patrickmuf:
Thank you so much for the bolded.

Folks keep talking about the APC as if it is a person. 80% of politicians in the APC were once in the PDP so, it has more to do with the class of people we elect to lead us than the party and our knack for not holding elected officials accountable.

Even if LP had won, the national assembly would have frustrated Obi and who's to say most of these crop of failures wouldn't have decamped? It is the sad reality of the society we find ourselves, see Doyin Okupe who was indicted by the anti-graft agency rose to the level of campaign DG all because he has the resources. If Atiku or Obi had won, they'd easily welcome into their fold someone from the APC who was a former governor/senator/minister than elevate a modest party faithful. The system rewards people with no values.

Looking ahead, will the average Nigerian demand good governance instead of asking for crumbs from politicians?

Will the average Nigerian grow above ethnoreligious bias when the law catches up with someone from his/her ethnic group?

When I served in Osun State, I got to meet one of Aregbe's SAs from Ipetumodu in Ife-North LGA. Every other weekend he comes home, and the whole community flocks to his compound, they have to cook from Friday to Sunday when he departs and not just that, he dispenses cash freely. So, where exactly do the people think he gets all that money from? Also, how will they be able to ask questions about the government he works for after eating their cake?

Nigerians first need to set our priorities right. To demand accountability is to reject the crumbs but seemingly, it is a big ask for Nigerians...

Normally I don't like to chook mouth in this kind talk, but on this one I would like to share my opinion. Firstly I agree with izzou on the fact that we need to cultivate the habit of voting out a party if they failed or didn't meet up to our expectation even if it's just to send a message to those people who populate the party at that point in time.

To buttress my point, I will use the Fulani Herdsmen crisis as a case study. Yes I'm aware Fulani Herdsmen-Farmers crisis has been a re-occurring issue in this country, but it never became as serious as it was under Buhari's 8 years. Yes there are rumors that the Fulanis who are terrorizing people across the country were actually foreign mercenaries brought in by APC to force Jonathan's hand if he had plans not to concede defeat in 2015. I won't dwell much on the rumor since there's no way to confirm its genuineness, but the body language of Buhari and APC as a party over the past 8 years has shown they don't have what it takes to stem the tide in the escalation of these Fulani herdsmen attacks.

Yes I'm a Yoruba boy but I served in the North West at a time the entire north viewed Jonathan as a Southerner who didn't care about the boko Haram insecurity issue in the North East that time. The South and the entire North (North west, North Central and North East) agreed it was the right thing to send PDP being led by Jonathan parking because he has not shown enough grit to nip the Boko Haram issue in the bud and they voted the party out. In fact some of those in PDP with Jonathan who agreed with that viewpoint left PDP and moved elsewhere.

Now fast Forward to 2023; Boko Haram did not only refuse to die in the hands of APC, but so many other insecurity issues grew exponentially under them including the Militarization of the Herders-Farmers crisis where herders now carry automatic weapons resorting to killing people and burning down villages/farmlands, different non-state actors in the Southeast and Southwest engaging in kidnapping for ransom/killings and even Banditry in the North West.

It makes absolutely no sense to me that people will know all of these aforementioned facts and then still look at APC as the party that will solve these myriads of problems that grew under their watch for 8 years when majority of those who formed the party are still there . E no just make sense to me.

izzou:


Then leave the side walks for normal people, and walk on the expressway.

Na una dey cut people slippers for Lagos Island

Lagos is not for the weak

Eko a gbagba kugba ; If u snooze u lose .

Only God knows how much dem go dey sell Turkish office shirt now with all this exchange rate madbess. 🤦‍♂️

Nowadays if dry cleaner spoil ur shirt like this na to use DSS carry am cos na matter of National security.

BlueRayDick:


Normally I don't like to chook mouth in this kind talk, but on this one I would like to share my opinion. Firstly I agree with izzou on the fact that we need to cultivate the habit of voting out a party if they failed or didn't meet up to our expectation even if it's just to send a message to those people who populate the party at that point in time.

