Are we still on this matter?

christistruth01:



Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

whosoever abolished History in our schools is an enemy of the people

Segzy19:
Thank God nobody mentioned the 'developers' and Igbos in the history of Lagos... Otherwise, we for no hear word again...

Fact have been paid bare, and records have set straight. Lagos belongs to Awori people who are YORUBAS...

Let me not hear pim from anyone again on this matter...

neither the aworis nor the binis can lay claim to the entire Lagos, the aworis had their territory in Lagos the binis also had their territory, Lagos is a state just like osun, just like you have the Ooni of ife who governs the ife territory of osun state, there are also other traditional rulers in the same osun, you can't come today and claim the ancestors of the Ooni founded osun state they only founded ife, same can be said about Lagos and how you guys always try to make it look like the aworis controlled the entire Lagos, the binis also had their territory, which means the oba isn't wrong.

Benwallt:
If Lagos that's almost twice the size of the entire southeast was badly managed like the southeast no one will wanna lay claim to it but now that the Yorubas have managed n brought about astronomical development by being accommodating to all tribes, everybody is laying claim to his ownership. Oba of Benin is a respected Oba and Yoruba people will not desecrate his throne, oba' gha tokpere, ise. Benin n Yoruba are one. We have no problem with Binis had it been Na Obi of Onitsha make this kind comment, e for hear am very hot.

How can Lagos (the smallest state in Nigeria) be almost twice the size of the entire southeast?

jaymichael:
The Oba no believe say him go collect like this.

Oba no collect, na una dey fool una selves, but you guys are so dumb to see that, you guys agreed that the BINIs settled in Lagos, you agreed the Benin tax other Lagos inhabitants, you agreed the bini started the oba dynasty in Lagos, you agreed the BINIs named Lagos Eko, which is the second name now, all these are validating the oba claim😂😂

Your only point is that the aworis settled in some parts of Lagos before the bini came, my question is who named it Lagos then If no be BINI found Lagos, na the Portuguese found Lagos na, since na them rename from Eko to Lagos😁😁😁

christistruth01:



Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

According to ur write-up, some Yoruba groups predate Oduduwa. So hw come Oduduwa is held as the progenitor of the Yoruba people? Need more insight

Shattuck:
neither the aworis nor the binis can lay claim to the entire Lagos, the aworis had their territory in Lagos the binis also had their territory, Lagos is a state just like osun, just like you have the Ooni of ife who governs the ife territory of osun state, there are also other traditional rulers in the same osun, you can't come today and claim the ancestors of the Ooni founded osun state they only founded ife, same can be said about Lagos and how you guys always try to make it look like the aworis controlled the entire Lagos, the binis also had their territory, which means the oba isn't wrong.

You get time dey follow them argue? I don't know if they lack comprehensive skills or they just choosed to be foolish, simple English Dem begin dey talk trash up and down even their so called educated Yorubas

GO0DHardDick:
The entire Yorubas have been barking and ranting in agony and lamentation ever since the great oba of Benin made this shocking revelation.

I'll urge the Yolubas to respect their host as Lagos state and most Yorubaland belongs to the binis and are equally founded by the binis.

P.S no yooluba miscreant should quote, else you'll be seriously Ignored

It's obvious you lack basic comprehension skills. Ọpọlọ yín tí yòòrò dànù bí òrí. Ayé ń ṣe yín sir. Oní history ìsọnu!

Baba Beeni don buy job
You no wan behave we go behave you
We go humble you
Baba wey no no self if Nigeria decide today beenii go fall under Yorubas. He come de run mouth anyhow

GODPUNISHALABI:
Lol see as them dey fight for lagos if say na emir of kano talk say na dem get lagos u go see as all of them go keep quiet....I no see this same energy when dem ban their useless festival for ilorin, them know who dem dey fear

Thunder fire you, emir of Kano and Mr Alabi wey you dey use his name. You think Yorubas give a fûck about Fulanis or Hausas?
All of you are mad with no cure.

Procashtips:


How can Lagos (the smallest state in Nigeria) be almost twice the size of the entire southeast?

