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Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:06pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Does God Exist? The Bible’s answer Yes, the Bible provides compelling evidence that God exists. It encourages us to build faith in God, not by blindly believing religious assertions, but by using our “power of reason” and “mental perception.” (Romans 12:1; 1 John 5:20, footnote) Consider the following lines of reasoning based on the Bible: 1. The existence of an orderly universe containing life points to a Creator. The Bible says: “Of course, every house is constructed by someone, but the one who constructed all things is God.” (Hebrews 3:4) Although this logic is simple, many well-educated people find it to be powerful. For example, the late astronomer Allan Sandage once said regarding the universe: “I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing.” 2. As humans, we have an innate desire to understand the meaning and purpose of life, a type of hunger that can remain after our physical needs have been met. This is part of what the Bible calls our “spiritual need,” which includes the desire to know and worship God. (Matthew 5:3; Revelation 4:11) This spiritual need not only gives evidence that God exists but also indicates that he is a loving Creator who wants us to satisfy that need.—Matthew 4:4. 3. Detailed prophecies in the Bible were written centuries ahead of time and came true exactly as predicted. The accuracy and detail of those predictions strongly suggest that they came from a superhuman source.—2 Peter 1:21. 4. Bible writers had scientific knowledge that was beyond the understanding of their contemporaries. For example, in ancient times many peoples believed that the earth was supported by an animal, such as an elephant, a boar, or an ox. In contrast, the Bible says that God is “suspending the earth upon nothing.” (Job 26:7) Similarly, the Bible correctly describes the shape of the earth as a “sphere,” or “globe.” (Isaiah 40:22, footnote; Douay Version) Many people feel that the most reasonable explanation for such advanced understanding is that Bible writers received their information from God. 5. The Bible answers many difficult questions, the type of questions that when not satisfactorily answered can lead a person to atheism. For example: If God is loving and all-powerful, why is there suffering and evil in the world? Why is religion so often an influence for bad rather than for good?—Titus 1:16. ***For example, the late astronomer Allan Sandage once said regarding the universe: “I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery, but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing.” ©https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/does-god-exist/ 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Xxxxtentacion2: 3:37pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
NO he does'nt 4 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:53pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2: You are not the only one who feel that way I think I gave 4 points What are your own evidence? |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 3:53pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Does Ikemefuna exist? Yes. China Achebe's Things Fall Apart provides written evidence that Ikemefuna was made to live with Okonkwo who later chopped off Ikemefuna's head. In the same book, the tortoise named himself All of Us, so only he could eat the banquet provided by the gods. 7 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:55pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: Common sense tell all that Ikemefuna, Okonkwo and that tortoise story is just fiction 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 4:02pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Pity the same common sense knows nothing about the Bible, or perhaps it's because black man wrote about Ikemefuna and white wrote the Bible? You'd need more than sense that is common to dig deep enough to know, I guess. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:20pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: Even before the Bible came Even in places where people have never heard or seen a Bible They give credit and worship to one who they were convinced was the maker of the universe, life and the earth... Evidence number 2 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Xxxxtentacion2: 4:22pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:the existence of suffering in the world 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:40pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2: So when a person throws himself into fire and suffers burns it means his parents do not exist right? What a logic. |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 4:41pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: That's true. In Yoruba land before the Bible, Obatala made the universe and created life and the earth. In ancient Greece, Hesiod, in his Theogony begins with Chaos, a yawning nothingness out of which emerged Gaia (the Earth) and some other primary divine beings: Eros (Love), the Abyss (the Tartarus), and the Erebus. The Koreans claim the world was created by the god Mireuk. While the Chinese say in the beginning was a huge egg containing chaos, a mixture of yin and yang — female-male, aggressive-passive, cold-hot, dark-light, and wet-dry. Within this yin and yang was Pan Gu, who broke forth from the egg as the giant who separated chaos into the many opposites, including Earth and sky. Ancient Egypt claims that in the beginning, only a chaotic water existed called Nun. The sun god Ra appeared from a lotus flower and gave light to the universe. Ra created Shu, the air god, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture. Those two gave birth to the sky goddess Nut and the earth god Geb. From them, the physical universe was formed. The Celts claim that Once upon a time, there was no time and that was when there also was no gods and no man walked the surface of the land. But there was the sea, and where the sea met the land, a mare was born, white and made of sea-foam. And her name was Eiocha.” Today, some claim a big bang done it in fact, though those who claim so don't tend to worship the bang. So yes, people everywhere gave credit and worship to one who they were convinced was the maker of the universe, life and the earth. Just that people everywhere gave that credit to the gods they believe in just like you do, since all the gods could not have created the same universe and life and the earth in the various diverse ways we are told they created. And some have learnt from all the myths and grown past that baby stage of believing. Ref: https://list25.com/25-creation-stories-from-around-the-world/ https://theapeiron.co.uk/4-bizarre-creation-myths-that-will-make-you-question-the-origin-of-humans-114400f1c418 https://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-folklore/celtic-creation-sea-foam-placenta-birth-universe-009635 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:41pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2: Wishfull thinking |
Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:49pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: In otherwords people recognise that a Greater Being owns and created the world, even if children of devils refuse to acknowledge Him like stupid tenants to their Land Lord. |
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 4:49pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
What is a god? 3 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 4:53pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Actually, people think and they believe and do not bother considering the available evidence, which shows no evidence of a creator apart from those created by their fellow human beings. |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:56pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: The summary of your points is that people gave credit to someone regarding the origin of the universe and almost every part of the world even though there are many differences as to who that one is. You therefore contradict yourself on what you first said that God does not exist. Your argument is pointless. Try again |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 4:58pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2: True Many people feel that way But, logically, that's not really an evidence that God does not exist. That's a kind of different question entirely, a moral question which I'll address later. If you enter a hostel or a house where the tap is bad, people are fighting and food is poor and insufficient and everywhere is overcrowded and weeds are everywhere. Will you say that that house had no builder? |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:00pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 5:06pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: What evidence is there that life and earth arose by chaos? I have eyes. It was designed for sight I have a brain I have ears, hands fingers, systems and organs and cells with their diverse functions and design but they work harmoniously. Who made them? A doll may have eyes, head ears, hands, belly button 😂 but they don't even work. Yet, no one says dolls could emerge from nowhere. Hiw much the complex cell, tissue, organs, body, earth, universe? It takes more 'faith' that all these things could emerge by chance. That kind of 'faith' is called mumu faith. The type that a poor man in a jungle of Africa would think can happen when he keeps a clay pot under his bed and expect it to be filled with dollar coins overnight. It won't happen overnight or even in a thousand years but that imagination is more reasonable and possible than to imagine life emerging by chance 😕 3 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:21pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: As they may choose to think in ignoring the clear and obvious evidence and fact that no thing in this world is capable of creating itself including themselves were not even able to create themselves and place themselves in the best places in the earth instead of the bad places like they say Nigeria is. |
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 5:32pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: LoLz. A thing that cannot be properly articulated in a meaningful way. I don't blame you for not answering at all. Bwahahahahaha! 3 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by Xxxxtentacion2: 5:38pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:God and a builder don't have thesame characteristics so it is illogical to compare both of them. moreover if they is something wrong with the hostel it is the responsibility of the hostel admin not the builder of the house. 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:44pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: I guess the logical question to ask you then is, who created your god? Unless you want to of course claim your god is not on earth, to wit, where exactly is this god of yours? 2 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:49pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: None whatsoever, unless you limit yourself to believing any one myth, since your book says the earth was formless and void and in a state of chaos before your god organised the said chaos.
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Re: Does God Exist? by budaatum: 5:50pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Are you suggesting that all the gods in all those myths and stories existed too? 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:16pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: Did I say that? That people in all cultures and parts of the world give worship or devotion to someone or something gives evidence to a reality that God exists. Read my second point again on spiritual need 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:17pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
budaatum: What does evolution says regarding the origin of the earth? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:18pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2:Cause and effect You see a house. That is an effect of a Cause that someone built it. A house cannot be the cause if it's own existence How much more the universe? The universe is an effect of an intelligent, superior Cause, Jehovah God 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:20pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
LordReed: I don't blame you too Last time we conversed, u acted like someone who's imagination is in a cement mixer - lost... That's all you do Offering no meaningful explanation to life and the future All you do is ask stupid questions and beg for critics view on some subjects. You're only here to seek relevance that your 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 6:25pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Bwahahahahaha! When did you and I discuss life and the future? Are you hallucinating? Seek relevance? From you? You really are hallucinating. LMFAO! BTW you didn't answer the question, only to become salty for nothing. Bwahahahahaha! |
Re: Does God Exist? by Xxxxtentacion2: 6:29pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:a house does not have a single builder it takes many workers to build a house... My take is the cause of the universe is not God its something else... something we dont know we yet. the jehovah God as described in the bible is a fictitous character that does not exist.. 2 Likes |
Re: Does God Exist? by Xxxxtentacion2: 6:34pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:if the parents were alive they wont allow their son throw himself into fire.. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Does God Exist? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:39pm On Oct 27, 2023 |
Xxxxtentacion2: And that something does not want himself to be known right? 1 Like |
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