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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 5:42am On Sep 22, 2023
Razgas:
A quick search of posts of any Tinubu supporter is filled with insults of Obi and his supporters. But you are the one right and peaceful while Obi and his supporters are evil. You don't assassinate Obi's character when you call him ipob. But Tinubu who actually forfeited money to U.S on drug charges is having his character assassinated.

Of course we know you are not Igbo. No real Igbo person would think that Middle belt and SS people who voted Obi are IPOB.
We also know you don't want a detribalised Nigeria otherwise why call an Igbo politician who killed many Biafran activists, owns businesses in Lagos and Abuja and built a national movement within 6 months 'IPOB'
I will tell you this, the evil you wish for Igbos is what you and your family members will meet in this life...since after all, you claim to be Igbo.

There you go. NARCISSISTS.

You are never at fault in ANYTHING.

Disgusting set of people. Even on this thread, you've introduced your tribalism. Everyone else had an intelligent contribution. Then you came in with your tribalism.

Please just get lost, cause I've no time for you worthless IPOB Obidient animals right now.

You think I'm not Igbo because you are a primitive village dunce who thinks all Igbos are primitive spear chuckers like you who hate other ethnicities.

Each time I'm on social media, 99% of the people insulting and attacking Nigeria are IGBOS aka 'OBIDIENTS'.

You are just horrible people.

Out of 300 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Only YOU one group are always attacking Nigeria and Nigerians.

Why?

Simply because you're so greedy to secede and annex their oil and gas resources in the delta and form a small country with you at the helm, so you can enjoy while everyone else starves.

Just get lost from here. You disgust me. Gerrout.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Malroux: 6:03am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


There you go. NARCISSISTS.

You are never at fault in ANYTHING.

Disgusting set of people. Even on this thread, you've introduced your tribalism. Everyone else had an intelligent contribution, tlll you came in with your tribalism.

Please just get lost, cause I've no time for you worthless animals right now.

You think I'm not Igbo because you are a primitive village dunce who thinks all Igbos are primitive spear chuckers like you who hate other ethnicities.

Each time I'm on social media, 99% of the people insulting and attacking Nigeria are IGBOS aka 'OBIDIENTS'.

You are just horrible people.

Out of 300 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Only YOU one group are always attacking Nigeria and Nigerians.

Why?

Simply because you want to secede and annex their oil and gas resources in the delta and form a small country with you at the helm, so you can enjoy while everyone else starves.

Just get lost from here. You disgust me. Gerrout.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 6:08am On Sep 22, 2023
Malroux:
You fell for his tricks. I thought you are wiser than this? His aim is to derail your educative thread and make you abandone it and you are helping him to achieve that. Continue with the purpose of the topic and forget about him and his likes.

Nobody can derail AFRICAN HISTORY. It is cast in stone.

He cannot erase what's been posted. His contribution and my response are also needed, because we need to know what our problems are as a people, and he is here to show us that he is part of our problems, and we need to know how to handle that problem if we're to move forward.

Perhaps we can research how the great Benin Empire dealt with traitors and secessionists?

I can imagine their 200,000 strong army did not smile on traitors, but were highly ruthless and decisive in flushing them out, hence the longevity of the great Empire, which lasted a thousand years.

So we have a lot to learn from our history, including how to handle toxic populations.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 6:12am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


There you go. NARCISSISTS.

You are never at fault in ANYTHING.

Disgusting set of people. Even on this thread, you've introduced your tribalism. Everyone else had an intelligent contribution. Then you came in with your tribalism.

Please just get lost, cause I've no time for you worthless IPOB Obidient animals right now.

You think I'm not Igbo because you are a primitive village dunce who thinks all Igbos are primitive spear chuckers like you who hate other ethnicities.

Each time I'm on social media, 99% of the people insulting and attacking Nigeria are IGBOS aka 'OBIDIENTS'.

You are just horrible people.

Out of 300 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Only YOU one group are always attacking Nigeria and Nigerians.

Why?

Simply because you're so greedy to secede and annex their oil and gas resources in the delta and form a small country with you at the helm, so you can enjoy while everyone else starves.

