GreatAchiever1:
■ How do they contradict?
■ It is evident throughout the bible but let me tell you so you can see what I mean. In most bible there is a reason why there are footnote texts in almost every verse; it's not for fancy, but an example of how scripture can interprete scripture.
■ Why was the text written by the Prophets of God regarded as Old Testament scripture?

Let's be sure we have the dictionary meaning of the word to work with here.

con·tra·dic·tion

a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.

So to answer your question, when two ideas oppose each other, there you have a contradiction.

2. I don't read scripture with footnotes. So, please provide an unambiguous explanation of what you said earlier about Scripture interpreting Scripture.

3. Because the Prophets and the information they sent were provided in the context that is the Old Covenant/Testament Law of Moses?

GreatAchiever1:
■ There is no change nor contradiction, the text here is a believing spouse with an unbelieving spouse, a different situation but with the same teaching.

Jesus Christ's teachings that concern those who are married can be summed up thus:

● Marriage is not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 38
● Remarriage after a divorce may amount to sin depending on the conditions that precipitated the divorce - Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32, Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9, Mark 10 vs 10- 12, Luke 16 vs 18, Matthew 19 vs 12

Under which of the above do you then consider what you claim Paul said to the marriage man and his supposed unbelieving spouse falls under?

Kobojunkiee:
The following errors are found in the same book which you claim is without error.

Some of what you wrote can be explained if one can spot out the discrepancy between the two, however for others there are difference and this can be due to copyist error.
Because God inspired every book of the Bible firsthand, the original manuscripts were error-free. But as the Hebrew manuscripts were transmitted from one generation to the next, a few copyist mistakes found their way into them and this could be due to an ink smear, a wrinkle, or a tear on one copy, as photocopying machine and printing press hasn't yet been invented.

However, the Bible is still as authoritative now as it was when it was first penned. God's Word is eternal, even in the event of a typographical error. We can put all of our faith on the Bible to be God's word to us.

[quote author=Kobojunkiee post=128594859]Let's be sure we have the dictionary meaning of the word to work with here.
So to answer your question, when two ideas oppose each other, there you have a contradiction.

2. I don't read scripture with footnotes. So, please provide an unambiguous explanation of what you said earlier about Scripture interpreting Scripture.

I didn't ask if you read Scripture with footnote but for you to know that there are bibles like that is a simple example of what I mean.

3. Because the Prophets and the information they sent were provided in the context that is the Old Covenant/Testament Law of Moses?

And they were inspired by who?

GreatAchiever1:
■ Some of what you wrote can be explained if one can spot out the discrepancy between the two, however for others there are difference and this can be due to copyist error.
Because God inspired every book of the Bible firsthand, the original manuscripts were error-free. But as the Hebrew manuscripts were transmitted from one generation to the next, a few copyist mistakes found their way into them and this could be due to an ink smear, a wrinkle, or a tear on one copy, as photocopying machine and printing press hasn't yet been invented.
However, the Bible is still as authoritative now as it was when it was first penned. God's Word is eternal, even in the event of a typographical error. We can put all of our faith on the Bible to be God's word to us.

You claimed the book contains no errors but here we have shown that it in fact has errors, even if you claim those errors were made copyists. Unless you have that 2000-or-so year old Scripture which you assume has no copyist errors of any kind in it, don't you think now that your original claim regarding the book in your hand today should be revised. Afterall it is a lie to claim it is without her error book.

GreatAchiever1:
■ I didn't ask if you read Scripture with footnote but for you to know that there are bibles like that is a simple example of what I mean.
■ And they were inspired by who?

explain what you mean by Scripture interprets Scripture.

2. All knowledge of Good and Evill belongs to God. Can you name one book that is not inspired of God who owns all knowledge

Kobojunkiee:
The following errors are found in the same book which you claim is without error.

these are not errors at all.

Steep:
these are not errors at all.

You're taking that person serious...

Ask her where she got everything she knows about God and Jesus Christ, if not from the same Book she claims it contains errors and contradictions.

Emusan:


You're taking that person serious...

Ask her where she got everything she knows about God and Jesus Christ, if not from the same Book she claims it contains errors and contradictions.

