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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 8:58pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Lmao so a 5% increase from 2014 till 2023 shows that xavi was not the system but part of the system.
So that kills your original point.

Now let's talk midfielder to midfielder.
Who is better?
I have my stats to back up Kroos.
From chances creation to passing completion to final 3rd passes to defensive contributions. He is a controller who plays in the deepest part of the midfield.

What do you have for me for xavi

Kroos whose German team get flogged every tournament?

Before Xavi, every team has a midfield playmaker, and dominance was determined by how many times your playmaker could dominate the opposition team in midfield

Milan had Zvonimir Boban, Fiorentina had Rui Costa, Lazio had Veron, Juve had Zidane. You had Seedorf, Michael Laudrup, Prosinecki, Riquelme, Redondo, Guardiola, Valderamma, Thomas Hassler, Andreas Moller, Stefan Effenberg, Ronaldo De Boer, Juan Carlos Valderon etc

Every match you watch they were trading blows for midfield dominance. Rui Costa won the midfield against Zidane today, Hassler won the midfield against Redondo yesterday. Last week Valderon murdered Riquelme, today Seedorf edged out Veron, and few months ago Laudrup dominated Guardiola. The fun of football then was in seeing who will carry the day in midfield today

They were all playing musical chairs until Xavi came along and ended all bullshit. Xavi did not play games or compete with any of his peers. He dominated each and every one without exception and without fail, every single time. He made it boring.

That's why he is the greatest CM of all time.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 8:59pm On Feb 10
Itsrm:


That screenshot is from Kuda na. And note the use of "may not".

Emaprince also just confirmed Opay is having the same issue
Kuda said Polaris Bank has network downtime, i transfered to Palmpay using same Kuda and transfer was successful. Maybe their is a general network downtime sha, but my transfer to Palmpay was successful.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by joseph1832(m): 8:59pm On Feb 10
DissTroy:

Corn logic: Let's ignore the obvious tainting lie spewed by a support group of our party to focus on telling the opposition not to complain Peter Obi wasn't the only one mentioned in the lie.
But Peter Obi isn't the only one mentioned. grin

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 9:00pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

So wetin you go call Kroos then?

What is something xavi does better than kroos?
They are practically the same when it comes to ball retention and 1st touches.
Kroos maintains a higher percentage of passes completed and also has more chances created than xavi in UCL.
Infact Kroos dey create more chances than Messi for UCL.
Nobody has beaten him.

Kroos is a high volume passer even when madrid isn't a possession based team.
Kroos is also more defensive than xavi.
So again explain.
Kroos has been more consistent than xavi.
Infact before 2006, how many times did you really hear of xavi?
In the world cup they both won, both of them delivered for their national teams.
Oya enjoy this small clip first, you fit post Kroos own too ooh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UTweE7kpiw?si=RwjdiQ14T6rqlOWP
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:11pm On Feb 10
Damn! I slept for a few hours and Herbert Wigwe is gone 😒😒😒.

This one pain me ! It brings memories of sosoliso air crash that had Bimbo Odukoya , the PENGASSEN chairman and those Loyola Jesuit college students on board .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:17pm On Feb 10
TrebleChamp:
Oya enjoy this small clip first, you fit post Kroos own too ooh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UTweE7kpiw?si=RwjdiQ14T6rqlOWP
This is Kroos just for last season and some parts of this season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-PZ1utSBY?si=F65SHVbNL1vEwDs5
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 9:22pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

This is Kroos just for last season and some parts of this season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-PZ1utSBY?si=F65SHVbNL1vEwDs5

Kroos passes are similar to Scholes passes, Kroos is a very exceptional midfielder but Xavi remains the Controller-General of Midfield. No play in his generation comes close in that department....

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:23pm On Feb 10
Ibime:


Kroos whose German team get flogged every tournament?

Before Xavi, every team has a midfield playmaker, and dominance was determined by how many times your playmaker could dominate the opposition team in midfield

Milan had Zvonimir Boban, Fiorentina had Rui Costa, Lazio had Veron, Juve had Zidane. You had Seedorf, Michael Laudrup, Prosinecki, Riquelme, Redondo, Guardiola, Valderamma, Thomas Hassler, Andreas Moller, Stefan Effenberg, Ronaldo De Boer, Juan Carlos Valderon etc

Every match you watch they were trading blows for midfield dominance. Rui Costa won the midfield against Zidane today, Hassler won the midfield against Redondo yesterday. Last week Valderon murdered Riquelme, today Seedorf edged out Veron, and few months ago Laudrup dominated Guardiola. The fun of football then was in seeing who will carry the day in midfield today

They were all playing musical chairs until Xavi came along and ended all bullshit. Xavi did not play games or compete with any of his peers. He dominated each and every one without exception and without fail. He made it boring.

