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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:54pm On Jan 09
Unlimited22:

Finally. I've always wondered why.

Obasanjo no follow anyone fight for democracy, he was actually mocking those pro democracy activists during MKO issue(MKO is not the messiah), but when Democracy reach na him first benefit. They brought him from prison to come chop president

Plus his role in unseating Ladoja for Alao-Akala as Oyo state governor, After which Ladoja ran to Tinubu who helped him win OBJ in court

OBJ wan use military bulldozer style for everyone but Tinubu steadily was using court to counter him (including the FG vs Lagos state on creation of LCDAs, withholding LG funds etc)

At a point anyone having a problem with Obasanjo as president, na Tinubu dem go run to even Atiku as sitting Vice president when OBJ wanted to impeach hm and denied him PDP ticket, Tinubu gave him AC ticket
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblemm: 4:57pm On Jan 09
Sportsweb:
I don't have anything to say to you bro, you re just Wike ass licker
it's insanegrin,if too say en dey benefit directly I for understand.

Nigga just licking the booty straight up no reward ,I rather simp for girl than to for politicians grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 5:02pm On Jan 09
Ballzproblemm:
it's insanegrin,if too say en dey benefit directly I for understand.

Nigga just licking the booty straight up no reward ,I rather simp for girl than to for politicians grin
I'm just seeing his dumb and arrogant predictions during PDP Pres Primaries..that's more valid reason not to listen to him one bit.. He is just a Pro Wike boy.

Won't be surprised he is area boys for Wike, those way de fallout for his bidding
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:02pm On Jan 09
Why is Davido always involved in all these type of controversy

E be like say his privileged upbringing denied him some real street action and he is always seeking for it
“The events of that day have also led to a barrage of calls and messages from our mutual connections, asking me what I did to MR. DAVID ADELEKE that he’s upset that I chose to maintain a relationship with Imade’s mother, Sophia Momodu who he’s having issues with.

“And also painting the exchange to look like I was the aggressor. [b]He has also told our mutual connections to warn me to be careful in Lagos because he was going to f**k me up
.[/b]
https://www.nairaland.com/7964089/tiwa-savage-files-petition-against
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:04pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


Obasanjo no follow anyone fight for democracy, he was actually mocking those pro democracy activists during MKO issue(MKO is not the messiah), but when Democracy reach na him first benefit. They brought him from prison to come chop president

Plus his role in unseating Ladoja for Alao-Akala as Oyo state governor, After which Ladoja ran to Tinubu who helped him win OBJ in court

OBJ wan use military bulldozer style for everyone but Tinubu steadily was using court to counter him (including the FG vs Lagos state on creation of LCDAs, withholding LG funds etc)

At a point anyone having a problem with Obasanjo as president, na Tinubu dem go run to even Atiku as sitting Vice president when OBJ wanted to impeach hm and denied him PDP ticket, Tinubu gave him AC ticket

How can Obasanjo fight for democracy when he himself was in prison while the fight for democracy was ongoing ?

U know Obasanjo being elected president in 1999 is just to pacify Yoruba's for the death of MKO na.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:04pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


He has 2years to do all that. He is the governor, He can easily switch delegate list or discard and reapprove another delegate list, Choose direct or indirect primary. or make the venue of the primary to be in his Governors house

Unless Wike can control the PDP National to gegenpress Fubara out of the party which looks very unlikely at this point, Even if that should happen, Fubara can decamp to APC if APC and PDP blocks him then that is where the wahala starts. If he is very strong he can even move to a new party like Orji Kalu moved to PPA and made TA Orji win

Fubara has enough time to plan things, Wike with his gragra don give am enough time

If Wike stays in Tinubus good books there is always the Federal might option on election day

1yr to last election, Wike looked like a sworn enemy of APC by election day things changed

Why does it look unlikely? Remember that the governors control the party. Not noise makers like Daniel Bwala and Dele Moomodu.

Of the PDP governors, Makinde, Bala Mohammed and Fintiri are his allies.

Peter Mba of Enugu is a protege of another ally of Wike.

Edo will likely be lost to APC.

Delta and Akwaibom are first time governors and I'm not sure where their loyalty lies.

