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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 1:00pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
ANormalHuman: He always say others are not productive on nairaland. That we are all achieving nothing. Your response so far his over driving his madness and insanities peddling. He cannot stomach that you can within a short time unravel the kind of personality he is on nairaland and the lies and manipulations that goes on within his religious organization. He has to do everything in his path to redeem that damaged public relations of his image and that of his religious organization ![]() ![]() ![]() He comes to nairaland to look for honesthearted and sincere ones and within a short space of time he converts that same person to dishonesthearted and insincere one with his madness and insanities peddling ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by ANormalHuman: 1:17pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
achorladey: 😂 It's all good. Let me end it here, so I don't get addicted to this thread... I even happened to find out about his 3 minions that escort him to every thread and leave a like and a share on whatever he says, whenever possible so it looks like somebody is enjoying/understanding whatever he is typing (especially that one with a name that starts from C and and ends with Y). The other minion that has a name starting from 'A' is an expert in creating a conversation about their Organization and discussing random 'sweet' things about them openly, like he can't converse in private.. The last one is typically a 16 year old rambling loudspeaker that just echoes anything his master says... Jan0sky or whatever the name seems to be... Anyways, see you on another thread. 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:25pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
ANormalHuman: Did i know you for anywhere? NO! Did i quote you to chat with you? NO! Who first quoted between you and i trying to change the mindset of the other? YOU! So it's you who wanted to change my beliefs after reading my comments about Jehovah's Witnesses being the one and only organization practicing Christianity. Here is your comment again. ANormalHuman: So i don't know you and neither do i want to know you it's you who is trying to change my mind over what i believe! ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Courz: 2:22pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
ANormalHuman: Hahahahaha. In a short space of time, you have really known their antics well. Whenever Mad MaxInDHouse makes blunders in this forum, his fellow minions come to show their support. They all follow one another to every thread to advertise their Cult. 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Sand2022: 2:42pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Flip flop among the apostles? I mean moving from doctrine A to B and then returning to doctrine A? Where in the bible did you ever see such a thing among the apostles? Show me. 2. The few areas the apostles misunderstood Jesus words, they didn't say the holy spirit was gradually leading them to the truth. It was purely their imperfect human understanding. However, the JWs don't see it that way, they rather accuse the holy spirit for gradually taking them through one error to another. That's blasphemy. And don't forget the point being made. What Russell believed about the holy spirit was not caused by Christendom, neither was Christendom the architect of Pyramid of Gizeh, Bathsarim, 1925, 1914, 1975 etc. Now you're saying Jesus led you to those errors. Don't accuse Christendom. Thirdly, your leader Russell claimed that he did an independent search for truth aside from the creed of his time. He said he brings out a topic, then goes through all the scriptures to check what it says, then when they arrive at a conclusion consistent with the bible, they adopt it. Bros isn't that what you guys claim happened? So why are you saying that you're being led away from false teachings of Christendom again? The 6 bible students that met to research this matters, did any church send a representative to that group? Were they not the ones that reached their conclusions themselves? Guy wake up. You shouldn't accept any excuse they tell you. Think up. Let me give you example of flip flop; Russell believed that the Superior Authority was the Government (doctrine A). Christendom had arrived at that teaching long before then. Later, during Rutherford's reign, he now said that the Superior Authorities were only Jehovah and Jesus. (Doctrine B) Now your church teach that the Superior Authorities refer to the Governments (a return to Doctrine A) If that is an evidence of holy spirit leading, sorry for you. 5 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 3:42pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Courz: Na that stuff dey torment the lies and manipulations of MaxInDHouse ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He is lamenting how those they love to call honesthearted and sincere becomes Dishonesthearted and insincere as a result of his insanities and madness peddling ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 4:05pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Awon faceless people ![]() ![]() ![]() Go the length and breadth of nairaland looking for your coded honesthearted and sincere ones to convert with your lies and manipulations 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 4:07pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Sand2022: That's the definition of one line of thought people for you. They will come here to boast