She argues senlessly for the purpose of argument, even when she contradicts herself she does not care. I pray God open her eyes to see that she is in darkness.

Steep:
She argues senlessly for the purpose of argument, even when she contradicts herself she does not care. I pray God open her eyes to see that she is in darkness.

In spite of your submission that the Bible contains errors, Jesus is still changing lives. Miracles still happens at the mention of the name of Jesus. And it's only in Christ you have salvation.

You are concerned about the errors and forget the free gift of salvation available to you.

You will still be looking for more errors until your soul enter into that dreadful place called hell. Even in hell, you will still find errors.

Emusan:

This was your previous statement:
Which implies GOD HIMSELF and the reason @Steep asked you to show him where it was stated.
But reading that verse it shows that God CAME DOWN as in appeared to Moses, that is why it was put as 'I have come down' Present Perfect Tense
Should we begin English class on that?

This is what my Bible says:
Exodus 3:8

I will go down to rescue them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a land good and spacious, a land flowing with milk and honey, the territory of the Caʹnaan·ites, the Hitʹtites, the Amʹor·ites, the Perʹiz·zites, the Hiʹvites, and the Jebʹu·sites

Just as He told Abraham saying:
Genesis 18:21

I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.”

This simply means God will be the one using His Holy Spirit to do the great things while the onlookers are only seeing Moses or Jesus who are God's representatives. Exodus 3:12 compare to John 8:16

Ken4Christ:


In spite of your submission that the Bible contains errors, Jesus is still changing lives. Miracles still happens at the mention of the name of Jesus. And it's only in Christ you have salvation.

You are concerned about the errors and forget the free gift of salvation available to you.

You will still be looking for more errors until your soul enter into that dreadful place called hell. Even in hell, you will still find errors.

you are mistaking me for someone else.

Steep:
these are not errors at all.

They are called what?

MaxInDHouse:
This is what my Bible says:
Exodus 3:8

I will go down to rescue them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a land good and spacious, a land flowing with milk and honey, the territory of the Caʹnaan·ites, the Hitʹtites, the Amʹor·ites, the Perʹiz·zites, the Hiʹvites, and the Jebʹu·sites

Just as He told Abraham saying:
Genesis 18:21

I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.”

Well, your Bible translation isn't accurate and the two scenarios aren't the same.

In the case of Moses, no physical appearance only the power of God in display with a voice so the right word was used "I have come down..." as translated by most versions.

In the case of Abraham, three men physically APPEARED and THEY ACTUALLY WENT DOWN TO Sodom and Gomorrah.

This is very clear in the conversation.

"20 The Lord said, “Abraham, I have heard that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are doing all kinds of evil things. 21 Now I am going down to see for myself if those people really are that bad. If they aren't, I would like to know.” 22 The men turned and started toward Sodom. But the Lord stayed with Abraham."

This simply means God will be the one using His Holy Spirit to do the great things while the onlookers are only seeing Moses or Jesus who are God's representatives. Exodus 3:12 compare to John 8:16

Well God is not a liar, He told Abraham He will go down to Sodom and Gomorrah Himself.

And never told Moses He will go down to Egypt Himself.

That is the point.

Emusan:

Well, your Bible translation isn't accurate.

So case closed since you don't agree with the translation i have, one thing is sure both Moses and Jesus expressly said they were sent by someone GREATER than them and they can't do anything else apart from what that one approves!

MaxInDHouse:
So case closed since you don't agree with the translation i have

That is the beautiful of having different translations to compare and contrast.

one thing is sure both Moses and Jesus expressly said they were sent by someone GREATER than them and they can't do anything else apart from what that one approves!

No doubt about that as well stated in the scriptures.

Emusan:

That is the beautiful of having different translations to compare and contrast.
No doubt about that as well stated in the scriptures.

Good!
Which means Moses and Jesus are SERVANTS of the most High God who represented Him as Gods in times past!
Exodus 7:1
John 1:1
Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Thank you!

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Which means Moses and Jesus are SERVANTS of the most High God who represented Him as Gods in times past!
Exodus 7:1
John 1:1
Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Thank you!

Smile.....

Moses is just a servant of God!

Jesus is called ALL.

