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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 2:12pm On Nov 19, 2023
AbuTwins:


I need a Bible verse that said God breathed spirit and soul in to Adam!

I agree the body came with dust!

From the Torah:
Gen 2.7
the Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into his nostrils the *breath of life* , and man became a living being.

Greek: And God formed dust from the earth into a man and he blew into his face a breath of life, and the man became a living soul.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 2:22pm On Nov 19, 2023
AbuTwins:


Adam, Noah, Isaac , Ishmael, Joseph, Jonah, Jesus, Abraham, Elijah, John the Baptist, Zachariah , Jacob, David, Solomon, Israel, Job, etc were all Muslims!

That's what they are called in Islam. Anyone who submits to Allah is a Muslim.

Ignorance is when you think Islam started with Muhammad! Islam is the only religion of all Prophets and only religion accepted by Allah!

Mind you I sabi abuse too. Same Jews that beheaded your John the Baptist as birthday gift are the same ones who hanged your God accursed death by hanging judgement! Same Jews you worship in Israel today!

Toh am also a Muslim by that your definition.

You see how you are trying so hard to prove a point that you now making conjectures just to prove a point.

In Islam it is believed that everyone is a Muslim by birth and by this lose ambiguousness ofthe term "muslim" it means even a homosexual can claim muslim this unacceptable. In reality being a Muslim requires the something called the belief of faith which is "there is no god but Allah; Muhammad is the messenger of Allah"

Again may I remind you that Mohammad was not known to Moses or any of the prophets before him.

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by YorubaDemonswag: 3:00pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


You have a body, soul and spirit.. which among the 3 is superior?

I could show u scriptural evidence in the torah were Jesus was referred to as Lord on earth and he prayed to the Lord in heaven. Yes it is that deep that is why PROPHET Mohammed told you people to consult us if you have any difficulties.

For some reason I prefer to let some of you wallow in ignorance because no matter the evidence presented, you will still deny the power therein.

The idea of the Triune God head is something you might never understand in this lifetime.


Body, spirit and soul? Are you normal at all?

What's spirit and what's soul? Tell us what those two things are if you normal.

Your comparation doesn't make sense because spirit,body and soul or whatever you call it are not equal just as your Trinity is.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by bewla(m): 3:17pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Quote the exact scriptures let me teach you
Luke , account Mathew, mark account of death and rise of Jesus
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 3:28pm On Nov 19, 2023
YorubaDemonswag:


Body, spirit and soul? Are you normal at all?

What's spirit and what's soul? Tell us what those two things are if you normal.

Your comparation doesn't make sense because spirit,body and soul or whatever you call it are not equal just as your Trinity is.

Yoruba demon, as the name implies you are not here in search of knowledge you are only looking for trouble and trying to spread the darkness of your evil ways and means, i am sure you walk around with
a demonic entity inhibiting you.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 3:30pm On Nov 19, 2023
bewla:
Luke , account Mathew, mark account of death and rise of Jesus

Mathew chapter?

Luke chapter?

Mark chapter?

I need those references because there is no such contradiction in my own scripture so am keen to know which scriptures you are reading
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by YorubaDemonswag: 3:37pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Yoruba demon, as the name implies you are not here in search of knowledge you are only looking for trouble and trying to spread the darkness of your evil ways and means, i am sure you walk around with
a demonic entity inhibiting you.

Them don use jahweh scam you
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 3:44pm On Nov 19, 2023
YorubaDemonswag:


Them don use jahweh scam you

Nah...
You scammed yourself by not believing in God. The fact that you to include demon in your name means you are truly affiliated with the demonic. You are neither Christian nor Muslim because by your fruits I was able to identify you.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by YorubaDemonswag: 3:49pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Nah...
You scammed yourself by not believing in God. The fact that you to include demon in your name means you are truly affiliated with the demonic. You are neither Christian nor Muslim because by your fruits I was able to identify you.


Believe in which God? Jehovah or Allah?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 4:04pm On Nov 19, 2023
YorubaDemonswag:


Believe in which God? Jehovah or Allah?

You are incapable of believing because of your demonic possession. Light and darkness have nothing in common.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by YorubaDemonswag: 4:38pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


You are incapable of believing because of your demonic possession. Light and darkness have nothing in common.


Answer the question,God or Allah?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by AbuTwins: 4:46pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Toh am also a Muslim by that your definition.

No you are not! A Muslim believes in the God and the Prophet sent to him.

Those who believed in God and Moses during his time were Muslims.

Those who believed in God and Noah during his time and entered the ark were saved. They are Muslims.

Those who believed in Jesus during his time on earth were Muslims. Jesus was sent to Israel!

Those who believed in Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam during his time till now are Muslims! Muhammad was sent the all of mankind and jinns.

You don't believe in Muhammad but we believe in the existence of all those Prophets in the past.

You see how you are trying so hard to prove a point that you now making conjectures just to prove a point.