The real Lagos land has been exhausted long ago due to unimaginable development and expansion. Lagos, very soon will swallow Ogun State and extend to Ibadan.

ican2020:
Why is it that most Yorubas cannot look at issues objectively

How I wish they can divide this country so that we can live without this tribe that will see white and go ahead to insist that is black

That's when you ll know that the calmness of Yorubas isn't cowardice. People like you ll be profiled as terrorists. Shoot at sight.

Yorubas don't give a fûck about one Nigeria. If it want to break, it should shatter into pieces!

Benwallt:


The real Lagos land has been exhausted long ago due to unimaginable development and expansion. Lagos, very soon will swallow Ogun State and extend to Ibadan.

How does this relate to the claim of Lagos being almost twice the size of the entire south east?

DeltaOil:
Brown roof republic is going to end up fighting everybody.
They seem to forget that its us that made Lagos state.

Remove us from Lagos and all you have are thugs,agberos, runs babes,druglords,ritualists, skull miners & r@pists

Aren't you one of those criminals you mentioned above. Brain dey pain you.
Leave Yorubaland. Never come back, enter bush!

Everyone is just dancing round same drumbeat. What Oba of Benin had said and what Abisoye Oshodi had said were same. Those who were against it were just blabbing and seeking undie relevance The Oba was so honest about his statement, which in my opinion, everyone would've applauded him for instead of the unnecessary attack. He said not every part of lagos but the lagos island, which was called eko back then. The word Eko was even an edo word. Aworis occupied the lagos mainland, up to the Alimosho by extension.

The fact is, there was no place called lagos back then but eko. The early settlers were the binis. They didn't go beyond that island space. Aworis didn't occupy the island called eko then and now lagos.. The mainland became lagos by extension. The areas were mainly occupied by the aworis not binis

Oba akiolu was right when he tried to educate people like Abisoye Oshodi that the name oshodi never existed among yorubas. Oshodi which was originally known as oshodin is a bini word. The family only identified with lagos by adopting that name. Idumota, idunganran, idumagbo, iga, etc are all bini words. All the old obas of lagos bodies were always being taken to Benin to Bury until the tradition changed. Look at lagos chiefs apparel, oba of lagos apparel too...they're mainly white, both the apparel and caps reflect those seen on bini chiefs. Oshodi has no meaning in yoruba. Those bearing dosunmu too adopted that name, in order to identify with lagos and claim lagos. They were mainly from Ogun state. The correct word was Docemo,

That said, that binis were first settlers of eko now lagos doesn't make binis owners of lagos or eko. It's yorubaland. End of story.

KingKO22:
Ordinarily, when you take a look at Lagos, it is surrounded by Yoruba land from Egba, Awori to Ijebu and Sagamu

So the Binin kingdom jumped all the entire Yoruba land from Ore, to Ijebu and Sagamu and found a place in another man's kingdom

The fact that you settle in a place doesn't make you the owner.

This history mainly pointing to the fact that Edo kingdom are from Yoruba land.
The names of their founder Kings are Yoruba names

Are you saying that oba of bini is stupid for saying what he said?

Racoon:
Oba really touched a nerve. But Fulani confidently claimed Ilorin and chase people to find refuge in Benin Republic, them no talk pim. Instead they were protesting and standing with their killer Palestinian terrorists brothers in Monatan - Iwo Road.

I used to think you may be truly non tribalistic, but alas your stoopid posts about one naijiriya are all a facade. Naija sha

MadamVanessa:


If only these cowards defended their people like this when Fulani herdsmen killed them and still chased them away from their land ,I don't think there will be any need for idp camps In Benin republic for this coward refugees.

Don't forget as we talk now llorin has been captured by the Fulanis, isese festival stopped by this same Fulanis, yet they say nothing about it.

They suddenly have their voice now, because it's oba of Benin, but let Fulani come now, all of them will run and hide nobody will mutter a word. Cowards.

