...last.

Lurker4Long:

You have an interesting definition of genocide. And take that whataboutism elsewhere.

His question has some creedence to it and “whataboutism” is losing whatever meaning it had by the day. To many Israel is considered an apartheid state so naturally many modern South Africans & Africans in general are against it naturally. There also those African who choose there “side” based solely on faith.

It just amazes me how passionate Africans will come out and hit the Streets to fight for foreign factions who ultimately near equally couldn’t give a $hit about Africans and there plights.

But Africans will not bring that same level of continent wide furiosity to local regional problems?

If the conflicted ended today and Nigeria invaded Ghana tomorrow killing every Ghanaian in sight ain’t no Israeli & Palestinian giving a $hit. And you can say the exact same thing regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

AskiaHarem:


His question has some creedence to it and “whataboutism” is losing whatever meaning it had by the day. To many Israel is considered an apartheid state so naturally many modern South Africans & Africans in general are against it naturally. There also those African who choose there “side” based solely on faith.

It just amazes me how passionate Africans will come out and hit the Streets to fight for foreign factions who ultimately near equally couldn’t give a $hit about Africans and there plights.

But Africans will not bring that same level of continent wide furiosity to local regional problems?

If the conflicted ended today and Nigeria invaded Ghana tomorrow killing every Ghanaian in sight ain’t no Israeli & Palestinian giving a $hit. And you can say the exact same thing regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

I wouldn't dare presume to know what "Africans" think, but for us South Africans, Israel/Palestine is not some distant foreign issue. From Jan Smuts being an advisor to Balfour and his Balfour Declaration to youngsters dying serving in the IDF, or as humanitarians in Gaza & West Bank, it's always been very much a domestic and personal issue.
Just 1 example of many: the internal debate in the SA Jewish community, as reflected in this statement by SA Jews for a Free Palestine.

The Nigerian Air Force has taken delivery of at least 1 of 2 Beechcraft King Air 360ER (Reg: NAF 205).

Aircrafts will be converted for ISR role.

Lurker4Long:

I wouldn't dare presume to know what "Africans" think, but for us South Africans, Israel/Palestine is not some distant foreign issue. From Jan Smuts being an advisor to Balfour and his Balfour Declaration to youngsters dying serving in the IDF, or as humanitarians in Gaza & West Bank, it's always been very much a domestic and personal issue.
Just 1 example of many: the internal debate in the SA Jewish community, as reflected in this statement by SA Jews for a Free Palestine.

So, why don't you create a thread for that.

The Israel-Palestine issue is not an African problem, it is not a Nigerian problem.

There are a myriad of problems facing the African continent, concentrate on that, besides this thread is about African militaries, Not palestine issue.

AskiaHarem:


His question has some creedence to it and “whataboutism” is losing whatever meaning it had by the day. To many Israel is considered an apartheid state so naturally many modern South Africans & Africans in general are against it naturally. There also those African who choose there “side” based solely on faith.

It just amazes me how passionate Africans will come out and hit the Streets to fight for foreign factions who ultimately near equally couldn’t give a $hit about Africans and there plights.

But Africans will not bring that same level of continent wide furiosity to local regional problems?

If the conflicted ended today and Nigeria invaded Ghana tomorrow killing every Ghanaian in sight ain’t no Israeli & Palestinian giving a $hit. And you can say the exact same thing regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

Excellent post!!!

1 Trillion likes.

kabe1:


So, why don't you create a thread for that.

The Israel-Palestine issue is not an African problem, it is not a Nigerian problem.

There are a myriad of problems facing the African continent, concentrate on that, besides this thread is about African militaries, Not palestine issue.

You presume to tell me what I should concentrate on? Who the fvck do you think you are?

Lurker4Long:

You presume to tell me what I should concentrate on? Who the fvck do you think you are?

Nobody, actually.

AskiaHarem:


It just amazes me how passionate Africans will come out and hit the Streets to fight for foreign factions who ultimately near equally couldn’t give a $hit about Africans and there plights.

In SA, the Palestine/Israel issue is closer to home...

kabe1:

The Israel-Palestine issue is not an African problem, it is not a Nigerian problem.

It's a South African problem, it affects our policies, affects internal South African politics.

Boko Haram is not a South African problem, it does not affect our policies and politics, and it does nothing to us BUT you post it all day long because it affects you.... everyone on his lane.