To buttress my point, I will use the Fulani Herdsmen crisis as a case study. Yes I'm aware Fulani Herdsmen-Farmers crisis has been a re-occurring issue in this country, but it never became as serious as it was under Buhari's 8 years. Yes there are rumors that the Fulanis who are terrorizing people across the country were actually foreign mercenaries brought in by APC to force Jonathan's hand if he had plans not to concede defeat in 2015. I won't dwell much on the rumor since there's no way to confirm its genuineness, but the body language of Buhari and APC as a party over the past 8 years has shown they don't have what it takes to stem the tide in the escalation of these Fulani herdsmen attacks.

Yes I'm a Yoruba boy but I served in the North West at a time the entire north viewed Jonathan as a Southerner who didn't care about the boko Haram insecurity issue in the North East that time. The South and the entire North (North west, North Central and North East) agreed it was the right thing to send PDP being led by Jonathan parking because he has not shown enough grit to nip the Boko Haram issue in the bud and they voted the party out. In fact some of those in PDP with Jonathan who agreed with that viewpoint left PDP and moved elsewhere.

Now fast Forward to 2023; Boko Haram did not only refuse to die in the hands of APC, but so many other insecurity issues grew exponentially under them including the Militarization of the Herders-Farmers crisis where herders now carry automatic weapons resorting to killing people and burning down villages/farmlands, different non-state actors in the Southeast and Southwest engaging in kidnapping for ransom/killings and even Banditry in the North West.

It makes absolutely no sense to me that people will know all of these aforementioned facts and then still look at APC as the party that will solve these myriads of problems that grew under their watch for 8 years when majority of those who formed the party are still there . E no just make sense to me.

If membership of a political party is founded on sound ideology then, I'd accept the argument that a party that fails should be voted out but that is not the case. Amaechi, Saraki and other PDP stalwarts jumped ship and were placed in exalted positions in the APC yet they still lampooned the PDP for being a failure, a party they formed a core of its fulcrum...

What happened to the PDP in the lead-up to the 2015 elections where Amechi and his crew decamped should have happened to the APC but the PDP missed the opportunity by handing over its ticket to Atiku. It just did not make sense that Atiku who is a Fulani man would succeed Buhari, another Fulani man, that move was a recipe for disaster and that is what prevented a lot of disillusioned politicians in the APC from leaving the party.

Obi and the LP on the other hand were not an option for these political heaveweights with influence and deep pockets, no thanks to the hate for the Igbo man. Truth be told, most people who did not support Obi in the North did so because of that seed of distrust planted in their minds and secondly, the LP did not have the political machinery to penetrate some of those places which would not have been the case if Obi had flown the flag of the PDP.

So, for me, I think the victory of the APC was more or less made easier by the miscalculations of the opposition...

Realmrsean:
Why can't cardoso crash naira on binance like he did the other time?

CZ no dey around again

You look at Doyin Okupe and his reason for leaving the LP and you realise that of truth people just jump ship looking for any vehicle (party) that will provide a platform to drive their political ambition. Otherwise, how will someone who was the erstwhile presidential campaign DG of the party say he left the party because of ideological differences...It goes to show you that regardless of the party at the centre, these politicians will shamelessly jump ship...

Roland17:


Our politicians have mastered the populace, them no rate Nigerians at all. There is no consequence for failure in Nigerian politics. Patapata, you take a break for a few to enjoy your loot. If they end up in jail, they are given palatial treatment there and are out before the end of their sentence, maybe forfeit a % of the loot.

We are wailing about APC who have been a disaster, but let me assure that if PDP or LP wins, those same criminals in APC will decamp and join the PDP/ LP or the winning party, so what gives?

Increase fuel to 2000/L, they know Nigerians will only wail but they will buy. Insecurity can meet everyone at their door step except the rich and politicians, nothing will change, they know Nigerians will only wail. This is especially sad for a country with the amount of educated citizens and tertiary institutions littered around the country.

I can go on and on. We need to start from the process that nominates these criminals for elective positions. Until parties begin to present credible and prepared candidates across all levels. Also, Our institutions are extremely weak, I keep saying this.

The state has been captured by these politicians, most especially these APC guys.

Prior to now, people could protest freely. But that is not the case anymore.

These parties have ideologies. The ideology of APC is hardship and retrogression. I hate the party so much that if my father buys an APC form I'll campaign against him.

