Maynman:

Whatever.

My personal text and signature

HellVictorinho6:
ke
AU dont know what i meant

Try again

Layman, go and learn what google does.

Aemmyjah:


Go and meet Papa

The demonic organization has turned you to mumu.

Maynman:

Layman, go and learn what google does.

Both u and google are mad

Ur dictionary sef dey craze

MightySparrow:


The demonic organization has turned you to mumu.

Ja pa
Ja pa

Ja lo cemetry

Kondogriyo kondo npai kondo kanda mi

If u wanna faya him, carri it on a shit.
Aikan dasi aikan ozop.

I know Maynman at konkpori.

HellVictorinho6:


Both u and google are mad

Ur dictionary sef dey craze

Illness lol

Maynman:

Illness lol

I detest ur praise

HellVictorinho6:


I detest ur praise

That's the ego.

Maynman:

That's the ego.

Stop acting gay

Am hopelezli strai8

U cant help moi

Till now
21 pages on a thread and counting
Atheists have not even addressed the OP
🤔

Ignorant theists 😂

HellVictorinho6:


Stop acting gay

Am hopelezli strai8

U cant help moi

How do gays act.

Straight people think of gay sex more than gay themselves

Aemmyjah:
Till now
21 pages on a thread and counting
Atheists have not even addressed the OP
🤔

Humans are human agents of drama or agents of nothing but purposeless twists and turns.


am both theist and atheist tho

Maynman:

How do gays act.

Straight people think of gay sex more than gay themselves

Ask jeff zebos

He can explain

HellVictorinho6:


Ask jeff zebos

He can explain

Why Jeff, straight man.

Maynman:

Why Jeff, straight man.

Nothing 4 me to explain

HellVictorinho6:




Nothing 4 me to explain

Okay, straight man.

LordReed
I'm waiting

Aemmyjah:
LordReed
I'm waiting

Still writing.

Aemmyjah:

3. Prophecy : No man can foretell the future... Even weather forecast of the next few hours may be wrong. The biggest evidence that the Bible was inspired is in its prophecy which were pronounced several decades and centuries but now fulfilled in EXACT details... Did you know that about 200 years in advance, a man prophecied that a world power will invade and destroy his own nation and take many into captivity and later that same worldpower would be overthrown by a man named Cyrus, without a battle? It even add that's this worldpower, on the night of its overthrow will carelessly leave their doors open, creating chance for the overthrow and the deep moat that surrounded the nation as a protection will go down? And that later, this worldpower will be destroyed and no human will inhabit it forever? The prophecy was fulfilled and secular history confirms it. Babylon invaded and destroyed Jerusalem, Babylon was overthrown by Cyrus without a battle, he diverted the waters surrounding the city to gain access inside and the doors were left open due to the revelry of people of the city. Today, Babylon is in ruins and unlivable. It is like someone saying that Washington DC or Beijing or Moscow will destroy Libya and that same worldpower be destroyed by LordReed (whose father was not even born) and LordReed will remove the city's natural defence, overthrow the government just like that and that Washington will later be destroyed and unlivable... Only by divine inspiration could such prediction have happened... Another prophet predicted the fall of Nineveh and it's total destruction. This happened so much that critics said that Nineveh never existed. Today, only tiny remains have been excavated by archeologist confirming the city as once the capital of the Assyrian world power
Did you know that, when Daniel lived (Babylon was world power). He predicted who the next world power would be? MedoPersia, then Greece (he even mentioned how great the king of Greece would be and his exploits but he'll die young and his kingdom won't go to his children but divided into 4 parts. That was true of Alexander the great), after Greece would be Rome (and that during the Roman worldpower is when the Messiah, Christ will come but he will be killed and Jerusalem will be destroyed). He also foretold that Rome will be divided into nations but the tiniest, insignificant nations will defeat three nations far greater and powerful than itself and it will become great and a dual worldpower but this worldpower will not be strong unlike other previous worldpowers due to the influence of the common people. Rome became divided. Britain was the smallest and insignificant but it destroyed Netherlands, Spain and France to become top and greatest empire but during the worldpower, it joined with USA to form what we call the Anglo-American worldpower which we have today but Anglo-American is not even strong due to the influence of the people as they tend to protest, revolution, insurrections, take the government to court, their democracy is even divided as we can see today, who is that man or group that would have done these when Babylon, MedoPersia, Greece, Rome were worldpower? The result will be fatal. The Bible mentions the name of the government that will destroy the Anglo-American worldpower. It will destroy it and every human government and be the sole government ruling forever, bringing about real peace and justice. If what the Bible says about successive worldpower has been fulfilled, it is foolish to deny that Anglo-American will be destroyed and we'll have a sole, world government... I did not even mention Jesus' prophecy of our time. He foretold that world condition and people attitude will be bad and our planet will be ruined by mankind - a time of wars, earthquakes, food shortages, epidemics and fearful sights. He said that about 2000 years ago. If you'd asked someone just 100 or 200 years ago about how life would be today, the prediction was that thing will be better. Remember vision 2020. 2020 came and it was completely out of what we expected

