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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by charsoso: 10:17pm On Nov 29, 2023
KingKO22:
Ordinarily, when you take a look at Lagos, it is surrounded by Yoruba land from Egba, Awori to Ijebu and Sagamu

So the Binin kingdom jumped all the entire Yoruba land from Ore, to Ijebu and Sagamu and found a place in another man's kingdom

The fact that you settle in a place doesn't make you the owner.

This history mainly pointing to the fact that Edo kingdom are from Yoruba land.
The names of their founder Kings are Yoruba names

The Binis got to Lagos (Lagos Island) via the sea. And according to history it a was argely an uninhabited island, they settled and later named it EKO which translates to war-camp in Benin language. And during that period there was no bridge and therefore Lagos island was disconnected or perhaps isolated from the mainland where the Aworis were said to be predominant

Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:18pm On Nov 29, 2023
Padipadi:

Since they fabricated the Izoduwa or Ekaladerhan story, Benins have been filled with unnecessary jealousy of Yorubas.
All their stories defied logic and reasoning. Looking at their kingdom, Yoruba language, culture, practice etc dominated it with so much shame on them that they don't know the deep meaning of those words in their language, those practice or the history and ritual behind it. Yet they claim to be the owner. How can something you owned be more mastered by a stranger?
That means it's either you lied or you failed in ya task


If Ooni of Ife turns up in Benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of Benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa that got lost

They did not mention the Ekhalerderhan and izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by JOemmy(m): 10:20pm On Nov 29, 2023
Biodun556:
Why is Ogiso of Benin salivating over Lagos IGR?

Where are your Bini people in Lagos?

Which land are they occupying?

Aworis, ijebus, Egun and Egbas own Lagos with prove of land ownership


What about the oba of Lagos that claimed Bini heritage?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Donaldoni: 10:21pm On Nov 29, 2023
lexy2014:


Is the Oba of Benin right about the founding of Lagos?

Nope

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Alamu5891: 10:22pm On Nov 29, 2023

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Morphinne: 10:22pm On Nov 29, 2023
GO0DHardDick:
The entire Yorubas have been barking and ranting in agony and lamentation ever since the great oba of Benin made this shocking revelation.

I'll urge the Yolubas to respect their host as Lagos state and most Yorubaland belongs to the binis and are equally founded by the binis.

P.S no yooluba miscreant should quote, else you'll be seriously Ignored
At this rate you are going ehn my friend, your m@dness will be the most renowned in the history of mankind grin You go soon start to dey pack paper from Lagos enter Port Harcourt.
So the developers are no longer the owners of Lagos? grin

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by SonOfDSoil01: 10:22pm On Nov 29, 2023
thatigboman:
this ogbomosho man, go back to your fatherland. U are a stranger to Lagos.
grin you lack sense, maybe because of your flat head cheesy is lagos in Biafra land? Have some shame Osu man…your ancestors tried and they failed and here you are inheriting their failure grin

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:22pm On Nov 29, 2023
JOemmy:



What about the oba of Lagos that claimed Bini heritage?


Oba Of Lagos is an Ijesha man

Princess Erelu Kuti's Son Ologun Kutere the 4th Oba Of Lagos was an Ijesha man

Princess Erelu Kuti's Son Ologun Kutere who was the 4th Oba of Lagos and his father Alagba were both of Ijesha lineage
The Ijesha too had their own Settlement in Lagos called Abule Ijesha

If you even look at Oba Akiolu's appearance and his Comical behavior it is not difficult to believe that he has Ijesha lineage he even often acts like one and his father Alagba were both of Ijesha lineage

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by DECLAN2015(m): 10:28pm On Nov 29, 2023
onosbaba3310:


You get time dey follow them argue? I don't know if they lack comprehensive skills or they just choosed to be foolish, simple English Dem begin dey talk trash up and down even their so called educated noYorubas

They were their and they met people their but allow them due to their royalty..and remember also that yoruba generally blv that bini itself is of yoruba cos of oranmiyan .bini and yoruba are joined at the hip
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by VEHINTOLAR: 10:29pm On Nov 29, 2023
Iykenuwa:



Facts you can research:

1. Up till around 2013, the Lagos state official website stated clearly that Lagos was founded by the Benin Kingdom.

2. The origin of the Awori's: they were in Ife with Oduduwa in the palace and left Ife after his death to other places. Some versions say they actually came with Oduduwa to Ife and remained his closest companions: meaning, they most likely came from wherever Oduduwa came from originally. (Benin believe Oduduwa was their son, if that is correct, then that will explain why the Awori's received the people of Benin with open arms in Lagos.)

3. When Kosoko was dethroned by the British, some of his children and followers returned to Benin, and were offered a place to stay near the palace, that street is still in Benin today: Lagos street. They returned to Benin because they knew their origin, even the Oba of Lagos made this same claim a few years ago.

4. The Bajulaiye family in Lagos is an extension of the Bazuaye family in Benin, visit them and ask.

5. At the height of the Oyo Empire, its boundary with Benin was in Ekiti, meaning, places like Ekiti, Ondo etc, were all under Benin administratively.