In Islam it is believed that everyone is a Muslim by birth and by this lose ambiguousness ofthe term "muslim" it means even a homosexual can claim muslim this unacceptable. In reality being a Muslim requires the something called the belief of faith which is "there is no god but Allah; Muhammad is the messenger of Allah"

You are right..A Muslim is not a Muslim till he believes the Muhammad as the prophet of this era we are while not deny other prophets in the past.

Anyone can claim anything! Even your Bible mentioned wolves in sheep's clothing!

Again may I remind you that Mohammad was not known to Moses or any of the prophets before him.

All Prophets foretold of Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! Even Jesus did!
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by AbuTwins: 4:48pm On Nov 19, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


From the Torah:
Gen 2.7
the Lord God formed man from the dust of the earth. He blew into his nostrils the *breath of life* , and man became a living being.

Greek: And God formed dust from the earth into a man and he blew into his face a breath of life, and the man became a living soul.

So from this we only see body from dust and breath of life which gives soul to the body!

Where does the spirit come from?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:48pm On Nov 19, 2023
Ni sane person can think of hating Jesus but as for Christ 99.9999% of people will hate him.

WHY?

Jesus was a first century Jewish young man of the tribe of Judah who was hardworking as a carpenter which is the craft his foster father (Joseph) handed over to him.

Christ is the person who came out of the water after John the baptist put Jesus into the river Jordan, from that very moment the man became a totally different person no longer returning to his home or carpentry work, he began preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom that exactly is what made everyone hate him . smiley

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 5:14pm On Nov 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ni sane person can think of hating Jesus but as for Christ 99.9999% of people will hate him.

WHY?

Jesus was a first century Jewish young man of the tribe of Judah who was hardworking as a carpenter which is the craft his foster father (Joseph) handed over to him.

Christ is the person who came out of the water after John the baptist put Jesus into the river Jordan, from that very moment the man became a totally different person no longer returning to his home or carpentry work, he began preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom that exactly is what made everyone hate him . smiley

How do people hate a fictional character?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Rathoreng(m): 5:18pm On Nov 19, 2023
Maryam - Verse 30

قَالَ إِنِّى عَبْدُ ٱللَّهِ ءَاتَىٰنِىَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ وَجَعَلَنِى نَبِيًّا

Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran:
Jesus declared, “I am truly a servant of Allah. He has destined me to be given the Scripture and to be a prophet.

Transliteration:
Qala innee AAabdu Allahi ataniya alkitaba wajaAAalanee nabiyyan

https://tarteel.ai/ayah/19/30

AbuTwins:
But the Qur'an called Jesus a servant/slave of Allah in Qur'an 19:30.

So how can a servant/slave of Allah be your God?

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 5:22pm On Nov 19, 2023
AbuTwins:


No you are not! A Muslim believes in the God and the Prophet sent to him.

Those who believed in God and Moses during his time were Muslims.

Those who believed in God and Noah during his time and entered the ark were saved. They are Muslims.

Those who believed in Jesus during his time on earth were Muslims. Jesus was sent to Israel!

Those who believed in Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam during his time till now are Muslims! Muhammad was sent the all of mankind and jinns.

You don't believe in Muhammad but we believe in the existence of all those Prophets in the past.


You are right..A Muslim is not a Muslim till he believes the Muhammad as the prophet of this era we are while not deny other prophets in the past.

Anyone can claim anything! Even your Bible mentioned wolves in sheep's clothing!



All Prophets foretold of Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! Even Jesus did!


Mention one prophet in Arabia who prophesied the coming of Muhammad.

Muhammad fathers name was Abdullah which means servant of Allah, so Allah was already worshipped in Arabia prior to the birth of Muhammad. So where there prophet of Allah in Arabia who prophesied about Allah sending the last prophet ??

Forget about the Jewish Tanakh and the christian gospels..they are not of Arabic origin..

If you can't, then am free to conclude that Muhammad NEVER existed too..
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49pm On Nov 19, 2023
sonmvayina:

How do people hate a fictional character?

Do you know the history of any human apart from Jesus of Nazareth?

Come on!
Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel or any other prophet in the Bible remains fictional without Jesus of Nazareth! smiley

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 7:30pm On Nov 19, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Do you know the history of any human apart from Jesus of Nazareth?

Come on!
Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel or any other prophet in the Bible remains fictional without Jesus of Nazareth! smiley

They are all fictional characters...

How do somebody hate a fictional character?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by AbuTwins: 10:13pm On Nov 19, 2023
sonmvayina:


Mention one prophet in Arabia who prophesied the coming of Muhammad.
Arabia only had one prophet which is Muhammad. So how will there be any other who prophesied him?

Muhammad fathers name was Abdullah which means servant of Allah, so Allah was already worshipped in Arabia prior to the birth of Muhammad. So where there prophet of Allah in Arabia who prophesied about Allah sending the last prophet ??
The Arabian society before the advent of Islam knew Allah as their Lord but associated partners with Him. This was the reason they fought the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam when he proclaimed that "There's no deity worthy of worship except Allah". They never want to leave their numerous idols for the unseen Allah!

