yemmit90:


Which economy are you talking about please? Is like some of you were still very small during his administration that made you think the hardship Nigerians are passing through started today.

The same OBJ that spent over 15 Trillions naira on electricity generation with nothing to show for it? The same Obj that the price of fuel triple during his time in power? How much were the price of goods and services before and after he left office? What is the quality of naira to dollar before and after he left office? Was he not the same man who remove history as subject from secondary school curriculum so that you won't remember his evil acts?

The problem of we youths of these days is that, we always think the past is better than today because we lack reading culture. The only difference between then and now is modernisation. Unlike today that majority of people would rather come to the cities and be jobless, alot of people back then stayed in their respective towns and villages and grow most of their foods by themselves. Their wants and needs are limited, and they were always satisfied with little they have. They have less reason to complain because most of them don't own cars or spent much on transportation. You hardly see youth lavishing away money in clubs like today. I could remember back then, almost all middle class and professionals own backyard gardens or farms where they grow basis stuffs for their family. How many people you can see doing that today.

Hummmmmmmm. You have got a valid point here as well. I like your thought pattern. Kudos

Nigeria is a failed project

Tinubu is a failure

Buhari was a failure

APc led by Gandollar is the devil's workshop

Obasanjo should just shut up his dirty mouth after contributing over 80%
of the problems we have in NIGERIAN DEMO=CRAZY today
with the corrupt foundation he laid in 1999

efe21:

Yes this is the sad reality but nothing can be done about it unless Nigeria is either restructured or disintegrated.

The unspoken truth is that Nigeria is truly not one nation but rather a parasitic contraction where regions prey on the natural resources of some other regions without developing the regions where these resources are taken from.

Nigeria is just a business venture for the elites (politicians) who have turned it to a generational enrichment scheme without care or regards for the wellbeing of the masses or the general development of the country at large.

Political restructuring?
The most annoying thing is that whenever the politicians of the two old southern regions asked for political restructuring, politicians of the old Northern region would tell the southerners to come to the National Assembly for political restructuring. These Northerners know full well that the National Assembly is unduly overpopulated by legislators from the old Northern region who would thwart every effort at political restructuring of Nigeria democratically.
These Northerners don't seem to understand that land mass or population figures is not used as criterion to create new federating units like states or regions, in a country formed by diverse regions.

obj you are a monumental disgrace,after squandering our billions for power ,no power.
He misruled for 8years no refinery,yet he has the dirty mouth to talk gibberish,because mostnigerians have fish brain not to remember to name and shame idiotic past leaders misdeeds
HE SHOULD SHUT THE FCCCCK UP,OLD FOOOL.

happney65:


You use your phone to use the internet today
Massive employment was caused by the telecommunications industry which was brought by Obasanjo himself for the first time in Nigeria

A minister of telecommunications under Abacha once said telephone isn't for the poor isn't it?

The only President that increased minimum wage thrice. The first 3500 in 1999. The Nigerian middle class grew massively under him

You can accuse him of being an election rigger and a dictator. But he did excellently well Economy wise.

Nobody,I repeat Nobody can or has done 1/3 of what he did ever since he left government in 2007

This is correct.

Obj and Prof Maurice Iwu rigged many elections.

No president and inec chairman has since broken d record of these duo.

Acekidc4:
Obasanjo is indirectly Calling himself a Failure cos all those things he mentioned happened during his Tenure too🤔 Pot calling Kettle black!! Shioor!!

after how many year of obj tenure? His tenure was a nursing democracy as it was called not now that our democracy is 24 years. I beg live above sentiment

onuman:



Political restructuring?
The most annoying thing is that whenever the politicians of the two old southern regions asked for political restructuring, politicians of the old Northern region would tell the southerners to come to the National Assembly for political restructuring. These Northerners know full well that the National Assembly is unduly overpopulated by legislators from the old Northern region who would thwart every effort at political restructuring of Nigeria democratically.
These Northerners don't seem to understand that land mass or population figures is not used as criterion to create new federating units like states or regions, in a country formed by diverse regions.