6. Oranmiyan went to Ife because the people of Benin had gone to Ife to request that Oduduwa return home to rule after the demise of his father in Benin, but he refused saying he had already settled in Ife, and sent his own son, Oranmiyan instead.

Oranmiyan went to Benin, had some difficulties, and left to found the Old Oyo Empire. He did not found Benin or its kingship, his Father Oduduwa was a Benin Prince.



I will continue if you are able to refute any of the above with facts.

Stop making noise,everything you wrote is gibberish;good only for the dustbin ! Just one point knocks off all the nonsense you laboured so hard to type : Oduduwa was NEVER a Bini man !

Now,explain to us how he must have lost "his Bini language" while wandering in the wilderness,enroute Ile Ife because he neither spoke nor understood Bini language or dialect ! Before you think of any lie to tell,make sure that it is a very good one ! The reason for that advice is; inside the Palace of Ooni and some other sacred places in Ile Ife,there were (are still) some ancient writings and letters,quite similar to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs,it was reported that Oduduwa understood those foreign letters and writings. Similar ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs look-alike letters and writings were equally discovered inside the sacred Osun Osogbo Groove !

Was it your missing "Izoduwa" who wrote those ancient hieroglyphs,Bini man ?

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by flokii: 10:29pm On Nov 29, 2023
Benin no get level anywhere near Yorubaland.. they are irrelevant in the scheme of things where Yorubas are talking.

Imagine the fvcking guts of their Oba to say Benin founded Lagos.. na Aworis go still tidy una las las.

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:31pm On Nov 29, 2023
christistruth01:



Oba Of Lagos is an Ijesha man

Princess Erelu Kuti's Son Ologun Kutere who was the 4tg Oba of Lagos and his father Alagba were both of Ijesha lineage
The Ijesha too had their own Settlement in Lagos called Abule Ijesha

If you even look at Oba Akiolu's appearance and his Comical behavior it is not difficult to believe that he has Ijesha lineage he even often acts like one
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Smooyis(m): 10:31pm On Nov 29, 2023
Ok o. Then you were conquered and chased out by the yorubas. Even igbo sef dey claim Lagos. Nothing wey person no go hear. grin grin grin

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by jrusky(m): 10:37pm On Nov 29, 2023
FiraO9:
Coneheads(Yorubas) will create different threads, bark, wail, cry, and groan bitterly on SM and none of it will take a bit of an effect in reality.

I don't just know who cursed miscreants from the tribe of a fallen demon that majority of them now behave like clowns.

Set awon brainless things.

You are a compound fool and exceptional idiot. What is Benin and what is Lagos? Oduduwa son became first king in Benin yet my Benin inlaw refused to accept Yoruba descedancy but now same Benin want Lagosian too to accept they founded Lagos whereas Lagos has be existing before Benin traders arrived in Lagos but a fool like you instead to read and understanding started embarrassing yourself displaying a blunt ignorant.

You are insulting the Yorubas are they nor better than your tribe claiming Jews they can't even defend or show any proof?

Listen and listen good this is a case of Palestinian claiming they owned Isreal land but failed to read the part of the Islamic history that said 600AD Mohammed came with his useless Jihadist war and overtook East Jerusalem and annexed it to Palstenian so the question is who did Mohammed fought Jihadist war with, goats or elephant or birds?

Same way some fools says Mary Slessor discovered River Niger, pls how Is the River and the habitat not living their before Slessor came?

Mr man Lagos is a Yoruba land Eko was just an island inside Lagos then so pls use your senses....

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:38pm On Nov 29, 2023
thatigboman:
this ogbomosho man, go back to your fatherland. U are a stranger to Lagos.


It is you your father is talking too not us !

Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Basic123: 10:38pm On Nov 29, 2023
thatigboman:
it's only cry that u can cry. After crying, go back to your grandfather's cassava farm in osogbo.
See this Agulu slave 😆

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Ogene001: 10:39pm On Nov 29, 2023
Neddyogu:


According to ur write-up, some Yoruba groups predate Oduduwa. So hw come Oduduwa is held as the progenitor of the Yoruba people? Need more insight
So called educated tribe mixing up rubbish and calling it history. The whole yoruba academia can't come up with unbiased objective history
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Abagworo(m): 10:40pm On Nov 29, 2023
christistruth01:
cool


Boda Seyi Law Thank you Jare

Let us add more

Moba Yorubas were settled in Moba Lagos well before the 9th Century before Oduduwa whose Son Oranmiyan established the Benin Throne and Kingdom was Born
They are currently classified with the Awori people but we're in Lagos many Centuries earlier

In the 10th Century when the first Owa Obokun of Ijesha fetched from the Lagos Sea Water to cure Oduduwa's blindness there were already Moba Yorubas. In Lagos and he spent 2 months with them
The idol Worshippers Olokun diety was actually a Moba King called Seniade that ruled from an Island off the coast of Lagos that has now been Submerged by the Sea.
The Moba built the UNESCO world heritage 9th Century Eredo Wall near Ijebu and their kingdom included many Islands off the Coast of Lagos