You are left with Diri and Adeleke.

The court has even just affirmed his right hand man Sam Daddy as the national secretary of the party.

Who is this person that will make it unlikely for Wike to control PDP national? Why do you think they have been unable to suspend him?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblemm: 5:05pm On Jan 09
Sportsweb:
I'm just seeing his dumb and arrogant predictions during PDP Pres Primaries..that's more valid reason not to listen to him one bit.. He is just a Pro Wike boy.

Won't be surprised he is area boys for Wike, those way de fallout for his bidding
na them grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:08pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


Obasanjo no follow anyone fight for democracy, he was actually mocking those pro democracy activists during MKO issue(MKO is not the messiah), but when Democracy reach na him first benefit. They brought him from prison to come chop president

Plus his role in unseating Ladoja for Alao-Akala as Oyo state governor, After which Ladoja ran to Tinubu who helped him win OBJ in court

OBJ wan use military bulldozer style for everyone but Tinubu steadily was using court to counter him (including the FG vs Lagos state on creation of LCDAs, withholding LG funds etc)

At a point anyone having a problem with Obasanjo as president, na Tinubu dem go run to even Atiku as sitting Vice president when OBJ wanted to impeach hm and denied him PDP ticket, Tinubu gave him AC ticket

Anyone who thinks objs support for obi comes from a good place is on a long thing. Obj is just pissed that that small midget stubborn gomina from Lagos who refused to bend the knee has prevailed
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:08pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


How can Obasanjo fight for democracy when he himself was in prison while the fight for democracy was ongoing ?

U know Obasanjo being elected president in 1999 is just to pacify Yoruba's for the death of MKO na.

Obasanjo was jailed in 1995 coup. Before that there have been many pro democracy fights going on from 1993 and OBJ has always been dismissal of them even sometimes favoring military continuation

OBJ was not the choice of Yorubas Falae was. OBJ in 1999 did not win his ward, his LG his state nor anywhere in his region. His choice was more to spite Yorubas given his role in antagonizing any Yoruba politician be it Awolowo Abiola or Tinubu

Its like saying you want to give Ibos presidency to pacify them and pick Joe Igbokwe

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:10pm On Jan 09
Itsrm:


Why does it look unlikely? Remember that the governors control the party. Not noise makers like Daniel Bwala and Dele Moomodu.

Of the PDP governors, Makinde, Bala Mohammed, Fintiri are his allies.

Peter MBA of Enugu is a protege of another ally of Wike.

Edo will likely be lost to APC.

Delta and Akwaibom are first time governors and I'm not sure where their loyalty lies.

You are left with Diri and Adeleke.

The court has even just affirmed his right hand man Sam Daddy as the national secretary of the party.

Who is this person that will make it unlikely for Wike to control PDP national? Why do you think they have been unable to suspend him?

So what is the goal of National PDP to allow Wike (who is 1 leg in APC) to dictate their affairs unless its to lose

Wike is standing on Jagaban mandate, PDP National will want to win presidency in 2027. So how will that happen?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:12pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


Obasanjo was jailed in 1995 coup. Before that there have been many pro democracy fights going on from 1993 and OBJ has always been dismissal of them even sometimes favoring military continuation

OBJ was not the choice of Yorubas Falae was. He was more to spite Yorubas given his role in antagonizing any Yoruba politician be it Awolowo Abiola or Tinubu

Its like saying you want to give Ibos presidency to pacify them and pick Joe Igbokwe

Obasanjo was never friends with MKO, that is a given. So everyone knows where Obasanjo's opposition of Abiola's mandate was coming from.

It was the military that decided to put one of their boys who was Yoruba and Obasanjo fitted that profile for them.