Just get lost from here. You disgust me. Gerrout.

you are the disgusting one whose sole reputation on this forum is insulting Igbos.
If someone who doesn't know about Nigeria at all stumbles unto your profile and uses your posts as his sole information and education resource on the country, he would think that Igbos are devil incarnate.
That speaks well of you. A tribe of around 30 million people who are Mostly minding the business that pays them has been reduced to devils by someone who strangely is not tribalistic.
Strange indeed

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by ruffhandu: 6:12am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:
I suspect this wall was built to keep out the Arab jihadists invading West Africa many centuries ago.

It clearly worked. For centuries. In fact it could be reasonably argued that had this wall not been built, we would be bearing names like Abdullahi and Muhammed today instead of Ayodele, Chukwuma, and so on, since Benin was the biggest and most powerful kingdom of the south, and had they captured Benin, the rest of the region would have been a breeze for them.

So, a very good and laudable project.

Indigenously envisioned, conceptualized, and executed.

With no stories of mago mago or somebody chopping the money meant for building the wall. wink

Was Auchi part of the Benin empire?
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 6:15am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:




Disgusting set of people.

And just for my information and record, who is the sentence directed at? Igbos? The one you come from? Or maybe the SW branch?

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 6:15am On Sep 22, 2023
ruffhandu:


Was Auchi part of the Benin empire?

I believe it was.

Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 6:20am On Sep 22, 2023
Deeply troubling that someone who is calling for Nigerians to be killed by their fellow Nigerian is a detribalised pan African.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by alizma: 6:22am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


I just posted pictures of the wall above here. What are you talking about?

The wall is partly overground and partly moat, which is covered by greenery.

Successive governments have neglected and ignored it.

In a serious country where people took pride in their history and heritage, that wall would have been our BIGGEST INCOME EARNER even more than oil, as a result of tourism.

This is literally the biggest man-made structure ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH!

Yet most NIGERIANS don't even know it exists, talk less of the world's people.

Ordinary Stonehenge in England brings in more than 20 billion dollars annually to the UK in tourism receipts.

Stonehenge is just a few rocks piled on top of each other to form a small circle.

Stonehenge


The whole world knows about Stonehenge, but nobody knows about the Great Benin Wall that is 4 times longer than the Great Wall of China.

In fact we have problems as a people.




You started well until you started blabbing of the wall being our biggest income source even more than oil, like seriously

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 6:26am On Sep 22, 2023
Malroux:
You fell for his tricks. I thought you are wiser than this? His aim is to derail your educative thread and make you abandone it and you are helping him to achieve that. Continue with the purpose of the topic and forget about him and his likes.
I went through your post and I know you are a reasonable person.
The guy you are supporting on this thread against Me is probably the most evil Nigerian alive today.
He holds extreme views that even boko haram leaders don't hold.
Calling him out on this thread and on every other thread is a patriotic act.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 6:27am On Sep 22, 2023
alizma:

You started well until you started blabbing of the wall being our biggest income source even more than oil, like seriously

YES, ''LIKE SERIOUSLY''.

Guess how much the UK earns from tourism every year.

214 BILLION DOLLARS.

That is nearly 6 times Nigeria's annual budget.

Stonehenge visitors account for a hefty chunk of that sum because, 977,000 (just say I MILLION) tourists visited Stonehenge last year. That was a low number because of the 'pandemic', because in 2019 that figure was 1.7million visitors to Stonehenge.

https://www.visitbritain.org/annual-survey-visits-visitor-attractions-latest-results

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Malroux: 6:31am On Sep 22, 2023
Razgas:
I went through your post and I know you are a reasonable person.
The guy you are supporting on this thread against Me is probably the most evil Nigerian alive today.
He holds extreme views that even boko haram leaders don't hold.
Calling him out on this thread and on every other thread is a patriotic act.
I'm not supporting anyone here bro. Just wanted to learn more about the great wall of Benin. I just saw his past posts here and I now understand whom he truly is. Posterity will judge everyone.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MrsTwrite(f): 6:32am On Sep 22, 2023
This is not the comment you're looking for. Keep scrolling. sad

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Nobody: 6:34am On Sep 22, 2023
Malroux:
I'm not supporting anyone here bro. Just wanted to learn more about the great wall of Benin. I just saw his past posts here and I now understand whom he truly is. Posterity will judge everyone.
Thank you 🙏
I came to learn here too. Until I saw the devil incarnate talking about being detribalised. I lost it.
You may need to edit your earlier post now that you know mine are not tricks

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by falcon01: 6:36am On Sep 22, 2023
Horus:
Benin City's walls were “four times longer than the Great Wall of China, and consumed a hundred times more material than the Great Pyramid of Egypt”. Benin City was also one of the first cities to have a semblance of street lighting
where exactly is the Benin wall now? Because I've looked for it and still can't find it talkmore of it claims to be the longest.
Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 6:44am On Sep 22, 2023
falcon01:
where exactly is the Benin wall now? Because I've looked for it and still can't find it talkmore of it claims to be the longest.

