but there are risks associated

Atheists are envious that one group is beating their intelligence... Religious people too are envious too. Pharisees, sadducees and non worshippers collabo to throw accusations they can't prove

When God's organization has performed more than atheists could imagine they resort to cheap blackmail! cheesy

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by xproducer: 8:18pm On Sep 17, 2023
jaephoenix:

So was the Bible divinely inspired?

++++++++

Without question, yes... mankind does not write like this... only GOD declares centuries prior (of the arrival of the Lord YESHUA, MESSIAH HIMSELF, of Persian king Cyrus and his part in history, other empires past and their end) and decades before with specificity (destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70, the reformation and return of the nation of Israel to their given homeland, etc).

In the Holy Bible the evidence of humankinds' shortcomings are apparent, but certainly more evident is GOD's purpose, and power and infinite wisdom!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

David’s Last Words:
"Now these are the last words of David. Thus says David the son of Jesse; Thus says the man raised up on high, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:1-3
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:02am On Sep 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Come on shut up there! cheesy
The guy quoted me several times that's why i mentioned him too so face front! cheesy
Who quoted u?
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:03am On Sep 18, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

There can't be FRAUD without AUTHENTIC that's what made both of you fools.

If i am fraud in Christianity let him present the authentic nah! cheesy
A fraud in this means you're a liar
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 7:10am On Sep 18, 2023
SIRTee15:


Show me where I said Yahweh said nothing in the bible.
I've always known English language comprehension is a big problem for u.
A primary school pupil should decipher my first post on the matter.
This is what you said, Mr. Liar

I already defined to u what exactly is the word of God.
So I don't understand your point above.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE MESSAGE not the letter.
U should learn the classification of exegesis in the bible. Words are men in the bible are not expressive and not inspired.

The biblical writer never thought or said they were writing God’s words verbatim . Instead, they were writing what they knew, what they heard, what they experienced about God.

The hard copy bible is a collection of words about God, not a collection of God’s words to us.

The message in the hard copy bible is the word of God and this is what is inspired by the holy spirit. That is what should not be added or removed.

Show me where a bible author said he was writing from God verbatim.
So where Paul said this are his own words and not the Lord....is that word of God too?

Go and learn about word of God, rhema and logos.
Then u can come back here to discuss what is the scripture.

From The above highlighted words, you infer there are no verbatim words from Yahweh, Mr. Lie Lie.
In case you are so illiterate u don't know what verbatim means, it means word for word. And the verses I quoted showed the words in quote, meaning they were verbatim.
Take your illiteracy outside here please
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

Who quoted u?
Caveatemptor! smiley
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

A fraud in this means you're a liar
Fool!

There can never be a liar without the truth sayer so present the truth sayer so we can compare and contrast with the liar. cheesy
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by SIRTee15: 8:19am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:

This is what you said, Mr. Liar

I already defined to u what exactly is the word of God.
So I don't understand your point above.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE MESSAGE not the letter.
U should learn the classification of exegesis in the bible. Words are men in the bible are not expressive and not inspired.

The biblical writer never thought or said they were writing God’s words verbatim . Instead, they were writing what they knew, what they heard, what they experienced about God.

The hard copy bible is a collection of words about God, not a collection of God’s words to us.

The message in the hard copy bible is the word of God and this is what is inspired by the holy spirit. That is what should not be added or removed.

Show me where a bible author said he was writing from God verbatim.
So where Paul said this are his own words and not the Lord....is that word of God too?

Go and learn about word of God, rhema and logos.
Then u can come back here to discuss what is the scripture.

From The above highlighted words, you infer there are no verbatim words from Yahweh, Mr. Lie Lie.
In case you are so illiterate u don't know what verbatim means, it means word for word. And the verses I quoted showed the words in quote, meaning they were verbatim.
Take your illiteracy outside here please


Not surprised.
Not only do u struggle with English comprehension but also have issue with amnesia.
That's why debating with u is waste of time, u will forget what u previously said and come up with new claims.
So much for Wannabe atheist.

Below was my first post on the subject matter b4 u jumped in with your lack of English comprehension.

What does dictated verbatim mean? If u understood this, there would have been no need for further ado.
Stark illiterate.