U made it seem like Obasanjo became president by his own design and not the military boys pulling the string.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:13pm On Jan 09
GloriousGbola:


Anyone who thinks objs support for obi comes from a good place is on a long thing. Obj is just pissed that that small midget stubborn gomina from Lagos who refused to bend the knee has prevailed

OBJ will never allow or willingly let any Yoruba person surpass him. Be it Awolowo MKO or Tinubu

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:14pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


So what is the goal of National PDP to allow Wike (who is 1 leg in APC) to dictate their affairs unless its to lose

Wike is standing on Jagaban mandate, PDP National will want to win presidency in 2027. So how will that happen?
I feel like PDP has chosen the waiting game, play dead, wait for APC to implode, and then they make their play. I don't see any scenario in which Wike and his goons don't collect for this level of open treachery against the party, for PDP not to have acted, I want to believe it's them bidding their time. Atiku/Saraki/Tambuwal faction seems to have control of the party.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:16pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


Obasanjo was never friends with MKO, that is a given. So everyone knows where Obasanjo's opposition of Abiola's mandate was coming from.

It was the military that decided to put one of their boys who was Yoruba and Obasanjo fitted that profile for them.

U made it seem like Obasanjo became president by his own design and not the military boys pulling the string.

He was a willing tool in their hand. I am sure he had the option of declining the military pick. Military puled the strings of a willing OBJ.

Always him Against Awolowo, Against MKO, Against Tinubu. Who are the prominent SW politician that can say they rose through OBJ?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:16pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


OBJ will never allow or willingly let any Yoruba person surpass him. Be it Awolowo MKO or Tinubu

But Awolowo is greater than OBJ already na. Awolowo in my books is the greatest Yoruba leader there ever was till date.

He's done more for the Yoruba race than any living or dead Yoruba person had done. It doesn't matter whether he ruled Nigeria or not
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:18pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


He was a willing tool in their hand. I am sure he had the option of declining the military pick. Military puled the strings of a willing OBJ.

Always him Against Awolowo, Against MKO, Against Tinubu. Who are the prominent SW politician that can say they rose through OBJ?

Obasanjo was never a politician. He's a military man and it showed in how he handled issues even as a civilian president.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:22pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


So what is the goal of National PDP to allow Wike (who is 1 leg in APC) to dictate their affairs unless its to lose

Wike is standing on Jagaban mandate, PDP National will want to win presidency in 2027. So how will that happen?

PDP governors were negotiating with Buhari in 2019 to give him 25% in all their states. That's how Buhari got the spread. The same thing will happen in 2027. Lets not deceive ourselves, there's no one who does not know Tinubu will win in 2027.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:24pm On Jan 09
Theflint1:
I feel like PDP has chosen the waiting game, play dead, wait for APC to implode, and then they make their play. I don't see any scenario in which Wike and his goons don't collect for this level of open treachery against the party, for PDP not to have acted, I want to believe it's them bidding their time. Atiku/Saraki/Tambuwal faction seems to have control of the party.

PDP is a dead party. Their lifeline was federal money.

Who is carrying the party now? As far as I could tell it was wike who carried the party from 2015 to 2019. It is unfortunate that wike is not a statesman or a gracious host, so we had all sorts of outbursts

It is worse when you consider how the party folded for Atiku and Saraki in 2019. These two punks gave the party a death blow in 2015,and yet you bring them in and give Atiku presidential ticket

My money is on pdp devolving into a northern party. After the nonsense they played on wike during the primaries no SS governor will be motivated to drop money for people who he cannot count on in future.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 5:25pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


OBJ will never allow or willingly let any Yoruba person surpass him. Be it Awolowo MKO or Tinubu

You just summarized the issue and dropped the koko inu irohin.

OBJ would rather support a Hausa or Igbo person rather than allow a Yoruba person surpass him or get to a position before him. He had special beef for those from his state like Abiola who was his secondary school mate.

On the international stage if a Nigerian is going for a top post that OBJ would have liked for himself at some other time, don’t be shocked to see him supporting a Ghanian or Tanzanian instead.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Jan 09
Theflint1:
I feel like PDP has chosen the waiting game, play dead, wait for APC to implode, and then they make their play. I don't see any scenario in which Wike and his goons don't collect for this level of open treachery against the party, for PDP not to have acted, I want to believe it's them bidding their time. Atiku/Saraki/Tambuwal faction seems to have control of the party.