I am afraid to state that the Northerners will never understand this, or to put it rightly; they will pretend not to understand this because it favour them and keeps them in a stronger position politically.

My annoyance really is that they (northerners) too are suffering it because the bad economy is affecting everyone as a whole, so what is the point of their innate nepotism? When in the world of Nigerian politics; the politicians stick together as one milking the national treasury once sworn into offices forgetting their tribal difference until the end of their administration and now time for elections again.

So the puns here are the masses mostly the uneducated ones that can easily be bought with crumbs and used as agents to stir up tribal bigotry and all sort of mischievous vices.

Look at the person who is talking. Can he please tell us what he did in lifting people out of unemployment during his tenure .Bokoharam started during his tenure. Kudos to Tinubu who has completely flushed Bokoharam out of the North East.
Obj should keep quiet.He is nobody in this government. He should que behind obi in 2039

efe21:

Yes this is the sad reality but nothing can be done about it unless Nigeria is either restructured or disintegrated.

The unspoken truth is that Nigeria is truly not one nation but rather a parasitic contraction where regions prey on the natural resources of some other regions without developing the regions where these resources are taken from.

Nigeria is just a business venture for the elites (politicians) who have turned it to a generational enrichment scheme without care or regards for the wellbeing of the masses or the general development of the country at large.

Bro the blind followers are the cause ..Nigerians take too much rubbish ..they would rather fight with themselves online or offline than criticize the politician for the bad things they are doing m so many of them here on nairaland and in the neighborhood .. Fucktarda

Acekidc4:
Obasanjo is indirectly Calling himself a Failure cos all those things he mentioned happened during his Tenure too🤔 Pot calling Kettle black!! Shioor!!

Has Nigeria ever been ruled by any president without these issues?

I believe you baba

Acekidc4:
Obasanjo is indirectly Calling himself a Failure cos all those things he mentioned happened during his Tenure too🤔 Pot calling Kettle black!! Shioor!!

How you manage to be in all the thread in NL, baffles me, anyways that's the unemployment OBJ is talking about, you can be employed and be on the thread at the same time, even if you are the boss of yourself.

JagabanB:

U forgot to tell us how he crashed NITEL which was working along with MTEL because he wanted to use other networks as cash cow.
U forgot to tell us that he crashed our refineries, ALSCON, Steel company etc.
You forgot to tell us that he laid the foundation for póór democracy in this country today.
Whatever positive he did was well countered by a negative that's the story of leadership in Nigèria and he is a culprit.

In as much as I am not exonerating Obj, does it mean subsequent Presidents after him couldn't change the narratives? Yes, he was bad so what next?

Obasanjo is the greatest Nigerian of all time arguably. The people you are trying to educate do not have a life: let Nigeria fail, let them suffer, its not a big deal to them, as long as the criminal politicians like Tinubu that they worship is in power.

happney65:


Yeye, I will give you facts.

Tell me how did he crash Nitel? Was it even efficient before he came on board? Nitel or Mtel or whatever the fvck they called themselves simply went out of business because they couldn't keep up with the pace of the new entrants.

Obasanjo was a pure capitalist who knew government has no business being in business. And that is what he did effectively.

The Nitel then that was like current day Nepa,very inefficient and dumb. They simply went off the radar when they couldn't keep up with the new pace so how is that Obasanjo's fault?

And how did he crash our refineries please I want to know? Where? When? How? Obasanjo when he was leaving in 79,we had 4 functional refineries that he handed over to shagari. It was useless Buhari when he took over from shagari started the trajectory of our wobbling refineries. Obasanjo when he was about leaving sold off the dead refineries to Dangote and Otedola to do it as he discovered the government can't and won't be able to.

It was Yaradua that reversed the sale. Dangote said it at the commissing of his refinery himself .