But of course u don't and Next was your 1st response on my quote, where u claimed the bible is the complete word of God.

Now that I've corrected and enlightened you, next is to twist mouth.

Very unstable fellow with an ignorant mind.

Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by SIRTee15: 8:31am On Sep 18, 2023
jaephoenix:


My subsequent posts on the matter was a spin off from my initial write up where I assumed people already understood the bone of contention is to clarify if the scribes/prophets were writing dictated words or not.

Didn't know I was dealing with a numb skull dumb with big comprehension issue.
Olodo.
Next time if u want to quote me, ensure u understand my message clearly. Don't rub your illiteracy on us here.
U can get a secondary school kid to help u out.
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:40pm On Sep 20, 2023
SIRTee15:


1. U were definitely overwhelmed. I remember I took on 3 of u atheists on that thread and didn't misquote anyone. So don't blame it on multitasking, u are not the only one doing that
U were definitely punched so bad on that thread u didn't know who was who anymore.
2. Your questions were all answered. You were just too coward and obstinate to see it. I remember one of your atheist colleague was humiliated on that thread so bad he almost cried.
Funny enough u didn't even offer to help him with counter evidence. U abandoned him to continue wallowing in his dose of disgrace. That shows how coward u are.
3. U are simply a liar. U came up with evidence of immune response in cancer therapy. I asked u if u have heard of immunotherapy, u admitted u don't know much about it.
Go back and read immunotherapy, that explain the evidence u brought up.
FYI BCG is used in the treatment of bladder cancer.
Compare above with your last evidence and see the similarity.
Your are not in any position to determine who is a medical personnel. Your own credentials are in doubt. Are u not they guy who didn't know the essence of biopsy in cancer management.
4. It obvious u had a terrible upbringing. Constant use of vulgar words as an adult is as a result of childhood abuse. What u suffering from now is what's called ACE.
5. Not surprise with your warp definition of destiny.
Since u believe a child who will become a prostitute is already determined at birth.
Such a depraved soul cannot come up with something better.
1. Lol. It was my thread and I'm obligated to be more active. The other atheist was Maynmann and he showed you pepper. There were only 2 of us. I know u can't count. And you don't even know what I was doing while chatting with you, so you have no point. For all you know, I was driving and distracted. But to your illiterate mind, any misquote means submission.
2. No you didn't answer my questions. I asked you why spontaneous remission occurs in anyone and not just christians. But you kept on dodging that question. Lol, which atheist was at the point of crying? Please name him or her, Mr. Lienus. If you were talking of Maynmann, then you're wrong. He kicked your ass. You kept on dodging questions. You need to stop lying.
3. Lol. Please explain how I didn’t know the essence of biopsy in a lump
4. You call my convo vulgar? No p
5. I know u are very empty. And your knowledge of science is derived from your pastor. Below is the definition of destiny derived from 2 world known dictionaries, Merriam Webster(American) and Cambridge(British)
As you can see they all denote events beyond control, which cannot be changed or predetermined
Olodo

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Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


This thread is about one of what you people call contradictions and as you have seen, it is explained. And the contradictions are not even bad. Just a proof that devils will reveal themselves by their talks.

Secondly, the bible is the first to condemn slavery and order the release of slaves.

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible

Thirdly, it condemned all the evils you mentioned, rapist, incest, liars and entire evil nations were punished, so nothing wrong here.


1. No, the contradiction was not explained. You just said gibberish which was not an explanation
2. The bible condoned and allowed slavery
Colossians 3:22

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord


Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.

3. Yahweh specifically asked people or allowed incests, rapes, murders, genocides, infanticides etc
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
Caveatemptor:


Keep burying your head like an ostrich as usual.
The problem I always have with Christians is refusal to see errors in the Bible and rationality explain these errors. You guys would rather turn a blind eye to all the contradictions and evil teaching in the Bible and attempt to explain it away in a circular kind of way.
See no evil and hear no evil.

Once again I repeat the bible does not condemn slavery and promotes misogyny, genocide, human sacrifice, rape,mass murder,lies,incest,destruction of entire civilisations amongst other evil deeds. That is why so many pastors and religious leaders are able to engage in paedophilia and sexual abuse of their female members.

