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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 10:09am On Jan 31 |
MightySparrow: What exactly are his argument/s? State them then we can scrutinise the validity. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 10:12am On Jan 31 |
TenQ: Simply restate |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:18am On Jan 31 |
SIRTee15:So actually believed a God can die God is weak too |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:31am On Jan 31 |
MightySparrow:But as christian you confused yourself because you forgot that Muhammed (S.a.w) is not educated, so how can he wrote a world wide book🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:33am On Jan 31 |
SIRTee15:But the bible is from God right |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 10:38am On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Do U want to learn about Jesus Christ? Do U actually and sincerely want to understand the divinity of Jesus Christ. I'm happy to teach u. Forget all those nonsense God can't die, God can't use the toilet, and other dawahgandist propaganda against jesus Christ. If U want to know about christology and Christophany, I'm happy to teach u. 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 10:40am On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Books in the Bible was written by men filled with the holy spirit and inspired by God to write down what they saw, witnessed and experienced about God. 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:52am On Jan 31 |
Here it is again: I have articulated the video for you here, what do you think? The summary is this: 1. The Jews boast that they killed Isa the Son of Mary 2. Allah is saying that this is not true because a. He was the one who caused it to be (if you like--through destiny) and as such, the Jews are only following the will of Allah (unknowingly) b. Isa is with him Alive in Paradise. The whole verse is to show that the Jews have no power to do other than what Allah has destined to be and that all their activities were preordained by Allah and not them. This is consistent with: Qur'an 3:55 Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ and Qur'an 19:33 There was peace on me the day I was born, and will be the day I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead." Of course, most of the scholars of Islam tries to misinterpret I shall cause thee to die, from Qur'an 3:55 as 1. O Jesus, I will take you to Myself 2. Lo! I am gathering thee 3. I will take thee for the word mutawaffeeka (متوفيك) which means "cause to die" This is the breakdown: that the Qur'an is NOT saying that Jesus did not die but the power of death and life is in the hands of Allah alone Thanks! honesttalk21: |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:52am On Jan 31 |
SIRTee15:Like song of Solomon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 When it teach us how to fiddling with Ladies |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:53am On Jan 31 |
MightySparrow:Na so o! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 10:56am On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Have U actually read songs of Solomon? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 10:59am On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Quran 66:12 And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts (Vagina) so We breathed in it (vagina) of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout. Is this holy Cunnilingus by Jibril? If Mary didn't see an Angel (come to her) but a man, how did he (Jubril) blow into Mary's Vagina? What is Jubril's mouth doing on the vagina of Mary? What was he blowing into Mary's Vagina? I am struggling not to imagine how Jubril has to plug his mouth to fit Mary's Vagina for the purpose of Blowing! Over to you! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 10:59am On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ:🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Continue explain Quran with your holy spirit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 11:04am On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020:You dont surprise me one bit as the spirit of deception and taqqiya is ruling your life. Your mantra: Don't confuse me with the Truth because I have already made up my mind! The average muslim is not concerned about the truth and he will sacrifice it just to hold on to the deception of Mohammed and his alias Allah! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 11:06am On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ:There is different between what you changed yourself and what is in the Quran And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her private parts (Vagina) so We breathed into her WOMB So what you did to your bible editing it anyhow we don't do that here...and also your bible said curse be to those that alter the book of God Gbam!!!! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 11:08am On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ:Am not confusing you but you already confused yourself by your statement 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 11:11am On Jan 31 |