What about Power?. Obasanjo has handed off generation, transmission and distribution too when he was leaving, Yaradua also cancelled it and here we are. He did it the same way he did telecommunications

Even infrastructure sef. The most busy federal road in Nigeria the Lagos Ibadan expressway that the Buhari administration are fixing was even constructed by him too in 79

His only mistake was he being a dictator and an election rigger. But talking about the Economy, Nobody,I repeat Nobody has surpassed him since 1999.

Periodt!

efe21:

I am afraid to state that the Northerners will never understand this, or to put it rightly; they will pretend not to understand this because it favour them and keeps them in a stronger position politically.

My annoyance really is that they (northerners) too are suffering it because the bad economy is affecting everyone as a whole, so what is the point of their innate nepotism? When in the world of Nigerian politics; the politicians stick together as one milking the national treasury once sworn into offices forgetting their tribal difference until the end of their administration and now time for elections again.

So the puns here are the masses mostly the uneducated ones that can easily be bought with crumbs and used as agents to stir up tribal bigotry and all sort of mischievous vices.

The skewed political structure throws up the likes of Muhammadu Buhari and Bola Tinubu as president in a country that has tens of thousands of more capable presidential materials. Northerners and southerners suffer from the inept leadership.

Apart from literally dictating who must win presidential election in Nigeria, Northerners also rake in more of the oil revenues from the Niger delta region through the 19 states and Abuja that Northern military dictators proliferated in the old Northern region between 1967-1996.
That's why Northerners object to political restructuring in a democratic way.

Jahwinaboy:
In as much as I am not exonerating Obj, does it mean subsequent Presidents after him couldn't change the narratives? Yes, he was bad so what next?

Obasanjo set up a National Political Reforms Conference when he was president to reform Nigeria's political structure and governance system that are at the root of Nigeria's failure.

Northern delegates allied with a few delegates from the
SW region to the conference and ended the conference when the two groups refused the minimal increase in the derivation money asked for by the SS and SE delegates for the oil producing areas.
Goodluck Jonathan set up a National CONFAB that ended with agreements. But like the Obasanjo's Reforms Conference, Jonathan also made the error of depending on the National Assembly to ratify the recommendations of the CONFAB. A sovereign national conference or dissolution of dysfunctional Nigeria is the only solution.

efe21:

Dem never born DSS well walahi.... DSS don baff.... DSS go end that day. OBJ is one of the powers in Nigeria you can't mess with..... Baba nah living ancestor of Nigeria himself.

Let me tell you something today. Nobody is greater than the government. If your utterances threatens the peace and existence of Nigeria, DSS may invite you for questioning. See, if Obasanjo is invited today, I can bodly tell you that yorubas will not support Obasanjo. Let's just leave it there.

This man sometime just talk in order for him to talk. His tenure laid corrupt foundation.
Different sector collapse under him

Obasanjo is the one who starting the making of ill-democracy between 1978 and 1979. He is the father of economic and moral decadence in Nigeria as well as economic and financial crimes. He was the one who first put Nigeria into a debt peonage of the W/Bank. Recall that Nigeria loaned money to UAE/ Dubai in 1974..... He looted the treasuries and terribly stifled the Gowon's 3rd Development that should have taken Nigeria to where Dubal/ UAE is now as far back as 1990. Ask him of Tin Can Island property he scuttled to give to himself..... The university system and entire education system he contrived to destroy in and to contest Chief Awolowo's 1978 campaign promise of FREE Education.... And the University system he shattered withde-ACU in 1976.... Or, the university student welfare programmes he disrupted terribly in 1978 leading ALI-must-go crisis, unemployment he causes all times in all sectors, the over 200 public companies of FGN he, and Atiku sold to themselves in a phantom PRIVATIZATION Programme at ridiculous prices almost amounting to stealing it. Or his design to bringing in de-industrializers and profligate BABANGIDA, ABACHA, et al in order to upturn Nigeria(ns), sow poverty, misery, unemployment, inflation, and insecurity serially as to have Nigeria(ns) as their private estate I.e. as owners of Nigeria. Just what his attempted 3rd term agenda was intended to seal having devised and contrived it cleverly earlier on.