Jesus is Almighty God
Jesus is the Creator
Jesus is Alpha and Omega
Jesus is The Beginning
Jesus is that very Eternal Life
Jesus is Son of God
Jesus is Son of man
Jesus is a prophet
Jesus is King of kings
Jesus is Lord
Jesus is the Saviour

So your attempt to equate them won't fly.

Even your gods in Warwick know that it's an insult to put Jesus and Moses side by side.

Emusan:

Smile.....
Moses is just a servant of God!
Jesus is called ALL.
Jesus is Almighty God
Jesus is the Creator
Jesus is Alpha and Omega
Jesus is The Beginning
Jesus is that very Eternal Life
Jesus is Son of God
Jesus is Son of man
Jesus is a prophet
Jesus is King of kings
Jesus is Lord
Jesus is the Saviour
So your attempt to equate them won't fly.
Even your gods in Warwick know that it's an insult to put Jesus and Moses side by side.

There's no need going into fruitless arguments since you have agreed that both of them are SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them and the Bible equates them at Deuteronomy 18:18 which Peter confirmed that Jesus was the one compared to Moses as the prophet to come in the likeness of Moses. Act 3:22

I think the case is settled!

MaxInDHouse:
There's no need going into fruitless arguments

You presented your point I presented mine, so it's not fruitless unless you agree yours is fruitless.

since you have agreed that both of them are SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them

This is not how you put what I agreed with, so why lying?

and the Bible equates them at Deuteronomy 18:18 which Peter confirmed that Jesus was the one compared to Moses as the prophet to come in the likeness of Moses. Act 3:22

Bible did not equate them.

Bible only compared them which is even just a part out of ALL ways scripture described Jesus.

To equate means:

Moses must also be the ONLY PERSON DIRECTLY CREATED BY GOD (as you believe about Jesus Christ).

Moses must witness the creation of all OTHER things (as your translation perverted the scripture).

Moses must be the one sustaining the universe by the POWER of His word. Heb 1:3, Col 1:17

I think the case is settled!

Only if you agreed with the above.

Emusan:

You presented your point I presented mine, so it's not fruitless unless you agree yours is fruitless.
This is not how you put what I agreed with, so why lying?
Bible did not equate them.
Bible only compared them which is even just a part out of ALL ways scripture described Jesus.
To equate means:
Moses must also be the ONLY PERSON DIRECTLY CREATED BY GOD (as you believe about Jesus Christ).
Moses must witness the creation of all OTHER things (as your translation perverted the scripture).
Moses must be the one sustaining the universe by the POWER of His word. Heb 1:3, Col 1:17
Only if you agreed with the above.

Did Moses and Jesus admit that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them?

MaxInDHouse:
Did Moses and Jesus admit that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them?

No! Jesus never claimed to be a SERVANT of someone GREATER than Him.

Now my questions:

Did Moses also be the ONLY PERSON DIRECTLY CREATED BY GOD (as you believe about Jesus Christ)?

Did Moses witness the creation of all OTHER things (as your translation perverted the scripture)?

Did Moses be the one sustaining the universe by the POWER of His word - Heb 1:3, Col 1:17?

Emusan:


Very clear and nobody argues that



Nobody said this as well

But the scripture does say Jesus is BEFORE ALL THINGS

And Only THE Creator is BEFORE ALL THINGS



Per as a scholar

Bible describe Jesus as firstborn and beginning of God's creation
Translate it into Yoruba if that is difficult to you
Jesus himself described that one as his God and greater than himself.

Steep:
you are mistaking me for someone else.

I am sorry about that.

Emusan:


Kai and you will be calling yourself a literate person.

What is the meaning of 'Alpha'?

Why do you think watchtower is trying to make it sound that Jesus didn't call Himself 'Alpha and Omega's in Revelation?



You must learn in hard way

What is the meaning of Alpha and Omega and in what sense is this title applied? Alpha is the beginning and Omega is conclusion
Jesus said he is the beginning of God's creation and Jehovah produced him
Poor Christian targeting us cos of someone wife

Ignorant Christian
No wonder why you call Trinity a mystery even when you rarely acknowledge the Holy ghost Spirit

What did Jesus say when someone called him Good? Was Jesus correcting the man to refer to himself?