Lurker4Long:
...last.

Cool lasers

GreenandGold:


It's a South African problem, it affects our policies, affects internal South African politics.

Boko Haram is not a South African problem, it does not affect our policies and politics, and it does nothing to us BUT you post it all day long because it affects you.... everyone on his lane.

Israeli/Palestine conflict is not and will never be a South African problem. If it currently affects South African politics or economic systems today, that's because you guys made it so.

SA doesn't not have any geopolitical footprint in the ME. There are no shared interests with either Palestine or Israel and TBH, it is a very different situation from the apartheid his of SA.

I'm not at all saying that countries should practice nonchalance towards conflicts that don't affect them. That would be very bad. What I'm against is people becoming emotionally invested in things that don't concern them. When people do so, they end up protracting the issue instead of resolving it. Countries throwing diplomacy under the bus and I'm wondering how that solves the problem.

GreenandGold:


It's a South African problem, it affects our policies, affects internal South African politics.

Boko Haram is not a South African problem, it does not affect our policies and politics, and it does nothing to us BUT you post it all day long because it affects you.... everyone on his lane.

This makes no sense!

This is the purpose of this thread.

African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread.

Beautiful Nigerian T-129 ATAK Helicopter Conducting Test flight at TAC in Makurdi!!

https://twitter.com/milnewsng/status/1725218200764248267

Unloading of Nigerian Air Force T-129 ATAK Helicopters at the Tactical Air Command (TAC) in Makurdi.


NAF purchased 6 T-129 ATAK, with the possibility of purchase of another 6 units.

Nigeria received the T-129B Model.

This is the most advanced T-129 model currently available.

kabe1:
Beautiful Nigerian T-129 ATAK Helicopter Conducting Test flight at TAC in Makurdi!!

https://twitter.com/milnewsng/status/1725218200764248267

Abeg the test pilot should take it easy ohhh, we no wan hear story

Faithful007:


Israeli/Palestine conflict is not and will never be a South African problem. If it currently affects South African politics or economic systems today, that's because you guys made it so.

SA doesn't not have any geopolitical footprint in the ME. There are no shared interests with either Palestine or Israel and TBH, it is a very different situation from the apartheid his of SA.

I'm not at all saying that countries should practice nonchalance towards conflicts that don't affect them. That would be very bad. What I'm against is people becoming emotionally invested in things that don't concern them. When people do so, they end up protracting the issue instead of resolving it. Countries throwing diplomacy under the bus and I'm wondering how that solves the problem.

Your leaders are preaching "diplomacy" when they should say "we can't say or do anything because we store the money we steal from you in Europe, Israel and the US"... Nigeria did stick its neck out for South Africa during Apartheid because your leaders had nothing to lose from the SA government, but everything to gain by scamming you into thinking you were donating money to SAn "suffering blacks".... You always need to see beyond the nonsense.

Here; Paramount Group is accused of selling weapons to Israel, do you know why? The founder of the company is Jewish... if accusations appear to be valid to the SA public (chances are they are not), Paramount Group may be overlooked by Armscor for the new SANDF acquisition contracts in fear of a public backlash... this is Middle-Eastern politics affecting SA politics... its the sh#t you fail to understand.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/anti-israel-protesters-at-paramount-midrand-campus/

jteku:


Abeg the test pilot should take it easy ohhh, we no wan hear story

What story? Wetin $50 fulani RPG go drop?

Floky215:


What story? Wetin $50 fulani RPG go drop?

Na u get ur mouth

jteku:


Na u get ur mouth

And my hand too...!!
We go all dey here when e go happen...!!

Please someone should help me identify this.. I done Google reverse images search still couldn't find anything..

Thanks

Daptboy:
Please someone should help me identify this.. I done Google reverse images search still couldn't find anything..

Thanks

That's a modern version of the Chinese QCW-05 Sub machine gun with a detachable silencer.

In my opinion, that's the wrong weapon for the NSCDC.

They are not operating in tight spaces or close quarters, why would they invest in a Sub-machine gun.

kabe1:


That's a modern version of the Chinese QCW-05 Sub machine gun with a detachable silencer.

In my opinion, that's the wrong weapon for the NSCDC.

They are not operating in tight spaces or close quarters, why would they invest in a Sub-machine gun.

Apparently it is used mainly by bodyguard teams.

Every other person use AK style weapons, which makes sense.