A simple trip to Benin will solve your issue. Simply get to Benin and ask anyone to direct you to the 'moat' as they call it.

Everyone in Benin knows about it. I actually lived in Benin for a while as a kid. The moat was very close to our house, and no one seemed to know why it was there. It was very massive and deep. You dare not get too near it because if you fall inside, your own don finish be dat. It's like falling down from a three storey building. Obviously you will find the moat at many points in the city since it is an endless wall. It is so deep and wide that you will wonder how on earth did those people build it for 6,500 kilometres in total length, with no tractors or cranes or modern equipment. It's just incredible.

Artistic rendition of 15th century Benin City showing the wall and streetlights, as described by Dutch and Portuguese visitors, who also described Benin City as one of the best planned and most beautiful cities in the world.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MorataFC: 7:02am On Sep 22, 2023
Four times longer than the wall of China?
Dey play

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 7:03am On Sep 22, 2023
MorataFC:
Four times longer than the wall of China?
Dey play

Go and argue with the Guinness Book of Records, 1974 edition, plus UK Guardian newspaper and Fred Pearce of the New Scientist magazine.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by SuperOnyi: 7:07am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


Incredible.

If you ask 100 Nigerians ''which city had streetlights first, London or Benin city'', 99 would say ''London of course'', and look at you as if you're mad for even asking the question.

Meanwhile Benin city not only had streetlights before London, but had them 300 years BEFORE London.





shocked



Our ancestors must be ashamed of us 😔.

I know some of our traditions wasn't good (just like it was in every culture in the world) but we believed in ourselves and would have been better than we were now.

I wonder what would have happened if we had the type of confidence people like the Chinese possess, that led them to develop at a faster pace.

Did we forget all these? What didn't our ancestors develop some system of writing that's popular in the south? A lot of questions not a lot of answers. If we had a system of writing, it would have been easier to regain our confidence since we can learn the exploits of our ancestors.

Now, we have to read a book by a European to know more about our ancestors 😔.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by JOemmy(m): 7:15am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


Spare me that BS. Obidients are not normal. They are hardcore tribalists for the most part. They don't believe in democratic choice, and made it their job to vilify, demonise and abuse political opponents and other candidates.

Virtually all of you call Tinubu a ''drug lord'' which is OUTRAGEOUS, since he has never been convicted of any offence.

That's called character assassination.

Is it a crime to run for president? How do you think his children and grandchildren feel when you call him dad a drug lord on social media? His own people in the west..how do you think they feel when you call their champion a drug lord?

Go and LEARN how to live among others, because right now, I consider you ignorant, filthy, repulsive scum of the Earth mirroring the similarly toxic, intolerant, authoritarian IPOB.


But tinibu and his media mob started it all have u forgotten so soon how tinibu himself used derogatory words during his campaign against obi and his supporters when he said they will labor to death? Or have you also forgotten how tinibu's media chief discribed obi as obituary in the nation newspaper which tinibu's online miscreants then started using to taunt obi and his supporters? Have you ever seen peter obi or any of his known media platforms using such inhuman derogatory words on his political opponents?

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 7:16am On Sep 22, 2023
SuperOnyi:


Our ancestors must be ashamed of us 😔.

I know some of our traditions wasn't good (just like it was in every culture in the world) but we believed in ourselves and would have been better than we were now.

I wonder what would have happened if we had the type of confidence people like the Chinese possess, that led them to develop at a faster pace.

Did we forget all these? What didn't our ancestors develop some system of writing that's popular in the south? A lot of questions not a lot of answers. If we had a system of writing, it would have been easier to regain our confidence since we can learn the exploits of our ancestors.

Now, we have to read a book by a European to know more about our ancestors 😔.