So yes, party matters.

patrickmuf:
If membership of a political party is founded on sound ideology then, I'd accept the argument that a party that fails should be voted out but that is not the case. Amaechi, Saraki and other PDP stalwarts jumped ship and were placed in exalted positions in the APC yet they still lampooned the PDP for being a failure, a party they formed a core of its fulcrum...

What happened to the PDP in the lead-up to the 2015 elections where Amechi and his crew decamped should have happened to the APC but the PDP missed the opportunity by handing over its ticket to Atiku. It just did not make sense that Atiku who is a Fulani man would succeed Buhari, another Fulani man, that move was a recipe for disaster and that is what prevented a lot of disillusioned politicians in the APC from leaving the party.

Obi and the LP on the other hand were not an option for these political heaveweights with influence and deep pockets, no thanks to the hate for the Igbo man. Truth be told, most people who did not support Obi in the North did so because of that seed of distrust planted in their minds and secondly, the LP did not have the political machinery to penetrate some of those places which would not have been the case if Obi had flown the flag of the PDP.

So, for me, I think the victory of the APC was more or less made easier by the miscalculations of the opposition...

The bold is where our foolishness lies.

Where did the hate land us? If ur kinsmen has been president for 8 years and even in his home town kidnapping still happens does it make any sense to keep voting for him and whoever he endorses?

Obasanjo was president for 8 years and his people in Ogun state kept voting against him cos they didn't feel the impact of his governance in their state.

What a reasonable and logical person is expected to do is distance himself/herself from anything Buhari endorses in 2023 because of how disastrous APC's 8 years rule was under Buhari. But I guess Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity is right afterall that : "This is much certain, stupidity is in essence not an intellectual defect but a moral one. There are human beings who are remarkably agile intellectually yet stupid and others who are intellectually dull yet anything but stupid"

We need his brain, not his body

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Looks like people are advising the president to go after DOM accounts from various tweets by apc people😂😂

Omo.. I wonder how fast Zimbabwe will happen to us if that happens

CAPdan21:

This entire album is a masterpiece...Lauryn hill is goaTED

Unfortunately, she wasn't prolific. Never heard from her again

patrickmuf:
You look at Doyin Okupe and his reason for leaving the LP and you realise that of truth people just jump ship looking for any vehicle (party) that will provide a platform to drive their political ambition. Otherwise, how will someone who was the erstwhile presidential campaign DG of the party say he left the party because of ideological differences...It goes to show you that regardless of the party at the centre, these politicians will shamelessly jump ship...

Daniel Bwala comes to mind.

Even many in this thread lampooning this government and past government, will readily do the same, as long as they get paid...

What are these terrorists trying to do in Ekiti ffs?.. School children kidnap again, Chibok never end for how many years now..

See the people controlling naira 😆😆

But why can't Cardi B, set up like three to four merchants, supply them enough dollars and use them to control the rate.

Those three merchants can be selling 1$=1000, those niggars will be forced to sell at that rate.

Incognito9:
See the people controlling naira 😆😆

But why can't Cardi B, set up like three to four merchants, supply them enough dollars and use them to control the rate.

Those three merchants can be selling 1$=1000, those niggars will be forced to sell at that rate.

the way Dem go scoop any dollar below that rate you see there.. you go wonder if people still get money for this country

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

CrystalTiger:
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

No be this guy dem kidnap his brother that time?

Incognito9:
See the people controlling naira 😆😆

But why can't Cardi B, set up like three to four merchants, supply them enough dollars and use them to control the rate.

Those three merchants can be selling 1$=1000, those niggars will be forced to sell at that rate.

That nigga that set his ad at 1,600 should be arrested by DSS. He is a traitor to this country.

I expect our foolish government to borrow billions to force rate down. A reasonable government should set the exchange rate to be at the level where they can defend it.

The billions wasted to force the exchange rate down from 1,300 to 900 some months ago could have been used to defend it at that 1300 for a relatively long time.

A stable exchange rate for 7 months will have greater impact in our economy than trying to force exchange rate down which will only last a very short while.

BlueRayDick:




No be this guy dem kidnap his brother that time?