Truth is that in politics without money you are useless, And the way to have money is to be in power and have access to the purse of a state or FG cos Politics cost money

The controllers of purses in PDP currently more of them are in Wikes corner. The longer Saraki Tambuwal stay out of power the less access they have to money and gradually become irrelevant. Atiku though has everlasting money

If say you are a Saraki boy in Oyo state, he cant even influence anyone to get govt chops for you, So what will sustain you and the people (structure) following you for the next 3yrs? Before long that structure will follow anyone who go settle them

See most of the governors set of 2007 to 2015, Many of them who are not either in Senate or in good terms with current governors are becoming irrelevant (See Mimiko, Chime, Uduaghan Fayose Oyinlola, Akala Elechi etc) never mind those wey dey out of power before then (1999 to 2007)

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:27pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


But Awolowo is greater than OBJ already na. Awolowo in my books is the greatest Yoruba leader there ever was till date.

He's done more for the Yoruba race than any living or dead Yoruba person had done. It doesn't matter whether he ruled Nigeria or not
That talk of OBJ not wanting any Yoruba man to be greater than him his sketch, especially with an Awolowo who's widely regarded as the greatest Yoruba leader. Also, I'm sure he must have known from the get-go that the South West was next after Buhari given their role in ousting Jonathan, yet that didn't stop him from going against Jonathan. I will buy OBJ having grouse with Tinubu personally, but not the Yoruba race as a whole as is being suggested...reads like a milder version of the OBJ is an Igbo man story.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:29pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


Obasanjo was never a politician. He's a military man and it showed in how he handled issues even as a civilian president.

Buhari AbdulSalam IBB were all military men and see how dem carry the case of anything North for head

Buhari will act dumb to everything, let anything happen to one Fulani man anywhere even if in India you will see his action Even if you nack your Fulani babe beyond normal 2 rounds, Buhari go interfere to defend his sister

Have you ever seen OBJ stand for any of his kinsmen before? Awolowo MKO were from his state, what was his relationship with them?

How many people will OBJ point to that he raised up? OBJ go be like your uncle wey be MD for company ask him for help in getting a job and he will direct you to go apply online
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:35pm On Jan 09
GloriousGbola:


PDP is a dead party. Their lifeline was federal money.

Who is carrying the party now? As far as I could tell it was wike who carried the party from 2015 to 2019. It is unfortunate that wike is not a statesman or a gracious host, so we had all sorts of outbursts

It is worse when you consider how the party folded for Atiku and Saraki in 2019. These two punks gave the party a death blow in 2015,and yet you bring them in and give Atiku presidential ticket

My money is on pdp devolving into a northern party. After the nonsense they played on wike during the primaries no SS governor will be motivated to drop money for people who he cannot count on in future.

That is the only play that makes sense for them now. SE will rather follow LP or show indifference which will lead to APC dominating there, of 5 SE states 2 are led by APC, 1 APGA 1 LP 1 PDP unless Obi joins forces with Atiku next election the results will be APC winning again

APC is trying to break into SS. I see APC winning Edo, with Akpabio also eyeing bigger spots with APC in the future he will have to start delivering.

The only sensible play for PDP is to go fully Northern and try to get ahead of APC towards 2027 and 2031 when it will rotate to the North
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 5:42pm On Jan 09
Itsrm:


I be one man mopol cheesy

grin

.....Gbayi Baba mi. Melenbe Melenbe - if it didn't dey, it didn’t dey.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 5:44pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


Yes he is

....Anyone wey want confess/expose should start doing it now, no be say after MOG don logout we go dey see trending stories on Twitter and YouTube o.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:48pm On Jan 09
raumdeuter:


Buhari AbdulSalam IBB were all military men and see how dem carry the case of anything North for head

Buhari will act dumb to everything, let anything happen to one Fulani man anywhere even if in India you will see his action Even if you nack your Fulani babe beyond normal 2 rounds, Buhari go interfere to defend his sister

Have you ever seen OBJ stand for any of his kinsmen before? Awolowo MKO were from his state, what was his relationship with them?

How many people will OBJ point to that he raised up? OBJ go be like your uncle wey be MD for company ask him for help in getting a job and he will direct you to go apply online

Buhari is a tribalist and he doesn’t hide it .

IBB and Abdulsalam have not been actively involved in politics since their respective retirements other than they endorsing whoever goes to them for endorsement during election season.

