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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On Nov 21, 2023
sonmvayina:

Ode..
Bible is not a history textbook..
It is a manual for spiritual and moral instruction...
Get sense...

If everything inside is FICTIONAL then there's no need reading it! cheesy

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09am On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:

I know you are not older than 21 yrs of age, maybe 22 but if you are above 29/30yrs old typing like this walahi you won't go far.
Guy i am old enough to be your father if not your grandpa so next time you want to interfere in discussions try to ask questions not just jumping in to pass judgement! smiley

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11am On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:

Lol I i didn't know how to respond. No need to insult him, try to save him instead and if he still resists ignore him to damnation.

FOOL!

Sonmvayina doesn't believe in damnation or judgement because to him all the prophets in the Bible are fictional characters so think before you judge! smiley

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:

Nothing like art of plurality there...
God made man in his own image.
Image of man=image of God
Jesus was God made manifest in the Flesh.
Otherwise how can a mere mortal raise people from the dead?

How can a mortal man walk on water?
Even among the Triune God head, there is still God the most high, as it is with the image of man of Body, Soul and Spirit.
The Soul is superior to body and spirit.
The soul is experiencing this reality through the body.

Sonmvayina totally disagree with the highlighted in fact to him you're stupid for believing in Jesus or any miracle recorded in the Bible.

So before you jump into any discussion think! smiley

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 7:32am On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Nothing like art of plurality there...

God made man in his own image.
Image of man=image of God

Jesus was God made manifest in the Flesh.

Otherwise how can a mere mortal raise people from the dead?
How can a mortal man walk on water?

Even among the Triune God head, there is still God the most high, as it is with the image of man of Body, Soul and Spirit.
The Soul is superior to body and spirit.
The soul is experiencing this reality through the body.

Elijah
Elisha
Peter
Paul
All these raised men from the dead
Are they also God

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:

Elijah
Elisha
Peter
Paul
All these raised men from the dead
Are they also God

He will soon call sonmvayina who doesn't even believe the Bible to come and save you! grin

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 7:51am On Nov 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


He will soon call sonmvayina who doesn't even believe the Bible to come and save you! grin

That fake jew?

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 4:01pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Elijah
Elisha
Peter
Paul
All these raised men from the dead
Are they also God

No because;
1. non of them ever called themselves God, there is only one place in the Bible were Jesus referred to himself as God deserving of Worship.
2. The Prophets of old testament didn't foretell them as the messiah.

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 4:02pm On Nov 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


FOOL!

Sonmvayina doesn't believe in damnation or judgement because to him all the prophets in the Bible are fictional characters so think before you judge! smiley

22yrs old for sure.
Your rambling is too much.

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:05pm On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:

22yrs old for sure.
Your rambling is too much.

OK nah!

Birdbyrde440:

No because;
1. non of them ever called themselves God, there is only one place in the Bible were Jesus referred to himself as God deserving of Worship.
2. The Prophets of old testament didn't foretell them as the messiah.

Convince sonmvayina about the highlighted before talking about salvation! cheesy

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 4:11pm On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


No because;
1. non of them ever called themselves God, there is only one place in the Bible were Jesus referred to himself as God deserving of Worship.
2. The Prophets of old testament didn't foretell them as the messiah.

Where did Jesus call himself God?

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 6:14pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Where did Jesus call himself God?

At that time Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. He fasted for forty days and forty nights and afterwards was hungry.

The tempter approached and said to him,

“If you are the *Son of God* (exactly the same question Jews and muslims always ask) , command that these stones become loaves of bread"

He said in reply, “It is written: One does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.”

Then the devil took him to the holy city and made him stand on the parapet of the temple and said to him,

“If you are the *Son of God* , throw yourself down. For it is written: He will command his angels concerning you and with their hands they will support you lest you dash your foot against a stone.”

Jesus answered him,

“Again it is written, you shall not put *the Lord, your God to the test.”*

Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain and he showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence and he said to him,

“All these I shall give to you if you will prostrate yourself and worship me.”

At this, Jesus said to him, “ It is written: The Lord, your God, shall you worship and him alone shall you serve.”

Then the devil left him, and behold angels came and ministered to him.


The reason I will never teach you muslims the deeper meaning of the bible is that you are never learning, never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
Even at this, you will still argue!
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 7:09pm On Nov 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


If everything inside is FICTIONAL then there's no need reading it! cheesy
Ode
Learn the messages in the stories..

That is what you are expected to take from it ..
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 7:10pm On Nov 21, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


If everything inside is FICTIONAL then there's no need reading it! cheesy
Ode
Learn the messages in the stories..

That is what you are expected to take from it ..

I used to have a yellow book bublished by watch tower titled "My book of Bible STORIES"

They are stories....learn the messages in them..

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 7:14pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


That fake jew?

I am ibo from delta state...

I am not a slave like you...that follows a foreign ideology...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 7:38pm On Nov 21, 2023
sonmvayina:


I am ibo from delta state...

I am not a slave like you...that follows a foreign ideology...


Jew is delta ideology?

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 7:39pm On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


At that time Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. He fasted for forty days and forty nights and afterwards was hungry.

The tempter approached and said to him,

“If you are the *Son of God* (exactly the same question Jews and muslims always ask) , command that these stones become loaves of bread"

He said in reply, “It is written: One does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.”

Then the devil took him to the holy city and made him stand on the parapet of the temple and said to him,

“If you are the *Son of God* , throw yourself down. For it is written: He will command his angels concerning you and with their hands they will support you lest you dash your foot against a stone.”

