1st Cor 7

“It is good for a man not to marry”


Was the person that wrote that verse high on something?

What is good about not getting married? To think no bible scholar/teachers have touched on that verse is fishy!

Is that verse a mistake?
Kobojunkie, have you seen this bible chapter before?

It is not a mistake, and the writer is not high on anything. You simply refused to read and understand the whole chapter after you got the verse you were looking for.

oranget:
It is not a mistake, and the writer is not high on anything. You simply refused to read and understand the whole chapter after you got the verse you were looking for.

“8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion”


Pardon my ignorance, is the verse telling us to remain unmarried regardless or to marry only when we can’t control the urge immoralities?

That verse doesn't say, "It is best for a man not to marry". The verse does not even say, "It is better for a man not to marry". So, use your brain.

immortalcrown:
That verse doesn't say "It is best for a man not to marry". So, use your brain.

“It is good” it says.

Carcholce:


“It is good” it says.

Saying it is good for you to eat meat does not mean it is bad for you to choose Yam. The verse does not say that the only thing good for a man is for him not to marry.

Carcholce:
1st Cor 7 “It is good for a man not to marry” Was the person that wrote that verse high on something? What is good about not getting married? To think no bible scholar/teachers have touched on that verse is fishy! Is that verse a mistake? , have you seen this bible chapter before?

What mistake? The same Jesus Christ who confirmed to you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 assured you that instead those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the Kingdom of God have God's special blessing/Permission to do so.

8 Jesus answered, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching. But divorce was not allowed in the beginning.
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, and marries another woman is guilty of adultery.”
10 The followers said to Jesus, “If that is the only reason a man can divorce his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11 He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.
12 There are different reasons why some men don’t marry. Some were born without the ability to produce children. Others were made that way later in life. And others have given up marriage because of God’s kingdom. This is for anyone who can accept it.” - Matthew 19 vs 8 - 12

The question here should be why do you want it to be a mistake?

immortalcrown:
Saying it is good for you to eat meat does not mean it is bad for you to choose Yam. The verse does not say that the only thing good for a man is for him not to marry.

I am afraid this comparison is flawed! Since God Himself gave blessings to those who would choose to stay unmarried for the sake of His Kingdom, it is of righteousness to choose to live as an Eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of God. However, if one chooses to get married though, there is no righteousness or goodness associated with that.

There is nothing Righteous about marriage given of course that marriage is not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34-36. There is also nothing righteous about remaining single just for the sake of it. However, because of God's special blessing, there is Righteousness in the choice to remain for the sake of the Kingdom of God - Matthew 19 vs 12.

Carcholce:
1st Cor 7

“It is good for a man not to marry”


Was the person that wrote that verse high on something?

What is good about not getting married? To think no bible scholar/teachers have touched on that verse is fishy!

Is that verse a mistake?
Kobojunkie, have you seen this bible chapter before?

So even as you see people are running away from marriage, you do not see the good of not being married?

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid this comparison is flawed! Since God Himself gave blessings to those who would choose to stay unmarried for the sake of His Kingdom, it is of righteousness to choose to live as an Eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of God. However, if one chooses to get married though, there is no righteousness or goodness associated with that.

There is nothing Righteous about marriage given of course that marriage is not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34-36. There is also nothing righteous about remaining single just for the sake of it. However, because of God's special blessing, there is Righteousness in the choice to remain for the sake of the Kingdom of God - Matthew 19 vs 12.

"It is good for you to take care of your mother." Does this statement go against you taking care of your father and other people?

immortalcrown:
"It is good for you to take care of your mother." Does this statement go against you taking care of your father and other people?

God's standard of righteousness/goodness is not to be compared in any way to man's idea of goodness. Your first and most terrible mistake!

Kobojunkie:
God's standard of righteousness/goodness is not to be compared in any way to man's idea of goodness. Your first and most terrible mistake!

You have a serious problem with English. When you say something is good, your statement does not mean that nothing else is good.

immortalcrown:
You have a serious problem with English. When you say something is good, your statement does not mean that nothing else is good.

Stop deluding yourself with this gibberish of yours!