Judging from above, OBASANJO is grower, slower, and father of poverty, inflation, uneployment, misery, ill-democracy, and insecurity alike. Nb.

happney65:


Yeye, I will give you facts.

Tell me how did he crash Nitel? Was it even efficient before he came on board? Nitel or Mtel or whatever the fvck they called themselves simply went out of business because they couldn't keep up with the pace of the new entrants.

Obasanjo was a pure capitalist who knew government has no business being in business. And that is what he did effectively.

The Nitel then that was like current day Nepa,very inefficient and dumb. They simply went off the radar when they couldn't keep up with the new pace so how is that Obasanjo's fault?

And how did he crash our refineries please I want to know? Where? When? How? Obasanjo when he was leaving in 79,we had 4 functional refineries that he handed over to shagari. It was useless Buhari when he took over from shagari started the trajectory of our wobbling refineries. Obasanjo when he was about leaving sold off the dead refineries to Dangote and Otedola to do it as he discovered the government can't and won't be able to.

It was Yaradua that reversed the sale. Dangote said it at the commissing of his refinery himself .

What about Power?. Obasanjo has handed off generation, transmission and distribution too when he was leaving, Yaradua also cancelled it and here we are. He did it the same way he did telecommunications

Even infrastructure sef. The most busy federal road in Nigeria the Lagos Ibadan expressway that the Buhari administration are fixing was even constructed by him too in 79

His only mistake was he being a dictator and an election rigger. But talking about the Economy, Nobody,I repeat Nobody has surpassed him since 1999.

Periodt!

You're very spot on.
But you will always see the so-called Yoruba-centric youths, vilify him while they make idols of Tinubu who played politics more than he really governed when he held sway in 1999. There's no lie they can't tell to bad- mouth obj and embellish Tinubu
You can see one of them claiming obj spent 15trillion on power, a cold lie, while they conveniently forget he built six power plants in his tenure. Meanwhile they do praise a Tinubu who brought a bankrupt Enron to Lagos for IPP as a visionary and preformer
The trouble is because Obj does not share rice and maize to buy the loyalty of people while the other man excels at doing just that. OBJ does not also roll with thugs and thuggish scoundrels like tinubu does. These are the reasons the so-called Yoruba tokan tokan youths adduce to choose their preferred leaders.
Very shameful

Acekidc4:
Obasanjo is indirectly Calling himself a Failure cos all those things he mentioned happened during his Tenure too🤔 Pot calling Kettle black!! Shioor!!

Taaa!!!! Shut up your mouth there. He is still the best democratic president post 99. We experienced tremendous growth under him.

Apus:
While you may be right sir, remember the rot we are experiencing today is as a result of the failure of past administrations including your own baba. You failed to revive Nigeria's ailing refineries whilst allocating humongous amount for such including electricity.

We need solutions now not rhetorics baba.

But he did the right thing by privatising them. The next administration reversed it.

Jahwinaboy:
In as much as I am not exonerating Obj, does it mean subsequent Presidents after him couldn't change the narratives? Yes, he was bad so what next?

He is calling others out for exactly what he did and u are supporting him, that's what I am pointing out to u.
Supporting means u won't do it differently if u were in that position.

JagabanB:

U forgot to tell us how he crashed NITEL which was working along with MTEL because he wanted to use other networks as cash cow.
U forgot to tell us that he crashed our refineries, ALSCON, Steel company etc.
You forgot to tell us that he laid the foundation for póór democracy in this country today.
Whatever positive he did was well countered by a negative that's the story of leadership in Nigèria and he is a culprit.