about one line of thought ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:28pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Sand2022: Perhaps you have forgotten that the Holy Spirit was sent to continue the work Jesus did among imperfect humans: "And I will ask the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever" John 14:16 Jesus is the PERFECT helper guiding IMPERFECT humans to do God's will so the Holy Spirit has come to replace him therefore don't think their understanding became perfect after the Holy Spirit came: "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially" 1Corinthians 13:9 Do you want to tell me that Apostle Paul don't know what he was saying in the above or the Holy Spirit has not come to teach them? ![]() it will only continue to guide them into all truth just as Jesus was CORRECTING them anytime they needed it. John 14:26-27 So what will be the EVIDENCE that God's Holy Spirit is working with them? They will be able to continue doing God's will despite their imperfection and errors because God's Holy Spirit is there with them guiding them always! Act 1:8 compare to Proverbs 24:16 That's why i keep asking you to present the group that's performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses if truly you know the WORK of God's Holy Spirit! ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 5:43pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You for tell us sey holy spirit is imperfect ![]() ![]() ![]() You will lie against the Holy spirit to peddle your insanities and madness. Do you want to tell me that Apostle Paul don't know what he was saying in the above or the Holy Spirit has not come to teach them? Insanities and madness peddling question. Paul is not in anyway in same class with your GODS Paul said be obedient to Governmental authorities Your GODS starting with Russell said same as Paul Another one of your GODS called Rutherford said it is about Jehovah and Jesus Same Rutherford change mouth again like you do here on nairaland that it means Governmental authorities "For we have partial knowledge and we prophesy partially" 1Corinthians 13:9 That is not called partial knowledge it is manipulations and lies to suit your organisation policies based on deciding whether your members can go to war or not go to war. Get that into your manipulated and lying brains. It was from there any member who choose to go to war on their own gets disassociation automatically ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:56pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Unah go cry tire! ![]() The first century apostles of Christ weren't perfect in their understanding yet despite their imperfection they continue doing God's will because God's Holy Spirit which is the helper Jesus promised was WORKING with them. That's the truth. So instead of contemplating on the blunders God's people committed what any studious individual needs to ascertain is the will of God in our time that's what Jesus said his faithful disciples will be able to do always he never said they will have perfect knowledge! ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:08pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Only FAITHFUL individuals will understand how God's people operates no FAITHLESS miscreant can grasp what is happening! Has God's people ever been perfect in their understanding of God's word? NO! The only PERFECT servant of God is Jesus of Nazareth because he is not ordinary human. As for all imperfect servants of our God from Abel till today none of them has perfect understanding of God's word but one thing is sure JEHOVAH always acknowledge His people for doing His will despite their imperfection. That's the HERITAGE of God's people as for our RIGHTEOUSNESS don't kill yourself it's from our God JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 6:43pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You go peddle cry tire over your GODS who are not inspired and are error ridden and filled. The lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains will be continually exposed as what it is. The first century apostles of Christ weren't perfect in their understanding yet despite their imperfection they continue doing God's will Liar and manipulator wants to change the narrative ![]() ![]() ![]() The first century apostles of Christ weren't perfect in their understanding yet despite their imperfection they continue doing God's will and didn't teach lies and manipulations as truth. They don't go about saying Jesus should be worshipped and later say Jesus should not be worshipped ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's the truth. Lies and manipulations to save the heads of your GODS from their lies and manipulations ![]() ![]() So instead of contemplating on the blunders God's people committed what any studious individual needs to ascertain is the will of God in our time that's what Jesus said his faithful disciples will be able to do always he never said they will have perfect knowledge! You know they are blunders filled yet you call it light getting brighter. You see the fraud you peddle here. What you call God's will based on Micah and Isaiah is equally a fraud not stated by your Jesus ![]() ![]() ![]() Your cry peddling must continue ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 6:51pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Only FAITHFUL individuals will understand how God's people operates no FAITHLESS miscreant can grasp what is happening! Your faithless miscreants peddling have been exposed repeatedly here you have even agreed up there that you peddle blunders everywhere ![]() ![]() ![]() Has God's people ever been perfect in their understanding of God's word? Nowhere were they peddling Z = A then say Z = B then say again Z =A. Those are the madness and insanities you come peddling here as imperfect understanding ![]() ![]() The only PERFECT servant of God is Jesus of Nazareth because he is not ordinary human. Your GODS are imperfect ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