The standard of Goodness in Scripture is God's Law. So for you to continuously attempt to bring it down to man's idea of goodness means you have no clue what you are on about even as you continue to beat at your chest there in ignorant confidence.

Kobojunkie:
Stop deluding yourself with this gibberish of yours!

The standard of Goodness in Scripture is God's Law. So for you to continuously attempt to bring it down to man's idea of goodness means you have no clue what you are on about even as you continue to beat at your chest there in ignorant confidence.

Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question the verse?

immortalcrown:
Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question the verse?

Is Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 of man's idea? Is Matthew 19 vs 12 of man's standard of reasoning?

Kobojunkie:
Is Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 of man's idea? Is Matthew 19 vs 12 of man's standard of reasoning?

Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question these verses?

immortalcrown:
Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question these verses?

I am not the one questioning the verses though.

Kobojunkie:
I am not the one questioning the verses though.

Then, what is your problem with my comment is you are not the one questioning the verses?

immortalcrown:
Then, what is your problem with my comment is you are not the one questioning the verses?

I more than made myself clear on that!

Kobojunkie:
What mistake? The same Jesus Christ who confirmed to you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 assured you that instead those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the Kingdom of God have God's special blessing/Permission to do so.
The question here should be why do you want it to be a mistake?

I’m lost. If the chapter is against marriage because it is of this world, does it support the idea of birthing children without the union of marriage?

I apologize if my question sounds silly!

Dtruthspeaker:


So even as you see people are running away from marriage, you do not see the good of not being married?

Actually I thought the union of marriage was a biblical tradition.

Is the chapter trying to say a man is expected to remain celibate to enter the kingdom of heaven?

Carcholce:
■ I’m lost. If the chapter is against marriage because it is of this world,
■ does it support the idea of birthing children without the union of marriage? I apologize if my question sounds silly!

Why do you people interpret these things in such a manner? The chapter is not against marriage. It is simply letting you know that there is no glory to be obtained from marriage in God. Marriage is no different from pooping or eating or drinking or sleeping... all these things you do are of this world and not of the kingdom of God.

2. Even your bearing of children exercises are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Genesis 3 vs 16. All of this is so people are not deceived by those who would like that getting married is God's plan or that having kids is God's destiny for anyone when it ain't none of that.

Carcholce:
1st Cor 7

“It is good for a man not to marry”


Was the person that wrote that verse high on something?

What is good about not getting married? To think no bible scholar/teachers have touched on that verse is fishy!

Is that verse a mistake?
Kobojunkie, have you seen this bible chapter before?

First of all, Paul said that, and he did as part of a long teaching on being good Christians. It was not as though this is law from God; this was simply his advice to Christians as a father and apostle. If you check and I'm using Good News as a yardstick, the translation for that verse is two. Good News places a reference for that verse. At the bottom, the optional translation is

'You say that a man does well not to marry'

The optional translation is more of him restating a point someone has said to him.

Anyway, Any sensible person who reads the entire chapter 7 knows what Paul was trying to do. That being said, Abeg, when you are reading the Bible, remember that it is a translation of a translation of the original copy, so there are translation flaws, also remember that there was a culture, understanding, and pattern then, also remember that to read between the lines, a lot of texts have a deeper meaning than what it looks, and by God, stop picking a verse and concluding. What led to the verse, what led away from the verse, what was the entire topic about, what was the culture at the time, who is speaking, who is being spoken to, what are the related verse. All of these are important. Stop picking one line and concluding that the Bible said this. If that is so, then the Bible also said kill. so...

Dvea:



First of all, Paul said that, and he did as part of a long teaching on being good Christians. It was not as though this is law from God; this was simply his advice to Christians as a father and apostle. If you check and I'm using Good News as a yardstick, the translation for that verse is two. Good News places a reference for that verse. At the bottom, the optional translation is

'You say that a man does well not to marry'

The optional translation is more of him restating a point someone has said to him.

