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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by LegacyB: 5:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
simfrost90210:



Be deceiving yourself........
You're just a product of an unfortunately precarious situation that made you dual or more in nature! For the records, go back and ask Buhari And Obasanjo the bone of contention of the tribunal after 2023 elections.. After reading that, then, you can ask your ancestors to go and read, not me...
Go back to school it’s not too late. When Supreme Court correct you am sure you will still say you know more than them. Don’t be too lazy to read and think.

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by HydraFeeds(m): 5:12pm On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Infact, you just need to attend a couple of seminars, or attend classes in primary school to be qualified. No certificate is required,
just evidence you attended primary school


Like a market to market candidate that got his degree from Harvard seminar but only submitted a gce he did after gaining admission to study philosophy where he graduated with bad result .

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by simfrost90210: 5:12pm On Sep 20, 2023
LegacyB:

Go back to school it’s not too late. When Supreme Court correct you am sure you will still say you know more than them. Don’t be too lazy to read and think.


The world would be a better place with the absence of children of fallen demons like you.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by famology(m): 5:14pm On Sep 20, 2023
hammerFC:



IF THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF FEDERATION KNOWS WHAT IS GOOD FOR HIM, AND TRUILY LOVE THIS COUNTRY TO REMAIN ONE, HE WILL DELIVER JUSTICE AND NOT JUDGEMENT.


IF I WAS HIM, COMMON SENSE WILL TELL ME THAT, THIS TINUBU THAT COULD NOT WIN SW REGION, WHY SHOULD I HELP HIM RIG, WHEN THE YORUBA PEOPLE DENY HIM THEIR VOTE.


SO WHO I'M I RIGGING IT FOR?



THE SECOND QUESTION MY COMMON SENSE WILL TELL ME, IS THAT SINCE WE ARE BOTH YORUBA FROM THE SAME TRIBE, I BETTER MAINTAIN TRANSPERANCY BECAUSE ALREADY PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING TRIBALISM TO INFORM MY JUDGEMENT.



THE THIRD POINT HERE IS, RESPECT FOR SELF.

I WILL NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WILL SEE THE REPUTATION AND CAREER I WORK SO HARD FOR IN DISREPUTE AT THE END.

WHAT WOULD MY LEGACY BE, IF I COMMIT THIS CRIME.


THE YORUBA PEOPLE WILL CERTAINLY DENY BOTH TINUBU AND ARIWOOLA.


All emotions and misrepresentation of facts as typical of the average obidient. Firstly, Tinubu won south west convincingly, go and check your results again. Secondly, the petitioners have not proven anything thus far. This is law not gamble. Law is not try Ur luck.

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by hammerFC: 5:16pm On Sep 20, 2023
famology:



All emotions and misrepresentation of facts as typical of the average obidient. Firstly, Tinubu won south west convincingly, go and check your results again. Secondly, the petitioners have not proven anything thus far. This is law not gamble. Law is not try Ur luck.

WHAT IS MORE EMOTIONAL THAN A MAN THAT IS ARGUING ABOUT 25%, EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION IN BLACK AND WHITE?


GREED KILLS.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by cl0r0x: 5:17pm On Sep 20, 2023
Babalegba:
Obi is too ignorant to be Nigeria's president. His understanding of English language and syntax is woeful

Is Nigeria England?

Stop paramounting someone's language instead of the 200 we have here.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by wirinet(m): 5:18pm On Sep 20, 2023
Princedapace:


Law does not have sentiment. Law no dey do like this. Law is a law. Just as the law still gave the INEC opportunity to decide at anytime to transmit result electronically or not. This gave INEC upper hand to decide to change the format of transmitting result even few seconds to the election and INEC would win. Is that right? No. But unfortunately, law does not apply sentiment.

