Kog45:
Graeme Le Saux from Jersey a English channel island.I followed him passionately as Chelsea fan,a good left back in his days.

Well,am opportune to watch old,new and vastly new generation of footballers.Yes there are massive improvements in what we are having today which is expected but I will not use that to downgrade the past footballers.

Sir,I want us to have this analyze starting from Nigeria using eagles as our reference point from 1980 till date and compares the set of eagles.

Odunayaw:
I'm glad we have an Elder in the house. Would you place the said man as a defender legend?

Kog45:
I don’t think thegoodjoe refers to him as legend but I see him as England legend when talking of left full backs who have done it for English national team but rating across the world I will rate him as one of them that played the game,nothing much.

Kog45:
Graeme Le Saux from Jersey a English channel island.I followed him passionately as Chelsea fan,a good left back in his days.

Well,am opportune to watch old,new and vastly new generation of footballers.Yes there are massive improvements in what we are having today which is expected but I will not use that to downgrade the past footballers.

Sir,I want us to have this analyze starting from Nigeria using eagles as our reference point from 1980 till date and compares the set of eagles.

My all time eagles till date that will make today’s eagles line up.

1.Vincent Enyeama
2.Bright Osayi
3.Taiye Taiwo
4.Stephen Keshi
5.Uche Okechucwu
6.Muda Lawal
7.Segun Odegbami
8..Daniel Amokachie
9.Rashidi Yekini
10.Austin Okocha
11.Adokiye Aimesemeaka

Bannedlargedx2:


There’s no way that osimehn won’t be on Nigeria all time xi even if his career end today (God forbid) tell me a Nigerian footballer that achieved something similar to what osimehn achieved at Napoli last season? Mind you, the likes of Kanu, Mikel, martins, Moses all won league titles at the big 3 but they wasn’t as integral at their team as osimehn was at Napoli last season

Kog45:
Sir,my opinion and I said as it stand today,hope you see Osayi in my team….

Osimhen still have Yekini to beat and his Afcon performance will determine that,not even all time highest goal scorer.He is close to my all time team but Yekini still has the edge for now…

Odunayaw:
Na this straight no nonsense opinion na im I de like o Elder.

English football used to be largely kick and rush.

Mr Joe harping on him & Toby made it look like the new teaching the greats of old.

Bannedlargedx2:


Aside if yekini, there are other players on your list that osimehn is much better and team has to select their best possible 11. Personally, I will have the both of them on my Nigeria all time 11

AndSunGorilla:

Didn't Rohr invite him? I can't remember why he turned down the invite.

Kog45:
I don’t think thegoodjoe refers to him as legend but a England legend when talking of left full backs that have done it for English national team,rating across the world I will rate him as one of them that played the game,nothing much.

TheGoodJoe:


You agree he is an English national team legend. Then try to downplay with across the board. That downplay is going out of context of the debate.

The debate is about tactical knowledge, not comparing Le Saux with Maldini or Carlos or Puyol.

Now, an English national team legend, meets a young player and gets some tactical concepts of defending from the young player. Then exclaimed that he learnt more in that lesson than all he learnt in his whole career.

That is the point. Not comparing across board.

The gulf in knowledge between Le Saux, who is a bigger name as far as I am concerned to Alderweireld will give you a picture of how the old guards are less informed tactically.

Mujtahida:

Who even know the club wey him play for. He didn't even play for any of the big clubs of his era. See exceptional player appearances and goals for mid clubs of that era like Sampdoria, Valencia and Parma 😂😂😂

TheGoodJoe:


The likes of Cafu and Maldini lack the kind of tactical education defenders get today. Haba.

TheGoodJoe:
The problem is most of you find comprehending points difficult. I have to repeat it for days and you will still talk off point.

I said, De Bruyne is more effective. If you want grace and tricks. Call Zidane. If you want radiant and beautiful football, call Zidane. If you want effectiveness and tactical intuitive play, De Bruyne trumps Zidane.

You people saying Zidane is better is strictly due to grace and style.

There is more to the game today than grace and style.

Mujtahida:

Even Maradona himself did not score that solo dribble exceptional goal against England on a regular basis. It was a one time goal that encapsulates his genius.

Odunayaw:
I watched a Milan derby from 2008 and omoo I would be okay to watch replays of these matches and players all season than this pap they serve us

jihday:
people are rating Zidane because he’s a clutch player, pinging 500 passes against Stoke isn’t same as pocketing the whole Brazil’s national team. Debruyne will be quickly forgotten once his career is over because he has no real career highlight. Had the chance in last season UCL but injury did him dirty

jihday:
this is an insult not only to these legends but to fans that have been following the game for a long time

Kog45:
In summary does it makes Le Saux a poor player to new generation players.

Knowledge in football should not be static so not a news to me that Le Saux acknowledged the recent tactics in football or do you want the tactics to remain as it was ten years ago.

We don’t need to talk much on this except if you are using the new knowledge to downplay older ones.

Bannedlargedx2:

Nope, he isn’t but he has the potential to be really great. Anyway, the both of them are world class strikers

TheGoodJoe:


Manchester City is breaking records season after season in English football and De Bruyne is a big part of it.

do4luv14:



What has he done for his national team, abi does football start and end at City

Good morning bing to you sir

lukasa:
Please can we stop this arguments with the blue font person,let's talk better things.The day I knew he wasn't alright was when he compared KDB to Zizzou.We have better things to talk abeg

TheGoodJoe:


What is the contradiction? Have I ever said that Chaves players are high grade? I have always maintained that Kelechi Nwakali is the best player in the team. So can you explain contradiction in my statement?

komekn:


You are blinded to the point of absurdity in your fanatical fantasy support for a mediocre player.

You said he was the best in the Segunda division but he left the lowly relegated Ponferradina to an even lower club Chavez FC

This club has the lowest performance in the entire Portuguese league they have lost all 5 matches but somehow you think Nwakali is the best .

Best of what Very Poor level 😞 players.

Statistics are not necessarily conclusive then taken in context they are only indicative. He is so good his coach doesn't start him but leaves him on the bench.

A player may get a 8.9 rating in a Chavez Portuguese first tier league game, will that make him better than a player getting 5.5 in the premier League ❓

Certainly not , why because there is a huge gulf and disparity in the quality context. So best player (highly debatable) in that context is still very poor by comparison to other quality better Leagues.

You are a hypocrite with double standard, because you say the team is very poor but with the exception of Nwakali who is excellent and the best player in the team. That's simply ludicrous.

ChrisKels:
I would play Igoh Ogbu ahead of Omerou, Ekong, Ajayi and Adarabioyo*

TheGoodJoe:


Try an learn to comprehend points. De Bruyne's style of play is more effective than Zizou's style.

Finito.

charlesemeka85:
the guy is good

jieta:
The possibility of meeting this north Africa team is freighting. I will like us to meet Tunisia i want to check something.