That's why he is the greatest CM of all time.

Bros where was xavi before 2006?
Did Toni Kroos deliver in 2014 for Germany at the world cup or not?
Mention 3 better players than Kroos in that German team?
As if xavi dominated through out his career.
Barcelona system of tiki taka died when iniesta left and not xavi because we saw what iniesta did in 2015 when xavi was mostly useless.

There's no passing stats you want to bring for xavi that I can't bring something of equivalence for Toni Kroos. Again don't forget Kroos has mostly played as the deepest lying midfielder and also dm.
Xavi has always had busquets to protect his ass.

Remind me when Casemiro left Madrid and what Kroos has been doing for the last 2 years.

If you are talking about dominance, Kroos led midfield has won 5ucl's while delivering it b2b2b.
What is a xavi

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:24pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

This is Kroos just for last season and some parts of this season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-PZ1utSBY?si=F65SHVbNL1vEwDs5


Kroos is a lazy player who could have been greater. He carries a bit too much weight and is a bit too heavy to make space for every pass like Xavi. Dominating play also involves stamina to keep moving ten yards left and right to open up for pass. Kroos rests a bit too much
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:25pm On Feb 10
The Wigwe's πŸ’”

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:25pm On Feb 10
TrebleChamp:
Kroos passes are similar to Scholes passes, Kroos is a very exceptional midfielder but Xavi remains the Controller-General of Midfield. No play in his generation comes close in that department....
Kroos is on a different level to Scholes.
Please abeg don't insult Kroos.

Kroos is a better passer and is way more consistent than Scholes was abeg.
Levels dey this thing
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:26pm On Feb 10
Ibime:


Kroos is a lazy player who could have been greater. He carries a bit too much weight and is a bit too heavy to make space for every pass like Xavi
Kroos is a lazy player?
Kroos?
The same player who is practically playing as a dm/playmaker this season.
Ibime e clear say you never watch Kroos in a long time.

Na Liverpool fans suppose talk about amπŸ˜‚
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Aturitoroman: 9:28pm On Feb 10
Kroos a lazy player? Lmao, the kind funny things we do read here

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Aturitoroman: 9:28pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Kroos is a lazy player?
Kroos?
The same player who is practically playing as a dm/playmaker this season.
Ibime e clear say you never watch Kroos in a long time.

Na Liverpool fans suppose talk about amπŸ˜‚
U dey mind am
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:29pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Bros where was xavi before 2006?
Did Toni Kroos deliver in 2014 for Germany at the world cup or not?
Mention 3 better players than Kroos in that German team?
As if xavi dominated through out his career.
Barcelona system of tiki taka died when iniesta left and not xavi because we saw what iniesta did in 2015 when xavi was mostly useless.

There's no passing stats you want to bring for xavi that I can't bring something of equivalence for Toni Kroos. Again don't forget Kroos has mostly played as the deepest lying midfielder and also dm.
Xavi has always had busquets to protect his ass.

Remind me when Casemiro left Madrid and what Kroos has been doing for the last 2 years.

If you are talking about dominance, Kroos led midfield has won 5ucl's while delivering it b2b2b.
What is a xavi

Go and rest. Barca stopped dominating in 2013/14 when Xavi started having Achilles problem. 2015 win was built on pragmatism and swift counters rather than tikitaka. Kroos is nowhere near Xavi in this life or next
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:29pm On Feb 10
Aturitoroman:
Kroos a lazy player? Lmao, the kind funny things we do read here
guy.. Ibime nor dey watch Kroos.
I just confirm am with that statement πŸ˜‚
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:30pm On Feb 10
BlueRayDick:
The Wigwe's πŸ’”

So only that girl remain?

Kai!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:33pm On Feb 10
Ibime:


Go and rest. Barca stopped dominating in 2013/14 when Xavi started having Achilles problem. 2015 win was built on pragmatism and swift counters rather than tikitaka. Kroos is nowhere near Xavi in this life or next

You must be pulling things out of your arse to think Barcelona's Triumph after xavi wasn't also hinged on iniesta performing in midfield. Iniesta showed how he was more important than xavi.
Kroos on the other hand has consistently demonstrated his level of importance.
He is 34 and we are begging him to renew.

Again
Kroos led midfield has delivered 5UCL while winning b2b2b. Brother that is dominance

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:38pm On Feb 10
izzou:


So only that girl remain?

Kai!

I read he has 4 kids; so I'm guessing he has 3 surviving children whose lives will never remain the same again .

Life will just humble u! Just last week his university made the news about their fees that are to be paid in dollars . All of that and more he has left behind. Chai!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:41pm On Feb 10
BlueRayDick:


I read he has 4 kids; so I'm guessing he has 3 surviving children whose lives will never remain the same again .

