Is pastor not getting paid?

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Yes. Cos pastor's are paid

Very soon Una go pay congregations too!

This is a simple matter. I'll answer by asking a few questions.
1. Should people who clean the church be paid?

2. Should ushers be paid?
3. Should members who control traffic at church gates be paid??
4. Should I be paid for devoting my time to attend church?

Time is money. True or false?
If I should be paid for playing drums, it is like asking for a percentage of the offering and tithe I gave.

Service in church is an OFFERING to God. It is done as an act of faith. Without faith, it is like throwing away time or wasting money. God says if we offer our time and resources, he opens the windows of heaven. If you don't believe God's scripture literally, then you have no business attending church, praying or giving offering. An investment savings account will yield better returns. Without faith, God will give you nothing.

So the answer is that, services to God, can only be paid for by God to whom the service is offered. But if the instrumentalist enters a contract to provide a service to the pastor or church as a body for financial gain, then he must be paid. He receives his reward there and then.

The other side of the coin is that, modern churches today, expect church workers to dress in uniforms. The church has to support them as much as possible, especially if these clothes expensive, so as not to place an extra burden on the members. Jesus said "my burden is light".

In addition to this, charity must begin in the church. Members who God has blessed must start their charity from people who are engaged in the service of the lord. In Acts of the Apostles, early Christians brought their resources to be shared with the brethren.

A final question is, but full-time pastors are paid., so why not pay instrumentalists. The bible says he who does not work, should not eat. Full time pastors are engaged in the church office everyday of the week, preaching on service days, counselling on other days, and attending to other church missions eg.administration of church schools, pastoral missions to new parishes, and general administrative work. Part time pastors are not paid from church accts. Instrumentalists are workers or in the extreme case, part time ministers.

In summary, our service is unto God and not man. We must be careful not to be deceived by false teachings in the world and lose our reward. God bless you.

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

If thatis what they do for living, why not

Church is a scam, crooked people who calls themselves pastors keep all the donations and thithes money, while his gullible worshippers work for free. religious slaves, these fools would not accept to work for free in their jobs or anywhere else but would be happy to work for free in churches, what is the difference between churches, restuarants, bars, supermaket, shops, nightclubs or hotels?

You got it. Believers today have diverse perspectives to the wirship of God: some see their service to God as business(spirituality monitised), others as a calling for selfless service with heaven as reward, etc...which ever side is pitched by believers will actually be rewarded by God Himself hereafter.

Hollyharjii:
It depends on one's perspective

Paid by your church...No
Paid by other churches if invited to play.. Yes

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
 

It's very simple, if the pastor is paid for his ministry, then all other workers should also be paid. Thats only being fair.
But if the pastor is offering a free service then the choir and instrumentalists should also sacrifice.

I believe this issue depends on some important factors.

1. The financial strength of the church
2. The conviction of the musician in question
3. The length of time the musician would be required to put into church music work
4. Is Music for the musician a God-called fulltime gospel music ministry or it is just a hustle?

The church may want to pay but sincerely doesn't have the resources to keep the musician. In such case negotiations can be reached based on the four factors listed above.

Hence no need to drag this matter. Both the church and the musician can always come to a deal that benefits the body of Christ.

NB: Both the church musical objectives and the musicians welfare are important in the body of Christ

This is a musical instrument. To play this, you will spend a lot money and time. Music is subject like law and medical professions

It depends on the individual instrumentalist in question, whether it's a full-time job to him or not or just an hobby or likes.

Professionals should be paid. Trainees can go without payment but as a professional you deserve to be paid.

What does the church do with all the money? It only support the expensive lifestyle of the pastor and nothing else. You are building someone's dream and you need to be paid so you can live your dream too.

KingNom:
If that's the only job they do

but who does playing instruments as a main full time job in Nigeria

I know of one of my guy who plays keyboard and guitars, very gifted and talented, he plays for free at his own church. But he would charge fees for other churches outside or any other events outside

That's not a question to answer cause is it not from the church money that the pastor and his family lived on?

Should pastors be paid too ?

Meel:
The mode of operation of the church matters. In Churches like MFM, The apostolic faith, and Deeper life, almost all the choir members can play an instrument or two. This style makes every member valuable and indispensable. The reason most churches pay there instrumentalists is because they desire a play but doesn't have members capable of doing such. Hence, they attract this guys with money.

Every worker in the vineyard contributes equally in the sight of God. Therefore, each of them should be treated equally. If you're to pay instrumentalists l, then pay ushers, cleaners and co. But the reality those are dispensable and not skilled workers.

You have a good point but you forgot to add the pastors. If you pay the pastors, then why shouldn't you pay other workers. All are ministers of the kingdom.

During my days as a young boy I was so committed to church programs and I was the church drummer for 3years.i thank God for giving me the opportunity to serve him.but our church Rev insisted that his son get paid for playing organ in the church, while other instrumentalist were left out. But check our life's now and our Revs son life the difference is very much clear. so serving God with true heart pays, and you should not be disappointed

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

Righthussle:
Ok

PLEASE READ Nehemiah 13:10-12 AND EXPLAIN TO US.

The pastors are paid.

So, you can pay gospel music artist, comedians, to come perform in your church, pay pastor honorarium for preaching but to pay a worker for using his gift or talent in church now attracts divine penury??


This is what Jesus was talking about when he was speaking about the parable of the hypocrite.


Pay the fervent worker the wage due to him/her, allow him sort his/her heavenly reward with God, after all you are still gonna demand he brings his tithe or you begin to say otherwise...........

Wait till they start protesting you go know say there will be no dancing in church on sundays

That means the church should also pay the ushers and the choir

This is the way I see it, if it was the church's instrument(s) that was used to learn then I don't think that church should pay but if you spent your time and money to learn from outside, then the church should pay.

However, you should be diplomatic and ask God for wisdom on how to go about such request from your church.

The obvious truth is, show me a church that cares about the welfare of her instrumentalists by placing them on weekly/monthly stipends and I would show you a church with good and powerful music 🎤 🎶

God is not a robber.

While I find it weird that church instrumentalists or choir members would demand to be paid salaries, I totally don't believe that receiving payment as an instumentalist in church can or will make anyone poor. That's BS!

Dididrumz:
Yes, Sir.

Reasons coming up later.

I am waiting.