Time to address this point.

The thing with Bible based prophecy is that it is highly subject to whoever is interpreting the words. A Jew will not accept that the prophecies of the coming messiah were fulfilled in the Christian Jesus, because that narrative doesn't fit his perspective of the prophecy. The JW are a prime example of this high level of subjectivity with regards to Bible based prophecy. Their revision of Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's Kingdom, from 1878 to 1881 to 1914 to 1918 and then 1925. They have now put the date into an indefinite state which of course is again open to interpretation. With this in mind it is not hard to see why anyone who believes in the Bible and its so-called prophecies could not easily interpret those prophecies to their own understanding. Aemmyjah here says the prophecies were fulfilled to exact detail. Really? Let's see.

He claims Cyrus conquered Babylon without a fight, not true. Cyrus defeated the Babylonian army at the battle of Opis. It was after the battle that they surrendered. Some accounts do state that the city was besieged but it's debatable but that there was no battle at all is not correct. Was there even a prophecy in the first place? Unlikely since Isaiah 40-55 (which contains the references to Cyrus) was written DURING the Hebrew exile not the 150 years before being claimed.

After Nineveh's fall during its height as the capital of the Assyrian Empire it continued to be occupied and was even the seat of a Christian bishop up to the 13th century so I dunno where Aemmyjah got the idea that Nineveh was denied to be real. Meanwhile this destroys the so-called detailed prophecy that Nineveh would be unoccupied because even today parts of the ancient city have been absorbed into Mosul, Iraq.

I loved the so-called prophecy of Daniel that says Babylon would be or was the greatest kingdom. In what way was Babylon the greatest? It is not the greatest in wealth, not the greatest in territories held, not the greatest in military conquests or battles won. Kindly tell us how that detail was fulfilled.

As to the other kingdoms, let's start with Alexander the Great and the Macedonian empire. The claim is that the leopard represents Alexander and the divided empire after his death, except Alexander did not use a leopard as a symbol rather he used snakes and the head of Medusa as his symbols. The empire didn't break into 4 pieces; rather there were multiple contenders and kingdoms that coalesced into 3 power blocs: the Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Syria and East, and Antigonid Macedonia. Also nowhere in the so-called prophecy does it say that Alexander the Great would die young, mention the verse if there is.

Now the claim is that it would be under the Roman Empire that Christ will come, well the Roman Empire has been gone for centuries now. The claim that the British Empire and the current American Hegemony are an extension of the Roman empire are nothing but laughable ideas. It would be similar to claiming that the Macedonian Empire is a continuation of the Persian Empire because the Macedonians defeated the Persians and took over their territories. When the Roman Empire fell in Europe they already knew they could no longer support their rule in Britain so they pulled out their troops and then the Anglo Saxons invaded and took over Britain. So tell me how people from a completely different cultural group are now an extension of another completely separate group?

Does the world right now remotely resemble one that is being run by a single government? With European Union increasingly calling to themselves to straighten their internal ties and rely less on the US, with Britain leaving the EU, with China creating its own hegemony, with Russia trying to regain its former hegemonic glory, all of it very clearly indicates that there is no such Anglo-American hold on the world so where is this so-called Anglo-American world power that is to be destroyed?

