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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:31pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


You are right. We did not understand what we were getting into. Everybody was happy that a successful manager at Ajax was coming to OT. We just started scrutinizing his CV. It’s getting clearer that the guy is not there yet and he’s not even close.

Fans are allowed not to know what they are getting into, not club owners. And are you saying they started scrutinizing his CV AFTER employing him? grin You are worse than Maguire's mother. LOL

Anyway some of us here called it that he needed another person around him to help with squad building, cos anybody who follows football closely knows that Overmars firstly and VDS were the people who built those Ajax teams. If you are saying the Manchester United ownership and management did not know this, then the fault is theirs.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:31pm On Sep 17, 2023
Expert17:


I'm still waiting for Onana's error that led to goal(s), show us abeg....
All these epistles won't get your MCM a new club.

I am not a DDG fan. I wanted him gone too, but was hoping we’d get another keeper, not Onana. Ball playing keeper my foot!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Searchingvictor: 12:34pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


I am not a DDG fan. I wanted him gone too, but was hoping we’d get another keeper, not Onana. Ball playing keeper my foot!

You gerrit. We want an upgrade on Degea, not a downgrade. Onana is really a downgrade to Degea.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:34pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


I am not a DDG fan. I wanted him gone too, but was hoping we’d get another keeper, not Onana. Ball playing keeper my foot!

Ok, after just 5 games.

did you watch De Gea first season 2011/2012? Lol
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:34pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


I am not a DDG fan. I wanted him gone too, but was hoping we’d get another keeper, not Onana. Ball playing keeper my foot!

I wanted Diogo Costa. Onana's brain touch moments are not new to me but even i am a bit surprised at how beatable he has been.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:36pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:


Fans are allowed not to know what they are getting into, not club owners. And are you saying they started scrutinizing his CV AFTER employing him? grin You are worse than Maguire's mother. LOL

Anyway some of us here called it that he needed another person around him to help with squad building, cos anybody who follows football closely knows that Overmars firstly and VDS were the people who built those Ajax teams. If you are saying the Manchester United ownership and management did not know this, then the fault is theirs.

Well, I am sure they knew, reason they planned to have Ralf around him. I think the issue started when ETH asked for control. It was part of his conditions to take the job. We could not have said no to him at that point because the fans were already expecting ETH, plus there were no alternatives in the market.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by everton4life(m): 12:36pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


Lol. We all know how keepers make key saves to keep teams in a game or ensure their teams savage 1 point or all three points.

We don’t even last minutes on the pitch before this guy opens yansh yakata. Wtf! Onana has been conceding simple goals.
You see that third goal yesterday, na dat one even pain me pass. Joao Pedro didn't even add power to that shot! Like wtf!! angry angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:36pm On Sep 17, 2023
Expert17:


Ok, after just 5 games.

did you watch De Gea first season 2011/2012? Lol

The guy is conceding some eminently saveable goals sha. Let us not lie and let us not steal.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:37pm On Sep 17, 2023
If VAR was used correctly, we should have conceded a penalty against Wolves due to Onana's error. He should thank the referee for helping him out

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:38pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


Well, I am sure they knew, reason they planned to have Ralf around him. I think the issue started when ETH asked for control. It was part of his conditions to take the job. We could not have said no to him at that point because the fans were already expecting ETH, plus there were no alternatives in the market.
I guess they were desperate
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:39pm On Sep 17, 2023
With Ragnick or anyone with that profile, I'm pretty sure we won't be pursuing expensive transfers

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:39pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:


The guy is conceding some eminently saveable goals sha. Let us not lie and let us not steal.

Which one?