Na the mumu but it was staged sha..He carry am chop people money..

https://twitter.com/instablog9ja/status/1752640775731429857?t=v3aT69Ju7pXRElYt39fuAQ&s=19

Police is your friend

Glad there one's are sacked

But come to think of it, as how bad as the police looks, it's only the institution that openly takes action against their eerring officers or workers in Nigeria..

I've not seen doctors, lecturers, lawyers, teachers, or even politicians etc openly sack their personnel's for wrong doings

Incognito9:
We need his brain, not his body

😆

Lol

CrystalTiger:


Na the mumu but it was staged sha..He carry am chop people money..

I don't know why people think someone like him serious sha.

swiz123:


The billions wasted to force the exchange rate down from 1,300 to 900 some months ago could have been used to defend it at that 1300 for a relatively long time.

Unfortunate for those who didn't buy the dip when it went down to 900

BTW, dollar is still cheap at N1.5k

Please buy, Nigeria has no FX to defend Naira. We will see N2k this year and N3k is likely.

na that girl way convert her Japa money back to naira just they dey my mind I think dollar dipped to #800 when Cadbury was yarning dust,they told her to hold on she said she was glad to exist dollar with minimum loss.



oh well.

BlueRayDick:


The bold is where our foolishness lies.

Where did the hate land us? If ur kinsmen has been president for 8 years and even in his home town kidnapping still happens does it make any sense to keep voting for him and whoever he endorses?

Obasanjo was president for 8 years and his people in Ogun state kept voting against him cos they didn't feel the impact of his governance in their state.

What a reasonable and logical person is expected to do is distance himself/herself from anything Buhari endorses in 2023 because of how disastrous APC's 8 years rule was under Buhari. But I guess Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity is right afterall that : "This is much certain, stupidity is in essence not an intellectual defect but a moral one. There are human beings who are remarkably agile intellectually yet stupid and others who are intellectually dull yet anything but stupid"

Shebi na another party not named APC win Katsina Lagos Osun in presidential election these states voted APC in 2019

Is that not enough protest against APC by them?

Ibime:


Unfortunate for those who didn't buy the dip when it went down to 900

BTW, dollar is still cheap at N1.5k

Please buy, Nigeria has no FX to defend Naira. We will see N2k this year and N3k is likely.

Is it advisable to sell land and buy dollar to hoard against inflation?

patrickmuf:
You look at Doyin Okupe and his reason for leaving the LP and you realise that of truth people just jump ship looking for any vehicle (party) that will provide a platform to drive their political ambition. Otherwise, how will someone who was the erstwhile presidential campaign DG of the party say he left the party because of ideological differences...It goes to show you that regardless of the party at the centre, these politicians will shamelessly jump ship...

Okay let's punish PDP for example the other options in 2015 was APC

Yet Saraki Dogara Akpabio Amaechi who we are punishing are in the savior APC we want to punish PDP for

Obi Okupe GRV all former PDP goons are in Labor

Say APC failed, Kogi people want to punish Smart Adeyemi in next election, they get to the ballot paper meet the same Smart Adeyemi on PDP

Edo people want to punish APC for what Obaseki did to them in his first term, they get to ballot box to vote the alternative PDP, they meet the same Obaseki they are running away from

Kwara people in 2015 wanted to punish PDP by voting APC, they reach ballot met the same people they wanted to punish in PDP contesting as APC

Kano people want to punish Kwankwanso for PDP fuckupp in 2013 and vote APC, 2015 poll they meet him in APC, let's punish him in 2019, by 2019 poll they meet his name back in PDP, 2023 they meet his name in NNPP

Let's punish APC but any APC politician who lose favor quickly jump to the next party like Alex Otti who left APC for LP

By 2027 if anti APC sentiments increase and politicians see that APC will likely lose, the same APC people we are looking to punish will go to the alternative and you will end up voting for those you are seeking to punish

How do we punish Wike for example? By voting APC or by voting PDP?

https://www.nairaland.com/7986739/obaseki-moves-mend-fences-wike

Unless na the Alphabet offend us not the politician

So dangote refinery has no bearing again on the price of dollar?

Even before matter never cast reach this level I & E expert don give up