They have now been included with the Awori people but we're actually the Original Inhabitants of Lagos and were in Lagos Centuries before Oduduwa was Born

The Oore of Otun Ekiti migrated from Moba in Lagos

Moba is near Victoria Island and their Crown predates Oduduwa's own


Yorubas forefathers might not have been great at Technology but God Almighty definitely gave them Prodigious History Art and Music
All Glory be to God Almighty





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7SXJzGuLM?si=r9vlK6L3Z4NEXAEn

But we were thought this in history

Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:40pm On Nov 29, 2023
Ogene001:

So called educated tribe mixing up rubbish and calling it history. The whole yoruba academia can't come up with unbiased objective history

If Oba Of Benin goes to Claim Onitsha now your own go pass this
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Ogene001: 10:42pm On Nov 29, 2023
Benwallt:


The real Lagos land has been exhausted long ago due to unimaginable development and expansion. Lagos, very soon will swallow Ogun State and extend to Ibadan.
And you think others are folding their hands and their land are bush fallows? Are you familiar with Demographia ranking of urban areas worldwide?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:42pm On Nov 29, 2023
Abagworo:


But we were thought this in history


Oduduwa was a real person he was the first Oba Of the Oduduwa dynasty of Ile Ife kings

Even the Oba Of Benin Praise names agre that Oduduwa was his father

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Ogene001: 10:43pm On Nov 29, 2023
Padipadi:

That's when you ll know that the calmness of Yorubas isn't cowardice. People like you ll be profiled as terrorists. Shoot at sight.

Yorubas don't give a fûck about one Nigeria. If it want to break, it should shatter into pieces!
You will be severely dealt with after Tinubu. We all know your people are the real secessionist
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by lexy2014: 10:44pm On Nov 29, 2023
Donaldoni:


Nope
kindly explain why he is not right
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by lexy2014: 10:45pm On Nov 29, 2023
christistruth01:


If Oba Of Benin goes to Claim Onitsha now your own go pass this

what exactly did the Oba of Benin say that is wrong?

did he claim anywhere as his own?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by lexy2014: 10:48pm On Nov 29, 2023
jrusky:


You are a compound fool and exceptional idiot. What is Benin and what is Lagos? Oduduwa son became first king in Benin yet my Benin inlaw refused to accept Yoruba descedancy but now same Benin want Lagosian too to accept they founded Lagos whereas Lagos has be existing before Benin traders arrived in Lagos but a fool like you instead to read and understanding started embarrassing yourself displaying a blunt ignorant.

You are insulting the Yorubas are they nor better than your tribe claiming Jews they can't even defend or show any proof?

Listen and listen good this is a case of Palestinian claiming they owned Isreal land but failed to read the part of the Islamic history that said 600AD Mohammed came with his useless Jihadist war and overtook East Jerusalem and annexed it to Palstenian so the question is who did Mohammed fought Jihadist war with, goats or elephant or birds?

Same way some fools says Mary Slessor discovered River Niger, pls how Is the River and the habitat not living their before Slessor came?

Mr man Lagos is a Yoruba land Eko was just an island inside Lagos then so pls use your senses....

if you say that "Oduduwa son became first king in Benin" was that "first king in Benin" the one that gave birth to all the Binis that present days Binis now have to trace their ancestry to him?

also, is the Oba of Benin wrong in his claim that the Binis FOUNDED Lagos?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Donaldoni: 10:48pm On Nov 29, 2023
lexy2014:
kindly explain why he is not right

No time
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by lexy2014: 10:51pm On Nov 29, 2023
Donaldoni:


No time

why is there no time?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by christistruth01: 10:53pm On Nov 29, 2023
lexy2014:


if you say that "Oduduwa son became first king in Benin" was that "first king in Benin" the one that gave birth to all the Binis that present days Binis now have to trace their ancestry to him?

also, is the Oba of Benin wrong in his claim that the Binis FOUNDED Lagos?


There were Yorubas in Lagos before Oduduwa
was born

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Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by lexy2014: 10:57pm On Nov 29, 2023
christistruth01:



There were Yorubas in Lagos before Oduduwa
was born

thats not what I asked you.

1. if you say that "Oduduwa son became first king in Benin" was that "first king in Benin" the one that gave birth to all the Binis that present days Binis now have to trace their ancestry to him?

2. also, is the Oba of Benin wrong in his claim that the Binis FOUNDED Lagos?
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Maski87: 11:04pm On Nov 29, 2023
Benin people founded lagos and Benin republic period
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by jaxxy(m): 11:08pm On Nov 29, 2023
Lol
Re: Eko Founders’ Controversy: Academics, Olota, Lagos Chief Tackle Oba Of Benin by Kukutenla: 11:12pm On Nov 29, 2023
Segzy19:
Thank God nobody mentioned the 'developers' and Igbos in the history of Lagos... Otherwise, we for no hear word again...

Fact have been paid bare, and records have set straight. Lagos belongs to Awori people who are YORUBAS...

Let me not hear pim from anyone again on this matter...
Pim

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