Anyway, Any sensible person who reads the entire chapter 7 knows what Paul was trying to do. That being said, Abeg, when you are reading the Bible, remember that it is a translation of a translation of the original copy, so there are translation flaws, also remember that there was a culture, understanding, and pattern then, also remember that to read between the lines, a lot of texts have a deeper meaning than what it looks, and by God, stop picking a verse and concluding. What led to the verse, what led away from the verse, what was the entire topic about, what was the culture at the time, who is speaking, who is being spoken to, what are the related verse. All of these are important. Stop picking one line and concluding that the Bible said this. If that is so, then the Bible also said kill. so...

Please pardon my ignorance! You will agree with me that even an acclaimed man of God standing on the alter do also desecrate the holy bible talk more of a bloody pagan like myself. I needed help to understand what the chapter is saying. “To marry or not to marry”

Thank you for your input!

Carcholce:


Please pardon my ignorance! You will agree with me that even an acclaimed man of God standing on the alter do also desecrate the holy bible talk more of a bloody pagan like myself. I needed help to understand what the chapter is saying. “To marry or not to marry”

Thank you for your input!

Marry, by all means, Marry. If you can't stay single, then marry. It is better to marry than fornicate. But when you marry as Paul instructed, do so out of love and a determination to surrender yourself to the other party and vice versa. Do not marry just for sex or cause she looks fine; marry because you re ready to work and live as one. Thinking of each other and not yourself. Marriage is a selfless act and that's a fact most people do not wish to accept.

Dvea:
■ Marry, by all means, Marry. If you can't stay single, then marry. It is better to marry than fornicate. But when you marry as Paul instructed, do so out of love and a determination to surrender yourself to the other party and vice versa. Do not marry just for sex or cause she looks fine; marry because you re ready to work and live as one. Thinking of each other and not yourself. Marriage is a selfless act and that's a fact most people do not wish to accept.

Selfless indeed!

Carcholce:


Actually I thought the union of marriage was a biblical tradition.

Is the chapter trying to say a man is expected to remain celibate to enter the kingdom of heaven?

Yes!

A virgin should remain a virgin and not guilty of fornication/adultety to make the kingdom of God.

And that if a virgin has desires for women, then he should marry rather than sin.

That is the scope of his message.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes!

A virgin should remain a virgin and not guilty of fornication/adultety to make the kingdom of God.

And that if a virgin has desires for women, then he should marry rather than sin.

That is the scope of his message.

Thank you for your response.

Another question, does a fornicator that decide to go celibate and do away with the old life qualify for the kingdom of God?

Carcholce:
■Actually I thought the union of marriage was a biblical tradition.
■ Is the chapter trying to say a man is expected to remain celibate to enter the kingdom of heaven?

Union of marriage is not a biblical tradition. There is no such thing as a biblical tradition. There is instead God's Law and then those who subscribe to and obey God's Law. Simple! Of course, there are equally those who claim they subscribe to God's Law but instead reject it by their refusal to obey.

2. To enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, one is expected to live his life in continuous submission and obedience to God's Law. And God's Law does not include any provisions for those who are married. For example, you may end up having to abandon your marriage altogether in other to fulfill the requirements for Heaven - Newsflash!

Carcholce:


Thank you for your response.

Another question, does a fornicator that decide to go celibate and do away with the old life qualify for the kingdom of God?

This is where the mercy of God comes in. I believe that by the combination of his pure repentance, consistency in rightdoing and backed by unbroken refusal to fornicate or commit adultery over the remainder of your life, I believe The Lord will accept such a one for that is who He came to save.

He came for sinners to turn away from their sins, so he who has proven to have turned away from his sins shows that His mission to earth was not in vain.

Kobojunkie:
Union of marriage is not a biblical tradition. There is no such thing as a biblical tradition. There is instead God's Law and then those who subscribe to and obey God's Law. Simple! Of course, there are equally those who claim they subscribe to God's Law but instead reject it by their refusal to obey.

2. To enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, one is expected to live his life in continuous submission and obedience to God's Law. And God's Law does not include any provisions for those who are married. For example, you may end up having to abandon your marriage altogether in other to fulfill the requirements for Heaven - Newsflash!

I'm sorry I am not sure I got you right. Are you saying married people can't make heaven?