The law gave Abuja that special status becus it is seen as no man's land and belongs to all Nigerians. It sees Abuja as a place where all Nigerians have same and equal right and the sit of power. That is a loophole. If Nigeria is working, that alone would nolify the result for Tinubu.
Law is law! What u are applying is sentiment. If law is sentiment, law will not send a hungry thief caught for stealing becus he or she was hungry grin
Two things the law needs to fix here: Make Abuja another state or retain it as it is.
Secondly, mandate INEC to transmit result electronically to reduce malpractice. As long as the law still gives INEC the power to decide how to transmit result even if it is to change it few minutes before or after election, it simply means that the new electoral law is wack.
In law there is something called loophole. The Abuja case is one. The electronic transmission of result and still give INEC right to decide or not to use it is also a loophole.

In effect you are advocating ignoring the electoral act passed by the national assembly before the conduct of each general election. INEC in his wisdom makes recommendations to be included in the electoral act. The national assembly debate and pass the act and the president signs it into law. You and the appeal court days INEC can decide to change the way it conducts elections few days to the elections and ignore the electoral act because it has the discretion on how it chooses to conduct elections.

About Abuja. Is it not a paradox that Abuja is a state in conducting elections only and not a state on how it is governed? The Governor of Abuja is the president, but is not required to obtain at least one vote from the residents and indigenes. How is that Democracy? Why should Abuja residents come out and vote at all in the presidential/Governship elections when their votes don't count at all?
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by sukar886: 5:18pm On Sep 20, 2023
Wike is the governor of abuja without capital, someone from rivers state is governing a northern state, Nigerians judges i laugh in swahili
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by hammerFC: 5:21pm On Sep 20, 2023
sukar886:
Wike is the governor of abuja without capital, someone from rivers state is governing a northern state, Nigerians judges i laugh in swahili


YET ABUJA IS THE 37TH STATE.

Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by nedzuby: 5:24pm On Sep 20, 2023
Bobloco:
•Say 25% in FCT mandatory
•Ask apex court to nullify Tinubu’s victory
•Insist PEPC judgement perverse, miscarriage of justice
•INEC didn’t transmit results electronically
•Why we’re at S-Court — LP





https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/presidential-poll-abuja-cant-be-37th-state-atiku-obi-tell-supreme-court/amp/

Just unfortunate that their Lawyers are not being sincere to them. They just want to enjoy Atiku and Obi’s money once again.

Anyway, I wish both of them luck as they embark on another journey of futility

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by ObidenceNeckpre: 5:27pm On Sep 20, 2023
"Atiku, through his consortium of 67 lawyers that comprised 18 Senior Advocates of Nigeria led by Chief Chris Uche, SAN, filed 35 grounds of appeal to challenge Tinubu’s victory, Obi, through his own team of lawyers led by Dr. Livy Uzoukwu, SAN, filed 51 grounds of appeal before the apex court."

2 IPOB Sant East weyre calling themselves SANs shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by MRMRMR: 5:29pm On Sep 20, 2023
PDP & LP are best described as clowns or public entertainers

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Hedonisco: 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2023
Mynd44:
Seems both LP and PDP are copying one another like this is some kind of examination malpractice.

You cannot claim you won based on IREV Because IREV Is not the primary mode of result transmission. IREV is merely a way to confirm. The primary mode are the result sheets signed by party agents, INEC officials and security officials. These sheets exist and each party are supposed to have them. If each of the party agents did not raise any issue during collation why now? How come these result sheets have not been tendered? It isn't the fault of INEC the LP Doesn't have enough party agents to monitor results or that PDP is fighting their own members hence they refused to even submit the results.

As for the drug case, even their witness said the case was a civil suit. And the Appeal court went on to stay that even if it was a criminal case
1. It was not duly registered in Nigeria 🇳🇬
2. It has exceeded 10 years which a ban is supposed to last for
3. The US government through the FBI in 2003 has said there has not been a criminal case against Tinubu.

Every other thing is thrash

Your lengthy, unsolicited, tribalism induced junk of a response is the only thrash I can see here.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by zeestone99(m): 5:40pm On Sep 20, 2023
Righthussle:
I am totally against giving special status to FCT. In our various states, I want to ask, Is it a must to score 25% of the votes in the capital to become governor? Come on, make una dey calm down na.