Thanks historian. Fulanis are known enemies and are being checkmated time to time.
If you say why is Yorubas now creating more awareness? It's to prevent another issue like that of fulanis. For now, thunder fire you, fulanis, Benins and any non Yorubas that shook mouth in Yorubaland.

christistruth01:



Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

Ozuduwa or Oduduwa was a Bini prince dat migrated to Ife FROM BENIN!
He became the ONI after defeating Obatala and uniting the 13 clans in IFE. He was the very first Oni. When he was sought back in Benin, he declined return and instead sent one of his grand children Oranmiyan to sort out the monarchical difficulties in the then Igodomigodo

christistruth01:



Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

Facts you can research:

1. Up till around 2013, the Lagos state official website stated clearly that Lagos was founded by the Benin Kingdom.

2. The origin of the Awori's: they were in Ife with Oduduwa in the palace and left Ife after his death to other places. Some versions say they actually came with Oduduwa to Ife and remained his closest companions: meaning, they most likely came from wherever Oduduwa came from originally. (Benin believe Oduduwa was their son, if that is correct, then that will explain why the Awori's received the people of Benin with open arms in Lagos.)

3. When Kosoko was dethroned by the British, some of his children and followers returned to Benin, and were offered a place to stay near the palace, that street is still in Benin today: Lagos street. They returned to Benin because they knew their origin, even the Oba of Lagos made this same claim a few years ago.

4. The Bajulaiye family in Lagos is an extension of the Bazuaye family in Benin, visit them and ask.

5. At the height of the Oyo Empire, its boundary with Benin was in Ekiti, meaning, places like Ekiti, Ondo etc, were all under Benin administratively.

6. Oranmiyan went to Ife because the people of Benin had gone to Ife to request that Oduduwa return home to rule after the demise of his father in Benin, but he refused saying he had already settled in Ife, and sent his own son, Oranmiyan instead.

Oranmiyan went to Benin, had some difficulties, and left to found the Old Oyo Empire. He did not found Benin or its kingship, his Father Oduduwa was a Benin Prince.



I will continue if you are able to refute any of the above with facts.

christistruth01:



Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

I'm coming back for this. Which one is moba yoruba. We ijebu has been inhabitant of those region for long. It is said that the ijebus we migrated eastward and dwell along the logoon gave oduduwa water to cure his blinded. I'm from eredo Epe.

atobs4real:
Na now una go fear we Yorubas due to quality education and exposure and history in the cloud

Emir of Ilorin has your antidote.

Procashtips:


How does this relate to the claim of Lagos being almost twice the size of the entire south east?

You are still living on the map of Nigeria. Lagos has expanded while southeast has shrunk due to the effect of devastating erosion that has created archipelago of gullies in the region.

KingKO22:
Ordinarily, when you take a look at Lagos, it is surrounded by Yoruba land from Egba, Awori to Ijebu and Sagamu

So the Binin kingdom jumped all the entire Yoruba land from Ore, to Ijebu and Sagamu and found a place in another man's kingdom

The fact that you settle in a place doesn't make you the owner.

This history mainly pointing to the fact that Edo kingdom are from Yoruba land.
The names of their founder Kings are Yoruba names

My question is if they truly founded Lagos, how come their language didn’t become dominant in Lagos. This shows that, they were just a minority group who were later colonized by the majority Yoruba speaking Awori people.

With much love and deep respect for the king of Benin kingdom....

There's one thing that the king does not put into consideration before making his blind historically diabolical comments. The history had it that the Benins' are one of the descendants of Oduduwa and that they migrated from the Oyo empire with homage payment to the Oyo kingdom.

What this mean is that, the Benin kingdom is an offshoot of Yorubaland. How come they came back to come and establish part the kingdom that gave birth to them? Also, I don't know what the king is out to benefit in his unverified and distorted history. Is there any kind of war of superiority between the Benins' and other parts of Yoruba land.

To me, I think king needs to chase clout for relevance on social media. The king is not getting enough attention hence the need to fraudulently gain popularity overnight. He should contribute meaningfully to the society and use is good office to agitate for peace, unity and progress between different strata of the society.

tollyboy5:

I'm coming back for this. Which one is moba yoruba. We ijebu has been inhabitant of those region for long. It is said that the ijebus we migrated eastward and dwell along the logoon gave oduduwa water to cure his blinded. I'm from eredo Epe.