Jesus’ so-called prophecy is like prophesying that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west. Can anybody mention a time in history where any of these occurrences ceased? There is no century in recorded human history in which wars, battles and conflicts were not recorded. Same thing with food shortages, epidemics and so called fearful sights. What are even fearful sights? Almost any poorly understood phenomenon can be called a fearful sight. Also the Bible doesn’t even say that Jesus prophesied that these things would increase, quote the verse where it says there'll be an increase if you disagree.

All these so-called prophecies and details are only compelling when you ignore a lot of the detail that doesn’t fit your narrative and finagles the one that seems to fit so you can construct a narrative..

LordReed:


Time to address this point.

The thing with Bible base prophecy is that it is highly subject to whoever is interpreting the words. A Jew will not accept that the prophecies of the coming messiah were fulfilled in the Christian Jesus, because that narrative doesn't fit his perspective of the prophecy. The JW are a prime example of this high level of subjectivity with regards to Bible based prophecy. Their revision of Christ's Second Coming and the advent of God's Kingdom, from 1878 to 1881 to 1914 to 1918 and then 1925. They have now put the date into an indefinite state which of course is again open to interpretation. With this in mind it is not hard to see why anyone who believes in the Bible and its so-called prophecies could not easily interpret those prophecies to their own understanding. Aemmyjah here says the prophecies were fulfilled to exact detail. Really? Let's see.

He claims Cyrus conquered Babylon without a fight, not true. Cyrus defeated the Babylonian army at the battle of Opis. It was after the battle that they surrendered. Some accounts do state that the city was besieged but it's debatable but that there was no battle at all is not correct. Was there even a prophecy in the first place? Unlikely since Isaiah 40-55 (which contains the references to Cyrus) was written DURING the Hebrew exile not the 150 years before being claimed.

After Nineveh's fall during its height as the capital of the Assyrian Empire it continued to be occupied and was even the seat of a Christian bishop up to the 13th century so I dunno where Aemmyjah got the idea that Nineveh was denied to be real. Meanwhile this destroys the so-called detailed prophecy that Nineveh would be unoccupied because even today parts of the ancient city have been absorbed into Mosul, Iraq.

I loved the so-called prophecy of Daniel that says Babylon would be or was the greatest kingdom. In what way was Babylon the greatest? It is not the greatest in wealth, not the greatest in territories held, not the greatest in military conquests or battles won. Kindly tell us how that detail was fulfilled.

As to the other kingdoms, let's start with Alexander the Great and the Macedonian empire. The claim is that the leopard represents Alexander and the divided empire after his death, except Alexander did not use a leopard as a symbol rather he used snakes and the head of Medusa as his symbols. The empire didn't break into 4 pieces; rather there were multiple contenders and kingdoms that coalesced into 3 power blocs: the Ptolemaic Egypt, Seleucid Syria and East, and Antigonid Macedonia. Also nowhere in the so-called prophecy does it say that Alexander the Great would die young, mention the verse if there is.

Now the claim is that it would be under the Roman Empire that Christ will come, well the Roman Empire has been gone for centuries now. The claim that the British Empire and the current American Hegemony are an extension of the Roman empire are nothing but laughable ideas. It would be similar to claiming that the Macedonian Empire is a continuation of the Persian Empire because the Macedonians defeated the Persians and took over their territories. When the Roman Empire fell in Europe they already knew they could no longer support their rule in Britain so they pulled out their troops and then the Anglo Saxons invaded and took over Britain. So tell me how people from a completely different cultural group are now an extension of another completely separate group?

Does the world right now remotely resemble one that is being run by a single government? With European Union increasingly calling to themselves to straighten their internal ties and rely less on the US, with Britain leaving the EU, with China creating its own hegemony, with Russia trying to regain its former hegemonic glory, all of it very clearly indicates that there is no such Anglo-American hold on the world so where is this so-called Anglo-American world power that is to be destroyed?