Look,I know it is hard for you to accept these things but deep down in your heart you know all what I wrote is true. However I don't want to derail this thread so I challenge you to open your own thread and tag me so we can quote Bible passages and critically examine the bible.
I opened such a thread but all they gave was gibberish
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

How many have you caught in your neighbourhood? smiley
Have you caught a Nigerian politician stealing money?
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:51pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Bring picture of JW in your neighbourhood who was molesting a child.
Thanks in advance! smiley
Even your jw.org corroborated those stories that you guys are rapists, gays etc. What again do you wanna deny? Someone gave you a screenshots of their publications weeks ago but you have refused to say anything about it. Even Aemmyjah kept quiet.
Hypocrites!
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Each month i donate thousands to God's organization and i will continue to do more! wink
Please continue. Jehovah would bless you as you donate towards settlement of child abuse cases(aka hush money) cheesy
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:57pm On Sep 20, 2023
Nelidee:


Question: Why are there so many abusers in your organisation?

MaxInDHouse: I refuse to believe there are child rapists and abusers in my organisation because you have not shown me one from your neighborhood

Questions: But your organisation hides these cases and threaten members from reporting to the police, how can we hear about it in our neighborhood when your organisation tells raped victims to keep silent?

MaxInDHouse: Why are you pointing fingers at my Christian organisation for tolerating and hiding child abusers and molesters when you an atheist support depopulation?

undecided

Obviously there is something wrong somewhere in your brain.
He's a well known fruitcake here. Along with Aemmyjah and Janosky
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 3:59pm On Sep 20, 2023
Aemmyjah:


All these child abuse claims are lies
The biggest way today to publicly embarrass a person or organization is to accuse them as guilty of charges like child abuse or any sexual abuse...
Just one of their slander... We are free with our children and I can entrust my children to stay with a brother or sister even more than my relatives... Yet, they say our organization is infested with child abusers

They say we sell books
They say Our GB members are businessmen with huge shares
They say we are selling our kingdom halls to make money
They say We are desperately begging people to join us cos our numbers are declining
They say we don't care for our young and allow them to die when issue of blood arises... They deliberately ignore that in the developed world, the use of blood in surgeries is now frowned at and many who don't even believe in God or heard what the Bible says regarding blood don't accept blood in medical care cos of the risks associated with it... So-called Christians claiming to follow the Bible will point accusing fingers... They deliberately ignore that there's alternative to blood surgeries which is more cheaper, risk effective... They deliberately ignore that use of blood is even 50-50... You may die and you may live but there are risks associated

Atheists are envious that one group is beating their intelligence... Religious people too are envious too. Pharisees, sadducees and non worshippers collabo to throw accusations they can't prove
Lies abi?
But someone brought up a screenshot of a publication where your organization made a publication on their website jw.org stating that you have gays, rapists, molesters etc in your midst. Til now you and Nairaland resident fruitcake MadMax have gone mute on that. Idiot
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:02pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Does these stories stop billions from attending the Mass with Catholics?
Ọmọ use your brain, it's what people see in their neighbourhood that really matters not what you fabricate! wink
Unlike you guys, Catholics aren't denying the stories. But are not hiding them and also they are doing something about it. They also issued apologies. But u and Enemyjah has been denying it for years
Re: I Need Help To Understand These Conflicting Bible Verses. by jaephoenix(m): 4:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
xproducer:


++++++++

Without question, yes... mankind does not write like this... only GOD declares centuries prior (of the arrival of the Lord YESHUA, MESSIAH HIMSELF, of Persian king Cyrus and his part in history, other empires past and their end) and decades before with specificity (destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70, the reformation and return of the nation of Israel to their given homeland, etc).

In the Holy Bible the evidence of humankinds' shortcomings are apparent, but certainly more evident is GOD's purpose, and power and infinite wisdom!

"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21

David’s Last Words:
"Now these are the last words of David. Thus says David the son of Jesse; Thus says the man raised up on high, The anointed of the God of Jacob, And the sweet psalmist of Israel: "The Spirit of the Lord spoke by me, And His word was on my tongue. The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me: ‘He who rules over men must be just, Ruling in the fear of God." - 2 Samuel 23:1-3
Can you point out where the prophecies were made?

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