Let me state it here before you mention me to ask whether Abuja is special.

Yes, Abuja doesn't have a governor. I know Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special. Just as it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in any particular state to win the presidential election, it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in Abuja to win the presidential election.

The law says otherwise. If we all start to screen everything the laws says then we will have no law to follow. Many things are wrong but the law is the law.
For example a the law just asked car owners to pay for proof of ownership certificate, car that u cleared and have more than 6 documents on to prove u r d owner. It doesn't make sense but the law is the law. Until we change the law notin can b done.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Princedapace(m): 5:44pm On Sep 20, 2023
wirinet:


In effect you are advocating ignoring the electoral act passed by the national assembly before the conduct of each general election. INEC in his wisdom makes recommendations to be included in the electoral act. The national assembly debate and pass the act and the president signs it into law. You and the appeal court days INEC can decide to change the way it conducts elections few days to the elections and ignore the electoral act because it has the discretion on how it chooses to conduct elections.

About Abuja. Is it not a paradox that Abuja is a state in conducting elections only and not a state on how it is governed? The Governor of Abuja is the president, but is not required to obtain at least one vote from the residents and indigenes. How is that Democracy? Why should Abuja residents come out and vote at all in the presidential/Governship elections when their votes don't count at all?

That discreation is what needs to be stopped. That means the person who mount the INEC position as chairman is so powerful and can sell out the election to the higest bidder. It is either we transmit results electronically or we dont. There is no need to pass that as law and still give the INEC chairman the power to change the way results are transmitted even few seconds to the election or during the election.
This is 21 century and we should be doing stuff that can enhance the credibility of our elections. The current system gives the INEC chairman so much power and he may do stuff against who he hates.
This has been the problem facing the black countries. They make humans so powerful instead of making laws more powerful. When laws are more powerful, it becomes supreme above every other person.

Like I said earlier, the law is not sentimental. The law currently made Abuja special. There is no part of the constition that says that Abuja is a state only during elections and becomes a non state after election. That is very laughable. Like I said, this is a loophole that if it is in a developed country would have made the election canceled and rerun reconducted. The law is not sentimental.
Those who made that law, I am sure never saw it coming. Probably, didnt know that some day, a person from one region like that may win that city grin

What u are applying is sentiment and logics. It is same as saying that I am right to steal becus I am hungry grin

After this election, we need to decide if the electoral act is above the law or not.
If Abuja should be a state, if it chooses to be a state, then every right of Nigerian states should be given to it. If it chooses not to be a state, then, it remains so.
And lastly, we must insist on electronic transmission of results. No more, no less. We spend so much money not to do that. In fact, part of the reasons INEC was given so much money was due to her electronic transmission of results. How can we pay for something and u change it at last minutes.
Let do the right thing. The reason military coups are taking place in Africa is not becus of anything else aside faulty electoral system that is full of cheats. And the so called democrats not doing what they are supposed to do. That is what should be addressed, not the useless threats of sending forces to start war.

To avoid problem in Nigeria, our elections have to be properly fixed because what we saw during this last election is total madness. It can lead to war. We are just lucky in Nigeria, we shouldnt take the luck for granted.

Other things we must decide are:
Are non indegines free to vote anywhere in Nigeria or they must travel back to their states to vote.
These issues need to be fixed and fixed urgently. Nothing causes unrest like elections riddled in cheating

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by abbasajao(m): 5:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
Supreme Court will throw this to dust bin again.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Babalegba(m): 6:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
cl0r0x:


Is Nigeria England?

Stop paramounting someone's language instead of the 200 we have here.
English is our official language and Obi should be able to understand as It's the language of the constitution.Every school going fourteen years old should be able to understand that you don't need to win in Abuja but if you do it will be counted as a state for you.Abuja would have been more severely contested if a win is mandatory there. What's the use of winning all the thirty six states if you lose after losingAbuja.
Nigerians are too embarrassingly daft for my liking ,even the so called educated ones.