Jesus’ so-called prophecy is like prophesying that the sun will rise in the east and set in the west. Can anybody mention a time in history where any of these occurrences ceased? There is no century in recorded human history in which wars, battles and conflicts were not recorded. Same thing with food shortages, epidemics and so called fearful sights. What are even fearful sights? Almost any poorly understood phenomenon can be called a fearful sight. Also the Bible doesn’t even say that Jesus prophesied that these things would increase, quote the verse where it says there be an increase if you disagree.

All these so-called prophecies and details are only compelling when you ignore a lot of the detail that doesn’t fit your narrative and finagles the one that seems to fit so you can construct a narrative..

I'm on a journey to PH
I'll respond
Only God knows where you see the nonsense you wrote regarding Isaiah, except from fake articles (which you'll surely consult). It is well recorded that Isaiah was a prophet in the 8th century. We cannot be surprised if you or any other critic say he lived around the time of Cyrus since you are all blind. Isaiah is not the first person either to prophesy about the name of a person, and what he'll do, years in advance. To your own shame... If a Jew does not accept that Jesus is the foretold Messiah does not make the Bible invalid just as many atheist say Jesus never existed, is that your own point?
Your claims about Cyrus is very silly and shows the height of your negative thinking and ignorance... Such a shame, I was really expecting you to do research... I am sure that you saw that what I wrote was the truth but kept finding religious propaganda till you found one. Battle of Opis kor, Battle of Opay nii
I can't recall where I read where some people once dismissed Ninevah existence but was the prophecy about her overthrow amd total destruction also a coincidence or it was written at that time and forwarded to an ancient timing? How did Jeremiah know that the notorious Ninevah will be destroyed and uninhabited? Did he write his book when it was destroyed?
Olodo, is the city of Ninevah (in Northern Iraq) still being occupied today? The answer is No. It was destroyed and not been occupied since, why not go there to see for yourself?

Babylon was the greatest kingdom in it's own time just as there was a time when Rome was the greatest empire, Greece And Britain were the greatest in their own time... Don't ignore that one of the 7 ancient wonders of the world was in Babylon too and had the greatest defense .. Keep reading junkie, poor critic. Who would want to go and attack Babylon of old? You can only access the city by boat, they will just close their high gates and shoot their arrows at you from their walls. Powerful nation
Alexander's death was sudden and his empire disintegrated into a 40-year period of war and chaos in 321 BCE. The Hellenistic world eventually settled into four stable power blocks: the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt, the Seleucid Empire in the east, the Kingdom of Pergamon in Asia Minor, and Macedon... Why not go and read for yourself the book of Daniel, you'll see where Daniel stated that his kingdom will not go to any of his descendants and that Alexander will not even last as a world ruler... Do you want to tell us that Daniel was a Jew in Alexander time? ... The Bible used a leopard to describe Alexander and that makes sense cos that animal is very swift just as Alexander rise to world power and Daniel used animals that walked on four legs... Whether Alexander worshipped snakes or birds is irrelevant

Which empire was ruling as worldpower when Jesus came? It even makes sense since you don't doubt Jesus existence and that critics call him a character forged by the Romans even adds more evidence. Did Daniel exist in Jesus day?

Did you not read what I wrote about Britain and how it fulfilled the prophecy that it will defeat 3 kingdoms to become great? What have you got to say about that. Abi na lie? Anglo-American are the current world powers and I wrote that their influence will be greatly weakened and that is what we see today. Daniel even wrote that this worldpower will face constant 'pushing' by rivals and that is what we are seeing. We had the German empire, the Soviet union and now, Russia and allies... I deliberately hid that, now you've simply added to fulfill what was written beforehand. Thank you.