The free shots ,lol ...even Van DER Sar won't save them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:41pm On Sep 17, 2023
Expert17:


Ok, after just 5 games.

did you watch De Gea first season 2011/2012? Lol

The donut guy? I def remember when he really struggled with aerial balls, but we knew what he could do. Onana is not a goalkeeper!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:41pm On Sep 17, 2023
everton4life:
You see that third goal yesterday, na dat one even pain me pass. Joao Pedro didn't even add power to that shot! Like wtf!! angry angry

He was exposed and saw the ball late. His mistake was going with both hands.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:43pm On Sep 17, 2023
eph12:

I guess they were desperate

The pressure was too much na. We sacked Ole, and quickly snapped up Ralf, the mistake they made was having him manage the team, I am sure ETH saw his performances and said no to having him around him. Plus ETH is a stubborn goat. Honestly!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 12:43pm On Sep 17, 2023
larride:


And we have gotten all of them except Kane

We have scored how many goals in 5 games?

We need more signings
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:44pm On Sep 17, 2023
Expert17:


We need more signings

Serious or you are joking? Would you give this guy more money to spend?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:46pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


Well, I am sure they knew, reason they planned to have Ralf around him. I think the issue started when ETH asked for control. It was part of his conditions to take the job. We could not have said no to him at that point because the fans were already expecting ETH, plus there were no alternatives in the market.

If you are saying they depend on the fans for direction then we are in trouble. It is this PR-driven policy that has led us to this. "What will people say" is what they think about rather than "What is the smart/right thing to do". Imagine giving a man who was not even in charge of building squads of 100-200m total control of building a squad of 500m-900m. WITH NO EVIDENCE.

They get their instructions from fans that are so fickle that they will turn on a manager after 2 poor results. There is one popular YouTuber who was selling ETH "Ten Heisenberg" T-shirts a few weeks ago. The same guy is now ETH out. grin
Meanwhile when it comes to selling the club like most fans want, they have not done that one o. But when it comes to making ridiculous decisions they obey the fans.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Emaprince: 12:49pm On Sep 17, 2023
AdisaOwala:


I think Rashford's matter has always been a case of "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed fellow is king".

Truth is that his football growth hasn't turned out the way we envisaged and it's rather unfortunate.
Rushford would have turned out greater if Fergie was still here.

Remember that guy was a prolific young lad, netting twice, I think in his debut game against arsenal, which ended up a rout against the gunners. He scored in his debut for the three lions. He started just like rooney until Fergie left and moyes took over. The laters' spell dimmed the shinning lights of Rashy, cleverly, januzaj, Rafael and lots of other youngsters.

Honestly, looking back now, I can give Fergie his flowers cos the man did wonders with average united players at some point during his time. Eg is Madrid vs United in Bernabeau where welbeck lead the attack...plus so many other average players and they held their own in a double legged fixture which they lost due to Nanny red card.

People like cleverly and welbeck would have peaked at United If Fergie was still the manager.

Bad coach really dealt Rashy and so many others a blow, my guy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:52pm On Sep 17, 2023
Expert17:


He was exposed and saw the ball late. His mistake was going with both hands.
So he made a mistake? Onana is lucky to have a defender like you, not those nonsense like Martinez and co grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:52pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:


If you are saying they depend on the fans for direction then we are in trouble. It is this PR-driven policy that has led us to this. "What will people say" is what they think about rather than "What is the smart/right thing to do". Imagine giving a man who was not even in charge of building squads of 100-200m total control of building a squad of 500m-900m. WITH NO EVIDENCE.

They get their instructions from fans that are so fickle that they will turn on a manager after 2 poor results. There is one popular YouTuber who was selling ETH "Ten Heisenberg" T-shirts a few weeks ago. The same guy is now ETH out. grin
Meanwhile when it comes to selling the club like most fans want, they have not done that one o. But when it comes to making ridiculous decisions they obey the fans.

But y’all say the fans are important, we need to please the fans, after all they drive the cashflow. Same way customers determine a company’s products.

Anyway, in this case, we wanted to have a ‘fantastic’ manager on board. This is not the first time clubs meet managers’ conditions. ETH had some leverage due to his stint at Ajax plus we have not had a good manager in ages.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CrystalTiger(m): 12:52pm On Sep 17, 2023
12:51pm and them never sack this man 😒?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:05pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


But y’all say the fans are important, we need to please the fans, after all they drive the cashflow. Same way customers determine a company’s products.