[b]Forget about the Jewish Tanakh and the christian gospels..they are not of Arabic origin..

If you can't, then am free to conclude that Muhammad NEVER existed too..[/quote]

For sure he did existed. And his tradition was preserved!
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 10:57am On Nov 20, 2023
AbuTwins:
Arabia only had one prophet which is Muhammad. So how will there be any other who prophesied him?

The Arabian society before the advent of Islam knew Allah as their Lord but associated partners with Him. This was the reason they fought the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam when he proclaimed that "There's no deity worthy of worship except Allah". They never want to leave their numerous idols for the unseen Allah!

[b]Forget about the Jewish Tanakh and the christian gospels..they are not of Arabic origin..

If you can't, then am free to conclude that Muhammad NEVER existed too..

For sure he did existed. And his tradition was preserved!

Do you know that Muhammad was only associated with Islam around 800CE...that is 200 years after the so called hijra.

So then where did he get the idea that he was the last prophet when there was never a prophet before him...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:54am On Nov 20, 2023
sonmvayina:

They are all fictional characters...

So don't quote Torah for me again because it's from fictional characters! grin

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by AbuTwins: 1:15pm On Nov 20, 2023
sonmvayina:


Do you know that Muhammad was only associated with Islam around 800CE...that is 200 years after the so called hijra.

So then where did he get the idea that he was the last prophet when there was never a prophet before him...

Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam started and ended the last lap of Islam in Arabia.

There were Prophets before him but not in Arabia.

Jesus, John the Baptist and Zechariah came before him.

Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam is a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael. The other prophetic line came from Abraham's Isaac.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 6:42pm On Nov 20, 2023
AbuTwins:


Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam started and ended the last lap of Islam in Arabia.

There were Prophets before him but not in Arabia.

Jesus, John the Baptist and Zechariah came before him.

Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam is a descendant of Abraham through Ishmael. The other prophetic line came from Abraham's Isaac.

Forget about Christianity and Judaism...

I am talking about Islam..

Where they prophets in Arabia who prophesied about the coming of Muhammad is as a last prophet of Allah in arabia
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 6:43pm On Nov 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


So don't quote Torah for me again because it's from fictional characters! grin

You are expected to learn the messages in them...that is what I explain

First you must understand what the text is saying first...which you clearly don't...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51pm On Nov 20, 2023
sonmvayina:

You are expected to learn the messages in them...that is what I explain First you must understand what the text is saying first...which you clearly don't...

If you're not insane you said the whole thing written is fictional yet you expected adults like you to learn from who?
Fictional Characters!
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 6:56pm On Nov 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


If you're not insane you said the whole thing written is fictional yet you expected adults like you to learn from who?
Fictional Characters!

Ode..

Just like Peter pan is about friendship.

Nobody talks about him existing...

He is just a character in a story....
There is message in the story..

But for the bible, there is a spiritual knowledge/message in it..

Learn it and live by it...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:02pm On Nov 20, 2023
sonmvayina:

Ode..
Just like Peter pan is about friendship.
Nobody talks about him existing...
He is just a character in a story....
There is message in the story..
But for the bible, there is a spiritual knowledge/message in it..
Learn it and live by it...

Idiot!

If not Jesus Christ even all your Jewish idiots know that nobody cares about their hopeless, worthless and useless Torah after all everything in it is fictional from your fictional god! cheesy
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 7:04pm On Nov 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Idiot!

If not Jesus Christ even all your Jewish idiots know that nobody cares about their hopeless, worthless and useless Torah after all everything in it is fictional from your fictional god! cheesy

Ode..

Bible is not a history textbook..

It is a manual for spiritual and moral instruction...

Get sense...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 10:09pm On Nov 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Idiot!

If not Jesus Christ even all your Jewish idiots know that nobody cares about their hopeless, worthless and useless Torah after all everything in it is fictional from your fictional god! cheesy


I know you are not older than 21 yrs of age, maybe 22 but if you are above 29/30yrs old typing like this walahi you won't go far.

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 10:10pm On Nov 20, 2023
sonmvayina:


Ode..

Bible is not a history textbook..

It is a manual for spiritual and moral instruction...

Get sense...

Lol I i didn't know how to respond. No need to insult him, try to save him instead and if he still resists ignore him to damnation.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by AbuTwins: 5:07am On Nov 21, 2023
sonmvayina:


Forget about Christianity and Judaism...

I am talking about Islam..

Where they prophets in Arabia who prophesied about the coming of Muhammad is as a last prophet of Allah in arabia

Must there be a prophet in Arabia to prophesy about the coming of a prophet therein?

Prophets are sent to their people; it can be their immediate family or nation. Jesus gave the prophecy about Muhammad's coming!

And Muhammad was the first and only prophet in Arabia. Ishmael his ancestor wasn't from there but migrated there.

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