The Chief of Air Staff (CAS) of the Nigerian Air Force and his team made a visit to the booth of Czech aerospace company Aero Vodochody during day two of the Dubai Airshow 2023.

Faithful007:


Israeli/Palestine conflict is not and will never be a South African problem. If it currently affects South African politics or economic systems today, that's because you guys made it so.

SA doesn't not have any geopolitical footprint in the ME. There are no shared interests with either Palestine or Israel and TBH, it is a very different situation from the apartheid his of SA.

I'm not at all saying that countries should practice nonchalance towards conflicts that don't affect them. That would be very bad. What I'm against is people becoming emotionally invested in things that don't concern them. When people do so, they end up protracting the issue instead of resolving it. Countries throwing diplomacy under the bus and I'm wondering how that solves the problem.

1) You of course, know our history and our reality better than ourselves;
2) Where does the idea come from that we can instruct others what issues should concern them?

GreenandGold:

Here; Paramount Group is accused of selling weapons to Israel, do you know why? The founder of the company is Jewish... if accusations appear to be valid to the SA public (chances are they are not), Paramount Group may be overlooked by Armscor for the new SANDF acquisition contracts in fear of a public backlash... this is Middle-Eastern politics affecting SA politics... its the sh#t you fail to understand.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/anti-israel-protesters-at-paramount-midrand-campus/

Actually, it's more than Ichikowitz being Jewish. The deputy CEO is an officer (Lt Col) in the IDF Reserves, like hundreds of other SA Jews with dual nationality.
I think the whole protest at Paramount is BS, and likely instigated by competitors.

RIP Ahmed Abbasi - humanitarian and head of the Gaza office of the Gift of the Givers, SA NGO active in 44 countries and largest disaster response NGO of African origin - killed yesterday in Gaza on his way from morning prayers.
He joins other South Africans killed whilst serving in the IDF, on Oct07. A handful are among the Hamas hostages.
And yet people who know so little of our history have the effrontery to tell us it's none of our concern!

In keeping with the best Cape Town traditions of multiculturalism and inclusivity, the memorial service at St George's Cathedral -Archbishop Tutu's church and the site of numerous anti-Apartheid marches/activities - will be multi-faith with Islamic, Christian, Judaic, Buddhist, African traditionalist elements.
Yet more reasons to be proud of my city.

Hundreds of South African Jews make aliyah to Israel every year. Some, as dual citizens, get drafted into the IDF. In fact, one of the earliest recruits into MK - the ANC's armed wing - Arthur Goldreich, was recruited by his friend Mandela because he had guerilla experience, having served in the Israeli war of independence in 1948 in the Palmach, the elite wing of the Haganah.

Prior to 1948, Jan Smuts as SA prime minister had been a firm supporter of Zionism. In fact, from about 1930 to about 1965, the 2nd largest financial support for Israel after the US, came from South Africa.
A long, complex, intimate relationship with both sides of the divide in both countries.

In the link below, IDF soldiers from SA, amongst hundreds such. With this and other images going around, it would be monumentally stupid for the South African govt not to express itself on Israel/Palestine. Quite apart from the moral imperative.
https://www.tiktok.com/@samu.za/video/7299753630096313606?_t=8hQzu4Agp7u&_r=1

GreenandGold:


Your leaders are preaching "diplomacy" when they should say "we can't say or do anything because we store the money we steal from you in Europe, Israel and the US"... Nigeria did stick its neck out for South Africa during Apartheid because your leaders had nothing to lose from the SA government, but everything to gain by scamming you into thinking you were donating money to SAn "suffering blacks".... You always need to see beyond the nonsense.

Here; Paramount Group is accused of selling weapons to Israel, do you know why? The founder of the company is Jewish... if accusations appear to be valid to the SA public (chances are they are not), Paramount Group may be overlooked by Armscor for the new SANDF acquisition contracts in fear of a public backlash... this is Middle-Eastern politics affecting SA politics... its the sh#t you fail to understand.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/anti-israel-protesters-at-paramount-midrand-campus/

This must count as a base and disgusting post from any halfway intelligent pfool talkless of a normal person. I really can for the life of me not understand why the mods here allow you and that other lurker to keep posting your meaningless and senseless drivel on here!!.
This forum is NAIRALAND. Take your childish tantrums elsewhere if you have any pride and choke on your bile while at it. Both you and that lurker are disgusting lowlives.