What we have today is not battles but wars as Jesus said and not just battles between armies of 2 or more nations and the first world war happened in 1914. ... Jesus did not isolate events but gave a composite sign that will be held. Mention that century that all these things were being experienced all over the world at the same time including the preaching of the goodnews of the kingdom, the increase in lawlessness, blasphemy, FALSE CHRISTS, hatred, betrayals, fearful anticipation of the future, food shortages, earthquakes in one place after another, epidemics, ruining of the earth . Which century? Tell us... Even our climate change has caused fearful sights from rising sea levels, floods, droughts, crop failures, pest increase. We live in fear, everything is fear. We hear of nuclear or nuclear Armageddon which makes politicians and scientists give fearful prediction. Doomsday everywhere... Bible said these things will increase. Are they not increasing? Is moral decay not increasing? Is hatred and food shortages not increasing? Is blasphemy not increasing? Is fearful news not increasing? Are wars not increasing? Are reports or rumors of wars not increasing?
Who will have predicted these 2000 years ago? If you had asked someone that lived 2 or 3 centuries ago to predict world conditions and people's attitude, they would have said things will get better

Abeg, go and rest. You have nothing meaningful say or contribute ever since you and other mad atheists join the religious forum in NL and your posts amd comments reflect people with no sense of purpose or meaning. You just came here to find relevance to meaningless philosophy

Aemmyjah:


I'm on a journey to PH
I'll respond
Only God knows where you see the nonsense you wrote regarding Isaiah, except from fake articles (which you'll surely consult). It is well recorded that Isaiah was a prophet in the 8th century. We cannot be surprised if you or any other critic say he lived around the time of Cyrus since you are all blind. Isaiah is not the first person either to prophesy about the name of a person, and what he'll do, years in advance. To your own shame... If a Jew does not accept that Jesus is the foretold Messiah does not make the Bible invalid just as many atheist say Jesus never existed, is that your own point?
Your claims about Cyrus is very silly and shows the height of your negative thinking and ignorance... Such a shame, I was really expecting you to do research... I am sure that you saw that what I wrote was the truth but kept finding religious propaganda till you found one. Battle of Opis kor, Battle of Opay nii
I can't recall where I read where some people once dismissed Ninevah existence but was the prophecy about her overthrow amd total destruction also a coincidence or it was written at that time and forwarded to an ancient timing? How did Jeremiah know that the notorious Ninevah will be destroyed and uninhabited? Did he write his book when it was destroyed?
Olodo, is the city of Ninevah (in Northern Iraq) still being occupied today? The answer is No. It was destroyed and not been occupied since, why not go there to see for yourself?

Babylon was the greatest kingdom in it's own time just as there was a time when Rome was the greatest empire, Greece And Britain were the greatest in their own time... Don't ignore that one of the 7 ancient wonders of the world was in Babylon too and had the greatest defense .. Keep reading junkie, poor critic. Who would want to go and attack Babylon of old? You can only access the city by boat, they will just close their high gates and shoot their arrows at you from their walls. Powerful nation
Alexander's death was sudden and his empire disintegrated into a 40-year period of war and chaos in 321 BCE. The Hellenistic world eventually settled into four stable power blocks: the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt, the Seleucid Empire in the east, the Kingdom of Pergamon in Asia Minor, and Macedon... Why not go and read for yourself the book of Daniel, you'll see where Daniel stated that his kingdom will not go to any of his descendants and that Alexander will not even last as a world ruler... Do you want to tell us that Daniel was a Jew in Alexander time? ... The Bible used a leopard to describe Alexander and that makes sense cos that animal is very swift just as Alexander rise to world power and Daniel used animals that walked on four legs... Whether Alexander worshipped snakes or birds is irrelevant

Which empire was ruling as worldpower when Jesus came? It even makes sense since you don't doubt Jesus existence and that critics call him a character forged by the Romans even adds more evidence. Did Daniel exist in Jesus day?

Did you not read what I wrote about Britain and how it fulfilled the prophecy that it will defeat 3 kingdoms to become great? What have you got to say about that. Abi na lie? Anglo-American are the current world powers and I wrote that their influence will be greatly weakened and that is what we see today. Daniel even wrote that this worldpower will face constant 'pushing' by rivals and that is what we are seeing. We had the German empire, the Soviet union and now, Russia and allies... I deliberately hid that, now you've simply added to fulfill what was written beforehand. Thank you.