Anyway, in this case, we wanted to have a ‘fantastic’ manager on board. This is not the first time clubs meet managers’ conditions. ETH had some leverage due to his stint at Ajax plus we have not had a good manager in ages.

LOL. I am not waiting for the day you blame the Glazers for anything.

You hear that a man built a nice bungalow. However, he didn't design the house, hire the labourers or buy the building materials. You now give him contract to build your high-rise. This time however you allow him to design the house, employ labourers, and buy the materials. You are now acting shocked that the high-rise is crumbling.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:19pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:



The fact that he completed 90 mins is another indictment on ETH.

100%.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 1:21pm On Sep 17, 2023
YourBestWriter:


It's not all about money. That is why clubs like Brighton play good football and beat bigger clubs. Their owners understand football management. When you see their dedication to their clubs and to the game, their good relationship with the fans. Look at mancity for example. Look at the dedication of their owners towards the club. When they came into the club 2008, mancity was like Luton of today. They didn't take from the club, but they invested heavily in the club with good relationship with the fans.

I've said it before, and I will say it again; football management without dedication and involving the fans is bound to fail massively. It's a pity that the glazers took this path of failure with my darling club manutd. And it's crazy they still holding on to the club after announcing their intention to sell.

In specific terms, what should the Glazer do that they are not doing currently
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:22pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:
Leyqute, Lacey played for the Under-21s in a friendly and provided the assist for the only goal of the game.

Yeah. That u21 match was today.

You can see what I was talking about the other day?

Seems as if they are rushing him. I don’t think he’s ready for that level. Yet.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:23pm On Sep 17, 2023
afrodoc2:


LOL. I am not waiting for the day you blame the Glazers for anything.

You hear that a man built a nice bungalow. However, he didn't design the house, hire the labourers or buy the building materials. You now give him contract to build your high-rise. This time however you allow him to design the house, employ labourers, and buy the materials. You are now acting shocked that the high-rise is crumbling.

Well, i already blamed them for giving Ralf the coaching job that made everyone give up on him.

Btw, the guys that build skyscrapers started from somewhere. Someone gave them the chance to move away from Bungalows to mid-rises and then skyscrapers, and trusted them to do everything. It’s called a turnkey construction/contract. Experience comes through more/higher responsibilities.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:27pm On Sep 17, 2023
ETH is just a stubborn goat, honestly!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:31pm On Sep 17, 2023
nitrogen:


Well, i already blamed them for giving Ralf the coaching job that made everyone give up on him.

Btw, the guys that build skyscrapers started from somewhere. Someone gave them the chance to move away from Bungalows to mid-rises and then skyscrapers, and trusted them to do everything. It’s called a turnkey construction/contract.

So you will allow someone who had limited role and extensive support in building a bungalow have total control building your high-rise? Or will you ensure he has that same extensive support in building your high-rise? Dey play. Anyway, we are where we are now.

P.S I didn't give up on Ralf. Back then I said something along the lines of it was like sacking your plumber for not doing a good job with the carpentry job you urgently begged him to do for you.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:33pm On Sep 17, 2023
raumdeuter:


In specific terms, what should the Glazer do that they are not doing currently
All they need to do right now before ETH and his boys can start playing well is to sell the club. Apparently they're playing poorly as a protest against the Glazers

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:34pm On Sep 17, 2023
eph12:

All they need to do right now before ETH and his boys can start playing well is to sell the club. Apparently they're playing poorly as a protest against the Glazers

Wicked!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:36pm On Sep 17, 2023
everton4life:
You see that third goal yesterday, na dat one even pain me pass. Joao Pedro didn't even add power to that shot! Like wtf!! angry angry

Just too easy. Opponents just need to try and bam, the goals will enter.

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