Life will just humble u! Just last week his university made the news about their fees that are to be paid in dollars . All of that and more he has left behind. Chai!

Kobe again
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Godx: 9:50pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:


You must be pulling things out of your arse to think Barcelona's Triumph after xavi wasn't also hinged on iniesta performing in midfield. Iniesta showed how he was more important than xavi.
Kroos on the other hand has consistently demonstrated his level of importance.
He is 34 and we are begging him to renew.

Again
Kroos led midfield has delivered 5UCL [m
while winning b2b2b. Brother that is dominance
Kroos the miracle worker leading Bayern midfield from house. Somebody that played only 30mins from quarterfinal to final led them. When they want to count top 5 important players in that Madrid run kroos won't even be mentioned.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 9:50pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Kroos is a lazy player?
Kroos?
The same player who is practically playing as a dm/playmaker this season.
Ibime e clear say you never watch Kroos in a long time.

Na Liverpool fans suppose talk about amπŸ˜‚

You can ask his coaches

raumdeuter:

I wanted to post something similar yesterday. I remember when Ulli Hoeness criticized Ozil as lazy and most concluded that he was racist and islamophobic recently Ulli has been attacking Kroos a white German with similar lines he used for Ozil. And he hasn't been called racist or any phobia because Kroos is white like him

raumdeuter:

I think that German midfield of Gundog and Kroos is too soft and France will punch through that middle with Kante's energy

I would have dropped Kroos or Gundogan to accommodate a more energetic midfield like Neuhaus or even Emre Can since Goretzka is injured

BlaqFaze:
Na because of Kroos Madrid foolishly spent 100m on TooMuchMoney because perez was desperate to replace kroos. Kroos was terribly bad throughout the ucl knockouts last season.

The home game against Man city was his worse...dude dey play like who get belle, very tired, lazy performance before he was replaced by Rodrygo

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 9:56pm On Feb 10
BlueRayDick:
The Wigwe's πŸ’”
las las money no fir buy life

Shey na d wigwe wey wan float university for rivers be this
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Incognito9: 9:59pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Bros where was xavi before 2006?
Did Toni Kroos deliver in 2014 for Germany at the world cup or not?
Mention 3 better players than Kroos in that German team?
As if xavi dominated through out his career.
Barcelona system of tiki taka died when iniesta left and not xavi because we saw what iniesta did in 2015 when xavi was mostly useless.

There's no passing stats you want to bring for xavi that I can't bring something of equivalence for Toni Kroos. Again don't forget Kroos has mostly played as the deepest lying midfielder and also dm.
Xavi has always had busquets to protect his ass.

Remind me when Casemiro left Madrid and what Kroos has been doing for the last 2 years.

If you are talking about dominance, Kroos led midfield has won 5ucl's while delivering it b2b2b.
What is a xavi

You dey praise iniesta where ibime dey πŸ˜†
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:59pm On Feb 10
Realmrsean:
las las money no fir buy life

Shey na d wigwe wey wan float university for rivers be this

The university is already up; they will be having their first intake from this 2024 JAMB 2024 UTME/ Direct Entry .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:01pm On Feb 10
Ibime:


You can ask his coaches





Lmaooo this man went to bring fans comment after a game.

The season of Rafael benitez, please tell the house what trophy we won?
Because that was the same season Zidane took over😁.
Common don't be shy.
Tell us
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:02pm On Feb 10
Incognito9:


You dey praise iniesta where ibime dey πŸ˜†

Yes.. Because person like Ibime nor fit appreciate iniesta or modricπŸ˜‚
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:02pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:

Lmaooo this man went to bring fans comment after a game.

The season of Rafael benitez, please tell the house what trophy we won?
Because that was the same season Zidane took over😁.
Common don't be shy.
Tell us

These possession stats can never be Xavi

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Incognito9: 10:03pm On Feb 10
liveLongNprospa:


Yes.. Because person like Ibime nor fit appreciate iniesta or modricπŸ˜‚

You go soon see tree and iniesta picture πŸ˜†
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 10:03pm On Feb 10
Can never be Xavi

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:04pm On Feb 10
Godx:

Kroos the miracle worker leading Bayern midfield from house. Somebody that played only 30mins from quarterfinal to final led them. When they want to count top 5 important players in that Madrid run kroos won't even be mentioned.

Lmao.. Please count the 5 important players in the 4 UCL Madrid won that Kroos partook in.

I am waiting.
Also count the important players in the German team that won the world cup in 2014😁
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 10:04pm On Feb 10
TrebleChamp:
Kuda said Polaris Bank has network downtime, i transfered to Palmpay using same Kuda and transfer was successful. Maybe their is a general network downtime sha, but my transfer to Palmpay was successful.
It's general except for a few.

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