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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:36am On Dec 28, 2023 |
iamoyindamola: The problem is the Igbos still suffer this stuff. E nor get how you wan wish for am to dey overlooked because the reality on ground is different. Apparently the man is not some nobody and these days that talking about Igbos in a derogatory manner is now a normal thing has shown that they (Igbos) are not being unnecessarily in their feelings. The last election still fresh now. The solution to this and I hope it happens is either the igbos make themselves like the Jews. You talk anyhow, you receive consequences as e dey hot. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:45am On Dec 28, 2023 |
From "standing on your mandate", Tinubu's strongest and closest allies are already making a case for his failure and blaming "saboteurs" in the event that Tinubu's administration fails. https://www.nairaland.com/7950658/hold-saboteurs-responsible-tinubu-government Seems familiar? Same excuse Buhari's allies gave even in his first tenure when the handwriting became obvious. You know what's even familiar and interesting at closer look? Tinubu's allies were the same as Buhari's allies so it's the same people, the same playbook, the same excuses. ------ "How are you sure we won't have the same excuses with Peter Obi?" "What would Obi differently?" 8 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:54am On Dec 28, 2023 |
liveLongNprospa:Why not tell the Igbos to stop marrying outside of their tribe to avoid see finish I asked you a question you simply avoided will you have brought this up if the woman is Hausa? You also said the man is not just anybody who is he let's check him out to validate his rants 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:55am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy:The blame game started earlier than expected Them no even wait till 2024 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:02am On Dec 28, 2023 |
liveLongNprospa: Even if it were true, they'd be no consequence. The Igbos aren't even united to begin with. She's Imo and reminded so by other Igbos. Even in Imo, there's a disdain for Mbaise people, and their women especially. Until Umahi, Ebonyi folks were treated like rags by other Igbos, and a lot of Ebonyi folks hid their origin. Being from Abakaliki meant being ridiculed by people in Ariaria Market, Aba as "one who eats sewage rats and backward". Or Nnamdi Kanu not being worthy enough to lead a Biafra movement because he isn't from Anambra or Enugu which are seen as the de facto superiors or leaders of the Igbo people. Everyone here knows the slurs different Igbos subgroups tag themselves. Need I mention the discrimination amongst themselves during elections, civil service recruitment, episcopal leadership, and royal ascendancy due to ancestral connections to different subethnicities of the Igbo tribe? Even if it were true, other people would continue to get away with using them as the butt of sociopolitical jokes without consequences until the instances I stated above are eliminated or reduced to the barest minimum. The Yorubas have done this to a large extent. The Ijaws have done this. (Warring as people like to think they are, they do not promote intra-tribal superior subethicities.) Just a few tribes who have overcome this or have mostly overcome this. Some know this but I can state it in my usual blunt manner, and we know it's the truth. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:06am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy:Are you saying if they want to implement prosper's solution they will first turn on each other This one weak me sha |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:13am On Dec 28, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:Yes! And I'd repeat it on any forum, the hysteria and faux outrage it'd generate regardless. We all are thinking it, most know it's the truth, but most don't want to stir the hornet's nest. I don't mind doing so sometimes. Ask the average Anambra or Enugu guy what he thinks about the Mbiase people and Awara(?) people of Imo State, and you'd be shocked. In 2023, these people still think some subethnicities of their tribe are inferior and you think they'd unite. Didn't you notice the argument between Okpansukka and Izu who are both Igbo weeks ago? The subethnic superiority undertones? It's just one small example. They have to first eliminate the subethnic prejudice amongst themselves before they can tackle the intertribal prejudice. It's controversial and it's going to make people uncomfortable, but it's the truth. 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:45am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: Can you kindly show me where there was subethnic superiority undertone in what we were arguing about that day? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:57am On Dec 28, 2023 |
3 weeks ago. Immediately the subethnic rivalry became heated, OkpaNsukka, one of Obi's most visible and staunchest supporters, was ready to sacrifice and ridicule Obi in appeasement of Chimaroke of a party he opposed on the altar of subethnic jingoism. All that staunch support for Obi went out the window in a second and Obi was no longer the best Nigeria had to offer in 2023 in that instant of blind rage. Soon enough, Airmark and others were quoting OkpaNsukka to mock Obi. OkpaN.sukkaisBae: OkpaNs.ukkaisBae: See, man, I don't like to personalise this. I don't do emotionality too. You should know by now that I don't reference what I don't have evidence for. Everyone who read the back-and-forths could read the undertones. Don't deviate from the central point with whataboutism. This isn't an attack on you but an example to buttress the argument. I don't deviate and won't. We all know what the central point is. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:02am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: If this is your proof of subethnic superiority undertones, then i must really overrate you much, or you clearly don't know what you're talking about so you repeat lies to pass it off as truth. Everything we dragged that day was clearly about developments. You can create any hypothesis in your head and pass it off as theory; that's your business. But please, stop lying. Doesn't look good on you, and besides, nobody will beat you on a faceless forum 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:09am On Dec 28, 2023 |
And here we go with the emotionality. Completely ignored the slurs other subethnicities tag on some like the Ebonyi people, Mbiase, Awara... Or why people from certain states peopled by the same tribe think themselves superior to their tribesmen based on their bio-geolocation accidents which we call "state or place of origin". Is this the part where we do 10 pages of arguments so we can completely befuddle the viewing public and hide the points raised so far, and in the paragraph above? Isn't that the play of women to ignore the main points while focusing on a miniscule part to emotionally blackmail? I'm immune to this. No! When I make an argument, I only focus on the main point(s) and do not deviate or get distracted. Emotionality doesn't work with me. Stay on topic. Ariaria Market boys in Aba are still ridiculing " Onye Abakaliki" even this minute. Same tribe. That's the point. End the subethnic prejudice so you have a united front to fight whatever intertribal prejudice there is. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:14am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: The only reason i quoted you is because you lied about something I didn't say. You can categorise every LG in the SE as hating each other; I seriously have no problems with that I won't even join the argument. But you lied on my moniker to buttress your point. Stop lying, especially on a faceless forum. That said, carry on. I am following your comments. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:20am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: But none of Okpa and Izzou made mention of Mbaise, Awara or any other word that may indicate any subethnic undertone in that their discussion that day na. The only thing they were arguing about was whether Enugu was as developed as Okpa was claiming. As much as Okpa used to go off tangent, he didn't in any way make the argument about his subethnic group being superior to Izzou's As an independent third party, the only thing I can deduce was that argument that day was that Okpa is willing to keep aside his support for Obi at the Federal level to defend his home state Enugu. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:26am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: Give us data to backup your conspiracy theory.? Give us examples where Igbos show massive hate/superiority to their kins? Mayor of Aba is from Anambra.. Mbaise people are one of the most educated group...(Imo has d highest literacy rate in Nigeria) They also have beautiful women everywhere. If na politics, Imo is currently the SE governors forum chairman, a position previously held by Ebonyi under Umahi. Late Amb George Obiozor was president of Ohaneze until he passed on. Iwuanyanwu tookover from Obiozor cox Imo neva finish her tenure. We cherish & welcome competition e no mean say we no love other. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:30am On Dec 28, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:But he did bring her tribe into it sha, maybe you no just watch the video |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:32am On Dec 28, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:A lot has been said about his wife's tribe before now. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:41am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Theflint1: Na man political detractors dey always come up with issues about the woman's tribe and her age. I don't even know why people always do that shiiit. Kayode Fayemi's wife is older than him, Akeredolu's wife is older than him. Both of them don't have issues with that fact, but na outsiders dey always complain and make issues out of it. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:42am On Dec 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:Wife wey Akeredolu go likely don give instructions with e dying breath make she ensure she secure the bag |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:46am On Dec 28, 2023 |
izzou: Now and again, Disstroy goes off a tangent and it's funny to see, wouldn't be as funny if he didn't go doubling down. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:54am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Theflint1: U get! Person wey appoint his own son as DG of a state government agency; shey na that one go come dey emote instead of asking his family to secure the bag while they can? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:56am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: Na offline u dey go. I dey ridicule my senator, my ex governor. No go dia. I countered Izzou cox i know for a fact that as a governor, infrastructure is not Obi's biggest selling point. When it comes to that he's on par with Chimaroke. I voted for LP, house of assembly, Reps, Senate & governor. They all emerged victorious except their presidential candidate & gubernatorial candidate who lost with less than 3.5k votes. The argument has nothing to do with subethnic jingoism. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 10:56am On Dec 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:The easiest way to play politics in Nigeria is to appeal to base sentiments, and it tells a lot about who we are as a people. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:03am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Again, Reddit still doesn't do a good job of news aggregation like Nairaland, and I proved it with screenshots as it's limited to only interests you select and a rabbithole. And this is from me who is proven to use it for more serious things than football news in your screenshots. You are still hurt about that even though you agreed with me in the end. ---- Igbo subethnicities still ridicule themselves and aren't united. This is a fact. A thousand quotes and peddled emotionality won't make me deviate. I don't argue deviations, only the main points I set out to do. Not even if you make the attack personal would I deviate as I have proven time and again, including on this thread. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:11am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Iamoyindamola This is what I was saying about that Plataeu state attacks that day. There is always attacks and reprisal attacks between the indigenes and Fulani settlers. This reprisal attack now is targeted at the Fulani's in retaliation for the Christmas attack. https://www.nairaland.com/7951151/reprisal-attacks-plateau-very-graphic Their leaders really need to find a workable solution to their problems, if not things will continue this way and it can only get worse |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 11:13am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy:Is there anyone who feels otherwise? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:15am On Dec 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: No be even abt defending your home state. The ex governor is from Nsukka but he failed massively. In Nsukka majority share d same opinion. If na like dat i go dey defend Ugwuanyi over Chimaroke. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 11:17am On Dec 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:20am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Okpa really said "Infrastructure is not Obi biggest selling point" Wonders shall never end. Is it the same Chimaroke na him Okpa dey defend abi another one? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:21am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:22am On Dec 28, 2023 |
Izzou Thunder fire you. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 11:24am On Dec 28, 2023 |
GrammarNazi1: They don't want to argue it but would focus on the Okpa - Izu debacle to make the point obscure. The endpoint is to deviate. Haven't you noticed how the initial response to LiveLøngNProspa has been deliberately ignored to focus on the minority issue? It's deliberate and I'd have furthered that goal if I jumped into fray. Muddying the waters is a tactics I understand too well. Women do it frequently enough for any man not to understand the benign intention. If I were of another very distant ethnicity/tribe/region, the play would have been tribalistic tags to make me cower even when we know that isn't the point. The hysteria is just theatrics. I know this, you know this, we know this. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:24am On Dec 28, 2023 |
DissTroy: Nobody is debating whether Igbo's love themselves or not, I'm sure every tribe has its own version of interethnic discrimination. You went off tangent by trying to build your argument off a non-existent proof (1 + 1 != Eba) BTW anybody can aggregate news that's 4hrs stale and present in list form, it's not exactly a selling point |
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