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Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:30am On Dec 02, 2023 |
As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co.... The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded 1 Like
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Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by CoronaVirusPro: 5:32am On Dec 02, 2023 |
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Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Fira10: 5:35am On Dec 02, 2023 |
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Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by CoronaVirusPro: 5:49am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 7:10am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Benin was created by Yoruba when Oranmiyan arrived. It was Oranmiyan and his Senior brother that left to Edo state but his Senior brother conquered Useh (formally Ife kekere) and established an Oba in Useh. Oranmiyan proceeded to present Egor local government defeated the Ogiso family their and created Obaship in Igodomigodo land that he called Ile ibinu now known as Benin. Technically Yoruba own present Benin not even Ogiso (Aborigines) Ekaladeran. Was killed never got to Ife. Oduduwa was not the father of Oranmiyan. 2 Likes |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 7:18am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Gregyboy. I am sure you have never been to Lagos in your entire life. Where your Ogiso of Benin claimed he founded in Lagos is not upto 3%, of Lagos. Do you know Lagos is a state? Ikeja the capital city and d most important places has no trace to Benin. Give kudos to the Yoruba that founded up to 20 towns in Edo state. Anytime you're using the word "Benin" have it at the back of your mind you're using a Yoruba word. Even if you used it has your tribe. 2 Likes |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by mascot87(m): 7:27am On Dec 02, 2023 |
What I sha know is that them no born una papa well to come take over Lagos. Make una continue wallowing in delusion. Na una papa problem be that |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 7:59am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: Haha.. You are not new here when we beat tao11 out of nairaland u saw all of it as it unfolded yet you still come at me with thesame lies I have scrunitize And renderd useless over the years, the most painful part is that you saw it unfolded why you still dare to challenge me with the same old lies baffles me I will engage you because you're not a youngster here so I will let it slide Please read and digest those writeup in the screenshot I sent ... Benin influence was not pronounce in most place in lagos apart from lagos island which was the sit of power this does not mean ikeja and it's environs was not under the Benin command, mind you it was only 3 general that was stationed in lagos after it was brought down by the Benins, so don't expect 3 people to influence the entire landmass of the present lagos state The third screenshot shows that the entire yoruba and the ijebu people was influence and feared by the oba of Benin command 1 Like
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Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 8:08am On Dec 02, 2023 |
gregyboy: I didn't read d screenshot it was too tiny for me. But have told you anytime you're mentioning Benin you have mentioned Yoruba same anytime you Mentioned Useh you have Mentioned Yoruba. The question I am asking you is Are you Igodomigodo or from Ogiso? Because Before Oranmiyan, Oba and Benin kingdom. it was Esan, Urobo, Ijaw, Igodomigodo and Igbo ruling Edo state as Ogiso there was no Bini town and Bini tribe then. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Lovemeharder(f): 8:09am On Dec 02, 2023 |
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Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 8:09am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Do you even know the Kingdom Ile-ife founded? You can't compared to that of our own Yoruba (Oba of Benin). |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:26am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: You can download and expand it Read it so it will kill the little ego you think you have don't be afraid read it, Speaking of igodomigodo did you read my writeup all you're just hell bent on making sure Benin must be yoruba by force I threw a question at the ending I will give you another one to add to it. How come throughout history the Europeans that took and noted every Benin war and culture ever notice when the oba of Benin was carrying the heads of the previous oba to Ife But notice how Benin dominate the ebtirw yoruba people Lastly provide me any historical evidence that date back 1897 to 1914 that support any firm of Benin and Ife relationship If you can't then you're simply wanting to force Benin as yoruba to massage the yoruba ego |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 10:34am On Dec 02, 2023 |
gregyboy:It is not that Benin must be Yoruba it is the Monarchy of Benin and their chiefs that is Yoruba. The settings of the Omo N'oba of Benin is typical of any Yoruba town. Each time you mention Benin know for the fact you're mentioning Yoruba to me. If you mention Ogiso, Ijaw, Esan, Iduland, Igodomigodo, Urobo and Igbo (Aborigines of Edo) I will know you're not making reference to Yoruba). There's no ego about it. Edo palace knows that Ife established Obaship in Ile-ibinu. Itsekiris and other Delta tribes will tell the true Benin history very soon if you people doesn't want tell the truth. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 10:41am On Dec 02, 2023 |