Jesus answered him,

“Again it is written, you shall not put *the Lord, your God to the test.”*

Then the devil took him up to a very high mountain and he showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence and he said to him,

“All these I shall give to you if you will prostrate yourself and worship me.”

At this, Jesus said to him, “ It is written: The Lord, your God, shall you worship and him alone shall you serve.”

Then the devil left him, and behold angels came and ministered to him.


The reason I will never teach you muslims the deeper meaning of the bible is that you are never learning, never coming to the knowledge of the truth.
Even at this, you will still argue!

Who did Jesus worship?
John 4:22

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 8:44pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Who did Jesus worship?
John 4:22

What is the context?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 8:46pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Jew is delta ideology?

I have succeeded in showing you that the christian religion is a pagan ideology and has nothing to do with the Jews...

If after all you still cling to idolatry and human sacrifices..it's on you..
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 8:50pm On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


What is the context?

Jesus mentioned to the Samaritan that he worshipped God and he knew who he worshipped as a Jew
His response to Satan was a reminder which was also among the Law that only Jehovah should be worship
Satan wanted what did not belong to him

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 9:05pm On Nov 21, 2023
sonmvayina:


I have succeeded in showing you that the christian religion is a pagan ideology and has nothing to do with the Jews...

If after all you still cling to idolatry and human sacrifices..it's on you..

There is occultism and extremism in every religion.
It's just important to know where you stand in the scheme of things...
Like simple things like abortion or using postinor call cause you to become a vessel for certain entities, when you abort/kill an unborn child it's an act of worship too baal, the god of child sacrifice. Its crucial to stay on the right path.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Birdbyrde440: 9:06pm On Nov 21, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Jesus mentioned to the Samaritan that he worshipped God and he knew who he worshipped as a Jew
His response to Satan was a reminder which was also among the Law that only Jehovah should be worship
Satan wanted what did not belong to him

Yo lol please quote the exact scripture that says that..
I have checked and didn't see any .

Ok what about when Jesus said "you shall not tempt the Lord your God " ?

It raises the question of who was being tempted; GOD or Jesus?
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 10:58pm On Nov 21, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Yo lol please quote the exact scripture that says that..
I have checked and didn't see any .

Ok what about when Jesus said "you shall not tempt the Lord your God " ?

It raises the question of who was being tempted; GOD or Jesus?


All Jesus words to Satan were laws and principle God gave to Moses
God warned them against putting him to the test which was something Satan was trying to do?

Again
Who was Satan tempting?
The son of God or God?

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by cornelboy(f): 2:23am On Nov 22, 2023
Aemmyjah:


Jew is delta ideology?
Lol 😂😂
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by cornelboy(f): 2:35am On Nov 22, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


Nothing like art of plurality there...

God made man in his own image.
Image of man=image of God

Jesus was God made manifest in the Flesh.

Otherwise how can a mere mortal raise people from the dead?
How can a mortal man walk on water?

Even among the Triune God head, there is still God the most high, as it is with the image of man of Body, Soul and Spirit.
The Soul is superior to body and spirit.
The soul is experiencing this reality through the body.
I'm interested in the highlighted.

Did Jesus raised the dead in his own power?
John 11:40-42
[40]Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
[41]Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
[42]And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.


The disciples that did the same miracle, were they Gods?

Jesus had faith in God throughout his ministry on earth. He depended on his Father and would often pray to him.
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51am On Nov 22, 2023
sonmvayina:

Ode
Learn the messages in the stories..

That is what you are expected to take from it ..

I used to have a yellow book bublished by watch tower titled "My book of Bible STORIES"

They are stories....learn the messages in them..


I will rather stick to African tortoise stories after all we also have FICTIONAL stories here in Africa! cheesy

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Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by Aemmyjah(m): 5:50am On Nov 22, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I will rather stick to African tortoise stories after all we also have FICTIONAL stories here in Africa! cheesy

😂
Delta Igbo fiction
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51am On Nov 22, 2023
Aemmyjah:

😂
Delta Igbo fiction
Don't mind the stupid atheist, his Jewish friend become God's enemy and in a bid to erase the name of Jesus even the core message of the Bible they trashed.
He is saying that FICTIONAL stories fabricated in a far away country is superior to the ones fabricated by our own people have here in Africa? smiley
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 9:13am On Nov 23, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I will rather stick to African tortoise stories after all we also have FICTIONAL stories here in Africa! cheesy

So which ever one you can grab...

Bottom line..learn the message in them..
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 9:16am On Nov 23, 2023
Birdbyrde440:


There is occultism and extremism in every religion.
It's just important to know where you stand in the scheme of things...
Like simple things like abortion or using postinor call cause you to become a vessel for certain entities, when you abort/kill an unborn child it's an act of worship too baal, the god of child sacrifice. Its crucial to stay on the right path.

Staying on the right path entails following God's original commandments and statues...
It is the only way to get to the creator...
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by sonmvayina(m): 9:20am On Nov 23, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Don't mind the stupid atheist, his Jewish friend become God's enemy and in a bid to erase the name of Jesus even the core message of the Bible they trashed.
He is saying that FICTIONAL stories fabricated in a far away country is superior to the ones fabricated by our own people have here in Africa? smiley

Max, you know I have never said so..

Stop trying to score cheap points by lying

I have made my points..
Re: How The Torah, Qur'an All Prove That Jesus Is God by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:29am On Nov 23, 2023
sonmvayina:

So which ever one you can grab...
Bottom line..learn the message in them..

There's nothing to learn from FICTION! cheesy

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