Except u are asking Obasanjo to become like Buhari who would look away while his kinsman is getting on the wrong side of the law. If we want a better country we would not wish all leaders should be like Buhari .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:51pm On Jan 09
OasisX:


....Anyone wey want confess/expose should start doing it now, no be say after MOG don logout we go dey see trending stories on Twitter and YouTube o.

One guy who used to be an insider exposed Chris on nairaland long ago. Let me look for the thread.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:52pm On Jan 09
OasisX:


....Anyone wey want confess/expose should start doing it now, no be say after MOG don logout we go dey see trending stories on Twitter and YouTube o.
https://www.nairaland.com/4722699/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-accused-hiring
https://www.nairaland.com/1893751/10-terrible-scandals-pastor-oyakhilome
https://www.modernghana.com/news/216384/christ-embassy-concealed-sex-scandal-exposed-part-iii.html
https://www.pulse.ng/communities/religion/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-church-member-accuses-christ-embassy-founder-of-performing/3b98yyp
https://saharareporters.com/2014/09/03/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-denies-adultery-accusations-threatens-sue-journalists
Nigerian preacher and healer Pastor Chris Oyakhilome has been accused by a member of his own church of staging miracle healing sessions.

Some of his followers have said that he has been hiring people to pretend to be sick and disabled and then “be healed” during his television shows and public prayer meetings.
A man who did not want to be identified for security reasons said: “I was offered R10 000 to rehearse and pretend to be in a wheelchair three weeks before the all-night prayer called Night of Bliss at the Johannesburg Stadium.”


Just google Chris Oyakhilome sex scandal or Chris Oyakhilome fake miracles

E boku for internet from 15yrs and longer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a5L5k9Okk4

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 5:53pm On Jan 09
Itsrm:


One guy who used to be an insider exposed Chris on nairaland long ago. Let me look for the thread.


Here

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 5:54pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


Buhari is a tribalist and he doesn’t hide it .

IBB and Abdulsalam have not been actively involved in politics since their respective retirements other than they endorsing whoever goes to them for endorsement during election season.

Except u are asking Obasanjo to become like Buhari who would look away while his kinsman is getting on the wrong side of the law. If we want a better country we would not wish all leaders should be like Buhari.
Simple. Their grouse with OBJ was that the man wasn't an ethnic jingoist, no more, no less.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:55pm On Jan 09
Theflint1:
That talk of OBJ not wanting any Yoruba man to be greater than him his sketch, especially with an Awolowo who's widely regarded as the greatest Yoruba leader. Also, I'm sure he must have known from the get-go that the South West was next after Buhari given their role in ousting Jonathan, yet that didn't stop him from going against Jonathan. I will buy OBJ having grouse with Tinubu personally, but not the Yoruba race as a whole as is being suggested...reads like a milder version of the OBJ is an Igbo man story.

Yeah OBJ and Tinubu had their issues the same way OBJ and MKO had their issues .

I don’t even see why anybody will say OBJ didn’t want Awolowo to be greater than him when almost every Yoruba person agrees Awolowo is one of the greatest Yoruba leader that ever lived .

I guess OBJ’s sin is the fact that he doesn’t align with tribal politics like dem Buhari would do. For example OBJ would not retire high ranking military officers so that a Yoruba would be in line to be the COAS or any other top military chief .

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:55pm On Jan 09
BlueRayDick:


Buhari is a tribalist and he doesn’t hide it .

IBB and Abdulsalam have not been actively involved in politics since their respective retirements other than they endorsing whoever goes to them for endorsement during election season.

Except u are asking Obasanjo to become like Buhari who would look away while his kinsman is getting on the wrong side of the law. If we want a better country we would not wish all leaders should be like Buhari .

It doesnt have to be a tribalist to raise your own people up

OBJ was President 3 times, Who can we point to that was raised by OBJ? Awolowo will point to Bola Ige, Jakande, Ajasin etc, MKO will point to the likes of Tinubu. while Tinubu will point till his hands falls off

Who will OBJ that ruled longer than any of them point to?

Like I said that your MD uncle that will point you to company portal will also say he doesnt want to be tagged a nepotistic person. He knows what to do, and he does it for others just not for you

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