There's almost no town that doesn't gave birth to smaller towns in Yoruba today that's what made South west to be big. We have Yoruba towns in Benin republic, Togo and Edo state. All the towns knows their history except Benin that wants to make it as if the Founded Oba by themselves. Go and ask Ogiemen family, Usen town they will tell you d truth about Benin history. The Ekaladeran story is to avoid Oba of Benin paying his dues of Igodomigodo land to the Ogiso family. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 11:26am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: Evidence eeeh.. No evidence move.... The setting of oba of Benin is yoruba name the setting Na by force you won turn our oba to yoruba man |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by ecolime(m): 2:28pm On Dec 02, 2023 |
"The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co...." ![]() This guy is definitely on Kolos 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:45am On Dec 03, 2023 |
ecolime: Qoute me directly don't be scared repeat what you said |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Tjra: 6:53am On Dec 03, 2023 |
A lenghty piece of thrash |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:37am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Tjra: It won't be trash if the narrative says oba of Benin is a yoruba man without evidence |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Tjra: 8:46am On Dec 03, 2023 |
gregyboy:It will still be a thrash if you say "Benin people too dey lie" You painstakingly wrote a piece but messed it up by rubbishing an entire tribe with your title. Not a good way to pass message no matter how much you loathe the other people. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 9:14am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Tjra: Am a proud bigot... So as many yorubas who are skilled on it as well |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Padipadi: 12:14pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
CoronaVirusPro:How do I defend you here now? Instead of you to learn history you are allowing a Benin gay-tool to troll you. Now learn as I bail you out of this thread. No mind the Benin boy. The story he posted here was different from the account of the kings. He no even reference who's Eweka's dad? Benin carrot dîck boys here, who's the father of Oba Eweka? And I v more questions for you all. All those ogiso, ogiamwen etc. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Padipadi: 12:15pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
gregyboy:Now sftu! I v history that tallied with that of ya king. But here's a question for you kid. Who's the father of Eweka? |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by AreaFada2: 12:52pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
gregyboy:@gregyboy, I commend your patience. But it seems you have to educate many generations of history twisters. Sadly, many of those arguing history thinking it is Yoruba patriotism don't know their GENUINE family history beyond 4 generations. Not to talk of history as a whole. Many are even Tapa slaves in Yoruba land originally. They are not interested in any objective discussions. Years ago, I proudly narrated my Edo and Yoruba side for all to know that I have every reason to be objective. I wanted to be a bridge builder. But for most of them only lies and bigotry will do, so na waste of time. Very sad. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by KingOKON: 1:24pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Mraphel: Ile wetin.... whatever you are fantasizing just drop it |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by KingOKON: 1:31pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
gregyboy: Shey Oba don tell Dem final final for inside Eko? Now people from ogbomosho okitipupa oshogbo go de run dem like say dem be lagosians They were paying heavy tax to the Oba, only the Eguns of Badagry get mouth for Lagos every others were paying tithes while any chief must report to the obas palace for certification |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 1:32pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
KingOKON:Na Yoruba get Bini. Ooni even said it. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by KingOKON: 1:34pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
gregyboy: The man/woman if don be professor of Yoruba lies by now 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 1:36pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
KingOKON:Nobody dey pay tax for Oba. It was Oba of Benin that used d island to sell Edo slave captives into slavery. Yoruba was collecting tax from the Oba bf he came to fight them off to prevent tax. Idu people from Edo state were sold to slavery by Oba palace in Idumota in Lagos. |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by KingOKON: 1:37pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Mraphel: Which Yoruba be that, becos when the Oba de run things with Europeans from ondo down to Eko bin de pay tax to the Oba |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by KingOKON: 1:40pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Mraphel: Ogbeni keep quiet, which slaves full Brazil and the Caribbeans up till these days? Shey Dem tell you the Oba sell any of his people or na you obas de kill themselves over slaves |
Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by Mraphel: 1:44pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
KingOKON:Your Oba ancestors were using d island to sell Edo people especially Idu people into slavery using the island nothing more but Yoruba/Awori normally collect tax because of their Lagos island is used. Oba only used war to stopped Yoruba intimidation on the Island they never founded Lagos. 1 Like |
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