Thank you for this wonderful question

Some of the Moba people Migrated to Ijebu long before Oduduwa was born
We always knew that there were Aboriginal Ijebu around Lagos long before Oduduwa was born but they were not called Ijebu until around the 16th Century

They were Originally part of the Moba kingdom

That was why Awujale said the Ijebus were not of Oduduwa descent which is True for some Ijebu even though towns like Ijebu Ife are of direct Oduduwa descent

For example Oore Otun Ekiti is of Non Oduduwa Moba kingship dynasty descent too
It was he who told the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha to fetch water from the Moba Sea near Victoria Island today and that was what he used to cure Oduduwa's blindness

I hope the dust stirred by the aoba of abBenin O a Ewaure II settles down well.

GO0DHardDick:
The entire Yorubas have been barking and ranting in agony and lamentation ever since the great oba of Benin made this shocking revelation.

I'll urge the Yolubas to respect their host as Lagos state and most Yorubaland belongs to the binis and are equally founded by the binis.

P.S no yooluba miscreant should quote, else you'll be seriously Ignored

You this teen boy that roam about romance section sef dey talk. Brain dey pain ya papa. Ozuor!

Racoon:
Oba really touched a nerve. But Fulani confidently claimed Ilorin and chase people to find refuge in Benin Republic, them no talk pim. Instead they were protesting and standing with their killer Palestinian terrorists brothers in Monatan - Iwo Road.

I know you ll cry towards Fulani area. Ilorin is Yorubaland.
It's in ya lifetime when things will be straighten and errors of history are removed.

FiraO9:

Yorubas and deceit.

You too, do ya deceit. Painment is on you. Cry more.

FiraO9:
Coneheads(Yorubas) will create different threads, bark, wail, cry, and groan bitterly on SM and none of it will take a bit of an effect in reality.

I don't just know who cursed miscreants from the tribe of a fallen demon that majority of them now behave like clowns.

Set awon brainless things.

The whole world can see this dog o!
When he's replied in his own coin, they ll say Yorubas did this or that. Shey una see mad boy here o?

ican2020:
Why is it that most Yorubas cannot look at issues objectively

How I wish they can divide this country so that we can live without this tribe that will see white and go ahead to insist that is black

who is forcing you to live with them? Or how many Yorubas can you find in your cursed enclave ; now migration trend from that jungle u called state to the Sw, now tell me who is the leech here? Osu we will be glad if y’all can return back to your caves in alaibo and let’s see if you would be missed nonsense

just seeing this thread but i must contribute, the entire awori clan should look beyond money and consider intellectuals as king, we all know ifa does not pick anybody as king rather the state Government and afobajes act as the ifa.

Same way i usually clamor for our people to look beyond money politics before electing our leaders.

waice6571:
With much love and deep respect for the king of Benin kingdom....

There's one thing that the king does not put into consideration before making his blind historically diabolical comments. The history had it that the Benins' are one of the descendants of Oduduwa and that they migrated from the Oyo empire with homage payment to the Oyo kingdom.

What this mean is that, the Benin kingdom is an offshoot of Yorubaland. How come they came back to come and establish part the kingdom that gave birth to them? Also, I don't know what the king is out to benefit in his unverified and distorted history. Is there any kind of war of superiority between the Benins' and other parts of Yoruba land.

To me, I think king needs to chase clout for relevance on social media. The king is not getting enough attention hence the need to fraudulently gain popularity overnight. He should contribute meaningfully to the society and use is good office to agitate for peace, unity and progress between different strata of the society.

Since they fabricated the Izoduwa or Ekaladerhan story, Benins have been filled with unnecessary jealousy of Yorubas.
All their stories defied logic and reasoning. Looking at their kingdom, Yoruba language, culture, practice etc dominated it with so much shame on them that they don't know the deep meaning of those words in their language, those practice or the history and ritual behind it. Yet they claim to be the owner. How can something you owned be more mastered by a stranger?
That means it's either you lied or you failed in ya task