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Lapintoz50: 6:32pm On Sep 20, 2023
As e dey pain you...e dey sweet us 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

hammerFC:



HOW CAN A PERSON THAT WANT TO BE PRESIDENT, NOT WIN HIS HOME STATE, OSUN.


TINUBU CANNOT WIN HIS STATE OF RESIDENCE LAGOS


TINUBU CANNOT WIN KANO.


TINUBU CANNOT WIN ORDINARY 25% IN ABUJA.


TINUBU WITH THE HELP OF WIKE, RIGGED RIVERS STATE, TO DENY OBI VICTORY.


CLEARLY THE 25% IS THE TRAP THAT CAUGHT HIM, HE REALLY SHOULD NOT BE IN ASO ROCK.


LAST MINUTE RIGGING, BECAUSE BUHARI REFUSED.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by poiZon: 6:34pm On Sep 20, 2023
Righthussle:


Yes Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special.
Then her citizens should demand what other states r enjoying since it isn't special
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Riversstate: 6:38pm On Sep 20, 2023
Righthussle:
I am totally against giving special status to FCT. In our various states, I want to ask, Is it a must to score 25% of the votes in the capital to become governor? Come on, make una dey calm down na.

Let me state it here before you mention me to ask whether Abuja is special.

Yes, Abuja doesn't have a governor. I know Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special. Just as it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in any particular state to win the presidential election, it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in Abuja to win the presidential election.

Your brain is damaged
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Jega18: 6:47pm On Sep 20, 2023
They were saying that according to the electoral acts that IREV should be use in transmission of results but the said IREV was not use again
Mynd44:
Seems both LP and PDP are copying one another like this is some kind of examination malpractice.

You cannot claim you won based on IREV Because IREV Is not the primary mode of result transmission. IREV is merely a way to confirm. The primary mode are the result sheets signed by party agents, INEC officials and security officials. These sheets exist and each party are supposed to have them. If each of the party agents did not raise any issue during collation why now? How come these result sheets have not been tendered? It isn't the fault of INEC the LP Doesn't have enough party agents to monitor results or that PDP is fighting their own members hence they refused to even submit the results.

As for the drug case, even their witness said the case was a civil suit. And the Appeal court went on to stay that even if it was a criminal case
1. It was not duly registered in Nigeria 🇳🇬
2. It has exceeded 10 years which a ban is supposed to last for
3. The US government through the FBI in 2003 has said there has not been a criminal case against Tinubu.

Every other thing is thrash
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by abbey621(m): 7:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
GIVE IT UP NIGGA......THIS IS GETTING EMBARRASSING grin grin grin
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Brownking: 7:06pm On Sep 20, 2023
Righthussle:
I am totally against giving special status to FCT. In our various states, I want to ask, Is it a must to score 25% of the votes in the capital to become governor? Come on, make una dey calm down na.

Let me state it here before you mention me to ask whether Abuja is special.

Yes, Abuja doesn't have a governor. I know Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special. Just as it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in any particular state to win the presidential election, it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in Abuja to win the presidential election.

What did the constitution say, or the constitution changes when it's doesn't favour some people. Abuja is not a state and there won't be need to argue blindly, the judges were bribed, if it was in the olding days by now their children and wives should have started from one illness or the other, Nigeria is were it is because we practice tribalism even down to as little as the local government chairman, see who we picked as our president Buhari for 8years now Buhari for another 8years. Now the USD is 970/1$, Cefa has even passed the Naira, to school abroad now one needs like 30million, something that 4.5million. I saw JoJo dog food today at the mall for 1200, when I bought it last it 350. Omo let's stop praying for a good leader and elect one GOD has given us knowledge and understanding let's use it and stop being sentimental, these politicians only care about themselves and their families. Nigerians wake up!!!

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by OsunOriginal: 7:28pm On Sep 20, 2023
Bobloco:
•Say 25% in FCT mandatory
•Ask apex court to nullify Tinubu’s victory
•Insist PEPC judgement perverse, miscarriage of justice
•INEC didn’t transmit results electronically
•Why we’re at S-Court — LP





https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/presidential-poll-abuja-cant-be-37th-state-atiku-obi-tell-supreme-court/amp/

These illiterates again? 25% in FCT a must...