The simplest case ever on this planet! ![]() Has God's people ever had PERFECT understanding of God's word? NO! Have they committed blunders in their understanding? SEVERALLY! So what makes them different from unbelievers? They are ever willing to comply with God's will once they're able to grasp it so JEHOVAH never condemn the faithful no matter their blunder so far they're ready to make amendments. WHY? Because God's people are imperfect just like all other descendants of Adam! As a father shows mercy to his SONS, Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him. For he well knows how WE are formed, Remembering that WE are dust. Psalms 103:13-14 Note that David didn't make this PERSONAL as he often does in other Psalms rather he was talking about God's people as ORGANIZED WORSHIPERS! ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:22pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
@ Sand2022 Hatred may blur the sense of judgement but it is wise to be open-minded in delicate cases like this! 1Thessalonians 5:21 compare to Act 17:11 What we found written in the Bible today were INSPIRED through God's Holy Spirit so it's not possible to find errors in what was inspired but regarding how the first century practiced Christianity YES they committed lots of blunders in understanding and applications {Act 15:1-5} but God's Holy Spirit was there to correct them that's why each time something goes wrong in the way they applied what they knew the Apostles comes together to pray over the matter so that God's Holy Spirit can direct them! Act 15:28-29 The GOVERNING BODY today weren't inspired like them so the same errors that happened in the first century due to imperfection cannot be avoided but one thing is sure: God's people are doing His will today globally as One big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by ANormalHuman: 8:04pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
achorladey: I wonder oo... Later he'll say I was the one trying to indoctrinate him, meanwhile I asked this same question that Sand2022 is asking... I noticed he started quoting scriptures and dropping his small advert at the end... I countered his scriptures, he left my explanation and the entire scriptures aside and started explaining a backstory that wasn't recorded in the Bible and still kept on advertising. Like mehn! Your salary must be really high, to the point that you can't discuss scriptures without planting subliminal messages that point us to your organization. 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 8:13pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
ANormalHuman: Na proper marketer of that better performing performance group that he himself said are sinners like every other christian denominations, influenced by the Devil and are filled with hypocrites whom MaxInDHouse said he look upon them with suspicious eyes ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 8:19pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: One verse of the Bible to put your lies and manipulations back into your madness and insanities peddling brains ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For he says to Moses: “I will show mercy to whomever I will show mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I will show compassion. You know what whomever means abi we need to delete some lies and manipulations from your brains to input meaning of whomever ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 8:27pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You go peddle cry tire after Sand2022. You are seriously begging him to come and buy into your lies and manipulations of which you already exposed as lies, manipulations and blunders ![]() ![]() ![]() The voice of Jesus equals the 9 GODS and they lack understanding of the inspired words contained in your Bible. You must keep peddling this lies and manipulations until you know the essence of your being a Jehovah’s witness ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Janosky: 11:59pm On Sep 30, 2023 |
Sand2022: Please look for the meaning of divinity and educate yourself. Divinity= a god, godlike.Screenshots evidence. John 1:1 the word Jesus was a god. Case closed. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Janosky: 12:20am On Oct 01, 2023 |
Sand2022:Is Charles Russell infallible? John 17:7, what did Jesus have that he did not receive? Jesus breathed holy spirit (given by his God) into the disciples, John 20:22. Jesus Christ did not breath a person into the disciples. Oga, are you learning something? ![]() Sand2022: Jehovah God will continue to REFORM, Readjust his Servants, 2 Corinthians 13:9,11. Jehovah readjusted prophet Samuel,1Sam3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6. Jehovah used Paul to readjust Corinthian brethrens, 1 Corinthians 15:12. 2 Cor13:9,11. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:49am On Oct 01, 2023 |
ANormalHuman: My faith is not about just quoting the Bible but also to direct whoever feels attracted to my comments to the one and only organization practicing what i'm explaining. So if you're not interested no one is forcing it on you go and worship the god you understand i am worshiping the God i understand and He is not interested in those you call INNOCENT rather what He cherishes is the FAITHFUL! I will continue to rub it on your face until you stop talking about me! ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:37am On Oct 01, 2023 |