SIRTee15:But bible said the word of God cannot be alter by man.. So how come the man wrote the word of God, if God established he wrote book for us and no man shall alter it. But some people actually writing the word of God |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 12:12pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020:It is about you who doesn't want to be confused with the truth because you have already made up your mind! A muslim with see an obvious Truth but reject it because it doesn't align with the Islamic standard narrative |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 12:14pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020:God did NOT write any book! Only in Islam is the Quran said to be the verbatim words of Allah! Have you read either the Torah or the Zabur or the Injeel before? Do they bear semblance to it being written directly by God!? Mohammed thought that because the Jews and Christians call their book the word of God, it means that it was dictated or written by God! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 12:19pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Quran 66:12 وَمَرْيَمَ ٱبْنَتَ عِمْرَٰنَ ٱلَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِنَا وَصَدَّقَتْ بِكَلِمَـٰتِ رَبِّهَا وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَكَانَتْ مِنَ ٱلْقَـٰنِتِينَ ١٢ What is the meaning of THIS : فَرْجَهَا And What is THIS: فِيهِ Is فَرْجَهَا the same as SLEEVE? Quran 66:12 And Maryam (Mary) daughter of Imran, who kept safe her Vagina/Vulva so We breathed in it of Our Spirit, and she sincerely (believed) in the Words of her Lord, and His Books; and she was one of the devout. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by NairaLTQ: 12:25pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020:Another lie! Mohammed can read and write sir! Why is your religion so full of lies? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 12:33pm On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ:Na you teach am Na you put am for school 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 12:35pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: Bring evidence where God said he wrote a book. I take God beg u...don't bring the Koran. Thank u. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 12:43pm On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ:See Mr twister The word you wrote there simple means to (female) guardyour chaste So you can twist it d way u like Not like your song of Solomon Your breast is bossom🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your breast is flat |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by MightySparrow: 12:49pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: So Jubril gave him wrong revelation? Dey play. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by MightySparrow: 12:50pm On Jan 31 |
honesttalk21: TenQ clearly did that. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 12:58pm On Jan 31 |
SIRTee15:If it's truly word of God as it's and it's proof itself.. And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God’s message were called ‘gods,’ Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar. You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you Are you now satisfied..... Then the questions is word of God written and re-written and revising by man adding and subtracting is contradictory with what is in the bible And there is curse for those who keep revising it Standard version Revised version Revised standard version Women bible version Awwwwn because the word of God cannot contradict but man with their self ideology the reduced the book fromn 80 to 66 chapters as if it's enough they start lately removed verses form the remaining 66books... Common men that no more word of God |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 1:00pm On Jan 31 |
MightySparrow:So you don't know the meaning of revelation again And to write I know you don't know the meaning of reveal from Recite and from write |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Antiislaam(m): 1:12pm On Jan 31 |
TenQ: Don't mind them, they will turn their own book upside down just to suit the level of their ignorant |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 1:13pm On Jan 31 |
Expanse2020: where in the verses u quote did it say God wrote a book. show me a verse that clearly states God wrote a book. commandments and prophecy doesnt mean God wrote a book. try harder. regarding the 80 v 66 books. what do u know about the deuterocanonical book? why were they rejected by judiasm and not included in masoretic text. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 1:52pm On Jan 31 |
NairaLTQ: Is it a fact that the Jews indeed killed many prophets? Is it a fact that Elijah was in danger as Ahab and Jezebel killed many prophets? Is it a lie that Elijah was saved from the killing by getting taken up to the heavens by a chariot? Now if Elijah was saved from a humilating death why not Jesus? Quran 3:55 states that Allah raised Jesus to Himself. It does not mention anything about Allah killing Jesus. The Arabic word “mutawaffeeka” (مُتَوَفِّيكَ) is pf the root word, “tawaffa” (توفّى), which has multiple meanings in Arabic, including “to cause to die,” “to take in full,” or “to complete.” In the context of this verse , use of “mutawaffeeka” does not necessarily imply death but rather refers to a different form of taking or completing. It is Allah taking Jesus in a special manner without experiencing death. Similar to Elijah and Enoch Also, the phrase “wa rafi’uka ilayya” (وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَىَّ) is also significant. It is translated as “and raise you to Myself.” This raising is understood to mean an elevation in status and honor rather than physical ascension. This interpretation aligns with the belief that Jesus was not crucified but was instead raised to the heavens without experiencing death. Attn. MightySparrow |
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