What we have today is not battles but wars as Jesus said and not just battles between armies of 2 or more nations and the first world war happened in 1914. ... Jesus did not isolate events but gave a composite sign that will be held. Mention that century that all these things were being experienced all over the world at the same time including the preaching of the goodnews of the kingdom, the increase in lawlessness, blasphemy, FALSE CHRISTS, hatred, betrayals, fearful anticipation of the future, food shortages, earthquakes in one place after another, epidemics, ruining of the earth . Which century? Tell us... Even our climate change has caused fearful sights from rising sea levels, floods, droughts, crop failures, pest increase. We live in fear, everything is fear. We hear of nuclear or nuclear Armageddon which makes politicians and scientists give fearful prediction. Doomsday everywhere... Bible said these things will increase. Are they not increasing? Is moral decay not increasing? Is hatred and food shortages not increasing? Is blasphemy not increasing? Is fearful news not increasing? Are wars not increasing? Are reports or rumors of wars not increasing?
Who will have predicted these 2000 years ago? If you had asked someone that lived 2 or 3 centuries ago to predict world conditions and people's attitude, they would have said things will get better

Abeg, go and rest. You have nothing meaningful say or contribute ever since you and other mad atheists join the religious forum in NL and your posts amd comments reflect people with no sense of purpose or meaning. You just came here to find relevance to meaningless philosophy

Lmao, Lordreed you are conversing with a madman. I love how he calls you “olodo” even though you didn’t insult him but tear his claims apart.

Aemmyjah:


I'm on a journey to PH
I'll respond
Only God knows where you see the nonsense you wrote regarding Isaiah, except from fake articles (which you'll surely consult). It is well recorded that Isaiah was a prophet in the 8th century.

We are waiting.

Maynman:

We are waiting.

😂
Why do you hide the source of that article?
You're quoting from one unknown source as you do... I thought you guys say Bible na myth...
SIRTee15, pls one dose is needed this morning

Aemmyjah:


😂
Why do you hide the source of that article?
You're quoting from one unknown source as you do... I thought you guys say Bible na myth...
SIRTee15, pls one dose is needed this morning

Hide what source?
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/isaiah-book
This is a common fact EVERYWHERE

KnownUnknown:


Lmao, Lordreed you are conversing with a madman. I love how he calls you “olodo” even though you didn’t insult him but tear his claims apart.

LoLZ. I told him he will again loose his ablity to quote Bible verses and look no Bible verses in his response. I guess I am a prophet. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Maynman:

Hide what source?
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/isaiah-book
This is a common fact EVERYWHERE

If you like
You just keep shooting yourself in the head to discredit people you think were myths
Not my problem sha. Same you were tirelessly looking for articles on your argument on aroma and smoke
You go search tire... Have you not seen hydroIsaiah and chloroIsaiah.
Kwantinue
Very interesting that lazy critics will even disturb themselves over certain chapters of a book written about 2700 years ago. Why do I have to read their balablu?

Maynman:

Hide what source?
https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/isaiah-book
This is a common fact EVERYWHERE

You think JW.org will let them know this kind of information? LMFAO!

Aemmyjah:


If you like
You just keep shooting yourself in the head to discredit people you think were myths
Not my problem sha. Same you were tirelessly looking for articles on your argument on aroma and smoke
You go search tire... Have you not seen hydroIsaiah and chloroIsaiah.
Kwantinue
Very interesting that lazy critics will even disturb themselves over certain chapters of a book written about 2700 years ago. Why do I have to read their balablu?

Is that all you got ? 😂😂😂

Call your fellow Jewish slave for help.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/isaiah-book

LordReed:


You think JW.org will let them know this kind of information? LMFAO!

😂

Maynman:

Is that all you got ? 😂😂😂

Call your fellow slave for help.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/isaiah-book

Jewish history confirms the person of Isaiah
Also the Koran
We know the mindset of negative minded people and where they go
What concerns me with someone that does not understand what is smoke and what is aroma?

LordReed:


LoLZ. I told him he will again loose his ablity to quote Bible verses and look no Bible verses in his response. I guess I am a prophet. Bwahahahahahahaha!

😂
I did not quote verses
How did you know they were in the Bible and I was not fabricating it but you responded?
De play
Intelligent ignorant critic