Janosky: Mumu and no get sense peddling peddler keeps nailing himself, all your dictionary on divinity did not remove.... We affirm that the Word (Logos) was made flesh—became the Babe of Bethlehem—thus becoming the Man Jesus, ‘holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners.’ As we affirm the humanity of Jesus, we equally affirm the Divinity of Christ—‘God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name above every name.’ (Heb. 7:26; Phil. 2:9.) “We acknowledge that the personality of the Holy Spirit is the Father and the Son; that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both, and is manifested in all who receive the begetting of the Holy Spirit and thereby become sons of God. (John 1:12; 1 Pet. 1:3.)" Your mumu and no get sense peddling didn't remove the point expressed by Sand2022 ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:44am On Oct 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: My faith is not about just quoting the Bible but also to direct whoever feels attracted to my comments to the one and only organization practicing what i'm explaining. That's why we keep reminding you that your GODS the one and only organization are liars and manipulators and you come here to peddle such madness and insanities after you agreed that they commit blunders, they are not inspired, not infallible, error filled in doctrines and organization direction and ANormalHuman is not buying ![]() ![]() ![]() So if you're not interested no one is forcing it on you go and worship the god you understand i am worshiping the God i understand and He is not interested in those you call INNOCENT rather what He cherishes is the FAITHFUL! Madness and insanities peddling peddler will still be dragging the same Jesus with TRINITARIANS and still say his Jesus is not interested in INNOCENT ones but FAITHFUL. Liar and manipulator ![]() I will continue to rub it on your face until you stop talking about me The pains and torment will not go away soon. ANormalHuman will touch you for where the pains are really felt ![]() ![]() ![]() Madness and insanities peddling peddler, did ANormalHuman mention you? 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:47am On Oct 01, 2023 |
Janosky: Readjust and reform into lies and manipulations. The voice of Jesus equals your 9 GODS and Jesus needs his voice to be reformed and readjusted to suit your fraud of doctrines and organization direction. The many lies and manipulations packed into your no get sense and Mumu peddling brains ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by obonujoker(m): 10:47am On Oct 01, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: 🤣🤣🤣🤣 2 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by achorladey: 10:51am On Oct 01, 2023 |
obonujoker: You too saw the many lies and manipulations of the insanities peddling peddler on nairaland. Jesus corrected them to peddle more lies, madness, insanities and manipulations even prophesying falsehood in the name of God 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by obonujoker(m): 10:51am On Oct 01, 2023 |
achorladey: They are so funny 3 Likes |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Sand2022: 12:35pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Janosky: Your founder claimed that other christians were rejected because of false teaching, on what basis was Russell then chosen? If he is fallible, why act and attack other doctrines as if he is not fallible? You see the situation it has left him. He has become a false teacher he accuses others of.
Jehovah is not reforming your doctrines, that's the mistake you guys make. You are searching to understand the bible like other scholars do. Remove Jehovah from that so that you don't blaspheme. Flip flops that exist in your doctrines is just the evidence that Jehovah is not involved at all. Using your intellect to want to understand a scriptural point isn't wrong, that's what your org do, don't accuse God and His spirit. God doesn't reform and counter-reform someone. 1 Like |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Sand2022: 12:46pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
Janosky: You don't need to go far to understand what Russell meant. The word "divinity" in his article of faith has " ![]() Secondly, notice the "he" after that. The "h" is also in capital. |
Re: Charles Taze Russel Believed In The Divinity Of Christ. by Sand2022: 3:57pm On Oct 05, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You have not mentioned any flipflop by the apostles, neither have you shown them accusing the holy spirit for any wrong understanding like you guys do. Let me show you how your Founder Russell saw flipflop. He says: "If we were following a man undoubtedly it would be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as darkness now;… But with God there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from God must be like its author. A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New Light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it…" Zion's Watch Tower 1881 Feb pp.3,188 So your leader, whom you say God used above other church leaders says that the situation that your religion now found itself aka flipflop is an evidence of human followership. That for God, never can there be flipflop. I concur with your leader. Unfortunately, you now call the so called God ordained leader a false teacher. |
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