Obi's case is not only illiteracy, he seems to be morally bankrupt in equal dimension.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by ValarDoharis: 7:29pm On Sep 20, 2023
Nobody in your clan come close to him..Nobody!
HydraFeeds:


Like a market to market candidate that got his degree from Harvard seminar but only submitted a gce he did after gaining admission to study philosophy where he graduated with bad result .
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Deepthoughts: 7:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
Bobloco:
•Say 25% in FCT mandatory
•Ask apex court to nullify Tinubu’s victory
•Insist PEPC judgement perverse, miscarriage of justice
•INEC didn’t transmit results electronically
•Why we’re at S-Court — LP





https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/09/presidential-poll-abuja-cant-be-37th-state-atiku-obi-tell-supreme-court/amp/
The supreme Court really need to look into the issue of the over 18,000+ blurred or blank results sheets from INEC itself,how is that possible?, the supreme Court also need to look into the INEC claim of a technical glitch against the facts from Amazon to establish truth,the supreme Court also need to state if that doctrine of legitimate expectations is not valid in the circumstances of INEC assurance,on the whole INEC conduct during the election was very very questionable n outrightly dubious, certainly the elections were far from transparent,free or fair.

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Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by HydraFeeds(m): 7:52pm On Sep 20, 2023
ValarDoharis:
Nobody in your clan come close to him..Nobody!
shut up ,you have no lineage .
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by LegacyB: 8:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
simfrost90210:



The world would be a better place with the absence of children of fallen demons like you.
Kikiki….. we know you will still say you know more than the Supreme Court when they come out with their verdict. Almost 8 years for you to be sobbing isn’t a good thing. I understand your predicament so I won’t bother to flog you back with insults.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by IfnobeGod20: 8:17pm On Sep 20, 2023
Righthussle:
I am totally against giving special status to FCT. In our various states, I want to ask, Is it a must to score 25% of the votes in the capital to become governor? Come on, make una dey calm down na.

Let me state it here before you mention me to ask whether Abuja is special.

Yes, Abuja doesn't have a governor. I know Abuja is special but to what extent is it special. The tribunal just made us to understand that when it comes to VOTES, Abuja isn't special. Just as it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in any particular state to win the presidential election, it is not a must to score 25% of votes cast in Abuja to win the presidential election.
You know the difference between governorship election and the presidential election. Section 134 was specifically for presidential election while section 179 was for governorship election. Now read the difference below for the two elections.

Section 134 (b)
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

This section specifically said 2/3 of the votes in all states of the federation and FCT


Section 179 (1)(b)
he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the local government areas in the State,

Let us use Kogi as an example here to explain this section.
This section 179 didn't say having 2/3 of the votes cast in all local government areas and Lokoja.

My own take: that section 134, the last word might have erroneously added or by intention, they expected anyone that want to be a president of the federation to have 2/3 from his seat of power. Only the drafter of the constitution can explain that and not those not there.

For now, if the supreme court claimed FCT is a state, they are going to create a serious constitutional issue because the people of FCT we want the administration of FCT to be like other states of the federation.

Me I am of the opinion that section just creates a lacuna and all we need doing is to just tinker on it after the supreme court judgement.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by famology(m): 8:28pm On Sep 20, 2023
hammerFC:


WHAT IS MORE EMOTIONAL THAN A MAN THAT IS ARGUING ABOUT 25%, EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION IN BLACK AND WHITE?


GREED KILLS.

The constitution must not be interpreted to massage your ignorance. Expect another bloody nose at the supreme court.

IGNORANCE KILLS FASTER THAN GREED.
Re: Presidential Poll: Abuja Can’t Be 37th State, Atiku, Obi Tell Supreme Court by Emyogalanya: 9:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
If Abuja has no special status then the election is inconclusive since they all won in 12 states

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