How did he crash refineries that were already dead before he became president? Oga calm down make you no dey lie because you are biased.

obyno82:


Taaa!!!! Shut up your mouth there. He is still the best democratic president post 99. We experienced tremendous growth under him.

Which Stupid Useless growth 🤨 be deceiving your sorry self. Mumu

obyno82:


How did he crash refineries that were already dead before he became president? Oga calm down make you no dey lie because you are biased.

I am biased because u searched and searched google and realized what I'm saying is the truth abi?
U didn't dispute any other thing I said apart from the refineries which OBJ used his hands to end completely abi?
Talk about bias next time.

FireUpNow:

Has Nigeria ever been ruled by any president without these issues?

No Sir, those issues are always Present!!

happney65:


Yeye, I will give you facts.

Tell me how did he crash Nitel? Was it even efficient before he came on board? Nitel or Mtel or whatever the fvck they called themselves simply went out of business because they couldn't keep up with the pace of the new entrants.

Obasanjo was a pure capitalist who knew government has no business being in business. And that is what he did effectively.

The Nitel then that was like current day Nepa,very inefficient and dumb. They simply went off the radar when they couldn't keep up with the new pace so how is that Obasanjo's fault?

And how did he crash our refineries please I want to know? Where? When? How? Obasanjo when he was leaving in 79,we had 4 functional refineries that he handed over to shagari. It was useless Buhari when he took over from shagari started the trajectory of our wobbling refineries. Obasanjo when he was about leaving sold off the dead refineries to Dangote and Otedola to do it as he discovered the government can't and won't be able to.

It was Yaradua that reversed the sale. Dangote said it at the commissing of his refinery himself .

What about Power?. Obasanjo has handed off generation, transmission and distribution too when he was leaving, Yaradua also cancelled it and here we are. He did it the same way he did telecommunications

Even infrastructure sef. The most busy federal road in Nigeria the Lagos Ibadan expressway that the Buhari administration are fixing was even constructed by him too in 79

His only mistake was he being a dictator and an election rigger. But talking about the Economy, Nobody,I repeat Nobody has surpassed him since 1999.

Periodt!

U started with "I will give you facts" I was keenly reading waiting for facts till the whole write up ended and I saw no facts.
Just another beer parlor talk.
NITEL and MTEL was a góvèrñment establishment, OBJ ran them to the ground, closed them up and somehow someone is saying "they are out of business because they couldn't keep up" who is supposed to make them keep up?
The village headmaster?
OBJ effectively destroyed railway services, closed down Nigerian Airways without paying off the workers, I am patiently waiting for u to tell me they couldn't keep up with modernization too.
OBJ sold ALSCON to a Russian company who made a proposal for purchasing ALSCON in Russian language against indigenous group who made a better offer, the committee in charge of the sale accepted that offer, OBJ came on TV and cancelled the offer and said it should be given to the Russians who made the offer in their language with far lesser amount.
Tell me that ALSCON can't keep up too.
Tell me OBJ who is crîtîcîziñg góvèrñment today grew the power sector, u are making Iamè excuses for him that he handed them over, so the essence of leadership is hand everything over and not take responsibility for anything right?
Do we talk about the refineries or the Steel mines in Ajaokuta?
The went out of business too because they couldn't keep up and it's not OBJ's fault abi?
Yet same OBJ is coming back to blame people for same thing u are making excuses on his behalf for today, do u even know why this discussion is on?
OBJ is crîtîcîziñg people for same thing he did and u are defending him for crîtîcîziñg people for same thing he did, do some of u even know why u argue on the internet or u do it because u don't pay for typing?

Acekidc4:
Obasanjo is indirectly Calling himself a Failure cos all those things he mentioned happened during his Tenure too🤔 Pot calling Kettle black!! Shioor!!

Keep quiet.

After his failed attempt to used Pityobi for his indirect 3rd term agenda he is now calling for the end of democracy. Should be kept under lock and key.