You guys say Jesus is God, Jesus is the Son of God, Jesus is equal to God... Confused churchgoer... Greedy for someone's wife

Aemmyjah:
What is the meaning of Alpha and Omega and in what sense is this title applied? Alpha is the beginning and Omega is conclusion

So is Father The Beginning?

Do you agree Jesus is Alpha and Omega?

Jesus said he is the beginning of God's creation and Jehovah produced him

Jesus is The Beginning just like the Father also called Himself The Beginning then you'll be fine.

Jesus never said Jehovah produced him.

You can bring your evidence from the scripture.

Poor Christian targeting us cos of someone wife

False accuser like your father the Devil.

Provide your evidence

Ignorant Christian
No wonder why you call Trinity a mystery even when you rarely acknowledge the Holy ghost Spirit

If not because you're the very ignorant here, we don't acknowledge the Holy Spirit yet you know about Trinity

What did Jesus say when someone called him Good? Was Jesus correcting the man to refer to himself?

No! Jesus didn't correct the person rather asked the person a right question to lead the person aright.

Don't forget "Jesus is THE GOOD shepherd"

If you agree that ONLY ALMIGHTY GOD is good then Jesus is Almighty God for being THE GOOD shepherd.

You guys say Jesus is God, Jesus is the Son of God, Jesus is equal to God... Confused churchgoer

I've told you if you want Bible study on this just tell me your problem.

Greedy for someone's wife

You think repeating this lie thousand times will save you from receiving Bible study to cure your scriptural deficiency? You're wrong

Emusan:


So is Father The Beginning?



Jesus is The Beginning just like the Father also called Himself The Beginning then you'll be fine.

Jesus never said Jehovah produced him.



False accuser like your father the Devil.

Provide your evidence



If not because you're the very ignorant here, we don't acknowledge the Holy Spirit yet you know about Trinity



No! Jesus didn't correct the person rather asked the person a right question to lead the person aright.

Don't forget "Jesus is THE GOOD shepherd"

If you agree that ONLY ALMIGHTY GOD is good then Jesus is Almighty God for being THE GOOD shepherd.



I've told you if you want Bible study on this just tell me your problem.



You think repeating this lie thousand times will save you from receiving Bible study to cure your scripture deficiency? You're wrong

Who is speaking at Proverbs 8:22,23?

You yourself said you still converse wit a woman you would have married and she's lamenting and regretting and even blaming a whole organization?
Only a greedy husband will do such

Emusan:

No! Jesus never claimed to be a SERVANT of someone GREATER than Him.

Both statements below are Jesus' own words!

“My food is to do the will of him who SENT me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So someone SENT Jesus.

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I am." John 14:28

And this person is GREATER than Jesus.

Aemmyjah:
Who is speaking at Proverbs 8:22,23?

Eternal Wisdom of Yahweh!

See how he dropped the point of The Father being The Beginning and Jesus being THE GOOD shepherd

You yourself said you still converse wit a woman you would have married and she's lamenting and regretting and even blaming a whole organization?
Only a greedy husband will do such

False narrative!

Anyways, since you're of your father the Devil. Can I tell you to stop that?

MaxInDHouse:
Both statements below are Jesus' own words!

“My food is to do the will of him who SENT me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So someone SENT Jesus.

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I am." John 14:28

And this person is GREATER than Jesus.

Now bring your previous question and place it side by side then tell me how is the same

Besides, why did you boycott my questions?

Emusan:


Eternal Wisdom of Yahweh!

See how he dropped the point of The Father being The Beginning and Jesus being THE GOOD shepherd



False narrative!

Anyways, since you're of your father the Devil. Can I tell you to stop that?

Lol
Who is the person speaking at Proverbs?
Wisdom is not a person

King Nebuchadnezzar is described as King of Kings
Same with Artaxerxes

Othniel is described as savoir

Are these also God cos they share same title?

MaxInDHouse:


Both statements below are Jesus' own words!

“My food is to do the will of him who SENT me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So someone SENT Jesus.

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I am." John 14:28

And this person is GREATER than Jesus.

Don't mind the olodo
Jesus himself said he came to do the will of that One
And that he was sent
He is described as the Holy servant of God