It wouldn't surprise me if they had a form of writing in Benin, at least for a small number of civil servants etc, because they had real administrative sophistication. At the very least, some could read and write Portuguese, such as a 16th century Oba whose name escapes me right now. Also, don't forget the British bombed and burnt down the ENTIRE CITY, and possibly killed off its educated class and burnt their written records if they had any.

British Artist's rendition of Benin City in 1846 showing multi-storeyed monuments and public buildings.

Now you know why the Brits were so desperate to burn down this city in 1897. They had to create the impression that all we built were mud huts in the village until they came to 'civilize' us. Their trick worked because if you go to Badagry in Lagos today, you will see one wretched colonial building from the 1920s which our Nigerian tour guide proudly presents to tourists as the ''first storey building in Nigeria''.

Our ignorance of our history is DISGUSTING AND DEPRESSING.

16th Century Benin City

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by SuperOnyi: 7:21am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:



shocked


Is this Benin? I keep wondering what would have happened if we continue to build our houses the same way our ancestors did. Our architecture would have been unique. I see most of these Caucasians insulting us for living in "mud house".

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MorataFC: 7:21am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


Go and argue with the Guinness Book of Records, 1974 edition.
Mr Man your writeup is watery, the length of the whole world is 40,000 km by length and the wall of Benin covers half of that, from Lagos to London is 5,020 km while the wall of Benin is 16,000 km long?
How is that even possible?

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 7:30am On Sep 22, 2023
MorataFC:
Mr Man your writeup is watery, the length of the whole world is 40,000 km by length and the wall of Benin covers half of that, from Lagos to London is 5,020 km while the wall of Benin is 16,000 km long?
How is that even possible?

It is not my write-up. Go and debate the experts who penned the report. Didn't you see the source of the links?

I no get time for your wahala abeg. The wall is not a straight round wall. It is more like a maze or labyrinth of walls and ramparts protecting the city as well as up to 500 interconnected towns and villages.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Christistruth00: 7:32am On Sep 22, 2023
The Sungbo Eredo Wall of Ijebu was built in the 9th Century and is more than 160km long
The Ijebus say it was even Commissioned by a Woman called Bilikisu Sungbo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=hFm7b2R76VHJdCM6

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MorataFC: 7:34am On Sep 22, 2023
poshestmina:
Wow!!! smiley

I missed educative threads like this on Nlnd.
Dont be misled all na wash

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Jokerman(m): 7:36am On Sep 22, 2023
MorataFC:
Mr Man your writeup is watery, the length of the whole world is 40,000 km by length and the wall of Benin covers half of that, from Lagos to London is 5,020 km while the wall of Benin is 16,000 km long?
How is that even possible?

Wikipedia

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 7:36am On Sep 22, 2023
SuperOnyi:


shocked


Is this Benin? I keep wondering what would have happened if we continue to build our houses the same way our ancestors did. Our architecture would have been unique. I see most of these Caucasians insulting us for living in "mud house".


There was an international regulation during colonial rule called Terra nova or something whereby international law dictated that a colonial power could only legally take over a foreign country if such country was barren and devoid of 'civilization'. So this requirement spurred the colonialists to burn and destroy all signs of urban development across Africa. Many cities were burnt down just to prove there was no civilization, to legitimize their seizing the territories.

Benin City was one such city, and they made sure they destroyed it and left nothing standing, including the great palace, in 1897.

Another beautiful, great city they destroyed was Mbanza Kongo in present day Rep of Congo.

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by maiunguwar: 7:38am On Sep 22, 2023
Ros sick the idiot

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MorataFC: 7:40am On Sep 22, 2023
Rossikk:


It is not my write-up. Go and debate the experts who penned the report. Didn't you see the source of the links?

I no get time for your wahala abeg. The wall is not a straight round wall. It is more like a maze or labyrinth of walls and ramparts protecting the city as well as up to 500 interconnected towns and villages.
then stop defending it

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by MorataFC: 7:42am On Sep 22, 2023
Jokerman:


Wikipedia
How many km from Lagos to Abuja?

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Re: Our Ancestors Built This Wall 600 Years Ago. Today We Would Pay CHINA To Do It. by Rossikk(m): 7:44am On Sep 22, 2023
MorataFC:
Dont be misled all na wash

Oh sure. We should just ignore all the historical accounts, eyewitness testimonies and images, and expert measurements by professionals, and listen to some idiot bushman with inferiority complex.

Not on this thread, dude. GET LOST.

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