MaxInDHouse:


There's no need going into fruitless arguments since you have agreed that both of them are SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them and the Bible equates them at Deuteronomy 18:18 which Peter confirmed that Jesus was the one compared to Moses as the prophet to come in the likeness of Moses. Act 3:22

I think the case is settled!

He did not add that Jesus is equal to the same God he is (as trinity teaches)
I thought he'll say Jesus is the father

MaxInDHouse:


This is what my Bible says:
Exodus 3:8

I will go down to rescue them out of the hand of the Egyptians and to bring them up out of that land to a land good and spacious, a land flowing with milk and honey, the territory of the Caʹnaan·ites, the Hitʹtites, the Amʹor·ites, the Perʹiz·zites, the Hiʹvites, and the Jebʹu·sites

Just as He told Abraham saying:
Genesis 18:21

I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.”

This simply means God will be the one using His Holy Spirit to do the great things while the onlookers are only seeing Moses or Jesus who are God's representatives. Exodus 3:12 compare to John 8:16

Same thing Jehovah said regarding Sodom and Gomorrah that he will go down
It was angels that were seen instead

Brethren,

I appeal to you. Kindly put an end to this issue.

Personally, I feel we have no authority to question the scriptures or to even claim to find errors in them but having said that, God has given us the freewill to believe what we want.

You have all made your points on whatever issue and they have been noted.

Let's keep from debating the scriptures any further lest we end up sinning against God.

God bless us all and help us to find and keep the truth.

Kobojunkiee:
Your Bible is infallible yet it contains contradictory idea after idea? Do you even begin to understand what the word Infallible means?

P.S. Paul, in his letter to Timothy, did not say that your bible is infallible. Rather, what Paul said is that every word in Scripture that predates His letters, by the way, is inspired by God who owns all knowledge of Good and Evil. Those words do not mean the same things at all.

People hail the Bible cos of its harmonious message
You say it contradicts
Paul did not say all Scripture excluding anyone book or letters

2 Peter 3:15
Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Here, Peter confirms that Paul's letters are part of the inspired scriptures and people like you are twisting it

Will you also say Peter was mistaken?
Why not even say the whole NT is mistake and explain how and why you can believe in Jesus and everything written about him is true

Kobojunkiee:
Jesus Christ declaring His Word everlasting means no man has power or authority to add or remove or change any of that which He declared. He is God's Law after all. And it is against God to add, change, or remove from His Law. According to you, Paul extended(changed) that which Jesus Christ previously declared to include His ideas. So, do you not see how what you accuse Paul of doing stands in direct violation of Jesus Christ?

You have not answered the question
Jesus also gave authority to the Apostles
He himself said whatever they bind or loosen or earth, same will be done in heaven
So there's an agreement

Do you even know what a law is?
How many laws did Jesus give?

MaxInDHouse:


Both statements below are Jesus' own words!

“My food is to do the will of him who SENT me and to finish his work" John 4:34

So someone SENT Jesus.

"I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is GREATER than I am." John 14:28

And this person is GREATER than Jesus.

Acts 4:27
In fact, this has happened here in this very city! For Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate the governor, the Gentiles, and the people of Israel were all united against Jesus, your holy servant, whom you anointed.

Aemmyjah:
Lol
Who is the person speaking at Proverbs?
Wisdom is not a person

Answered!

Next!

King Nebuchadnezzar is described as King of Kings
Same with Artaxerxes

Othniel is described as savoir

Are these also God cos they share same title?

Now you agreed that The Father is 'THE BEGINNING' which shows you don't know your Bible before you spew that thrash that the Father was never called The Beginning.

Then go and find out the meaning of THE BEGINNING, if you understand it then you'll know why your organisation is stripping off Jesus the Title of Alpha and Omega

Emusan:

Now bring your previous question and place it side by side then tell me how is the same
Besides, why did you boycott my questions?

According to John 4:34 is Jesus a SERVANT of someone GREATER than him?

Aemmyjah:

Acts 4:27
In fact, this has happened here in this very city! For Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate the governor, the Gentiles, and the people of Israel were all united against Jesus, your holy servant, whom you anointed.

He often gets annoyed each time he comes across me trying to prove me wrong.

Both Moses and Jesus admitted that they were SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them.

That's what he's battling to prove false whereas it's written in the scriptures!

MaxInDHouse:
According to John 4:34 is Jesus a SERVANT of someone GREATER than him?

No!

That you sent your son or daughter, does that make him/her your SERVANT?

Now, it's evident that you put this lie against Christ: Did Moses and Jesus ADMIT that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them?

If not provide where Jesus Christ ADMITTED that He is a SERVANT of someone Greater than Him.

He couldn't answer my questions as usual

Imagine that! Offering up even more logical fallacies in order to explain away the many obvious faults and contradictions contained in the supposed letters of Paul. What sort of reasoning does this stem from if not one turned completely on it's head to screw with the heads of those who hold to them? . No wonder Jesus Christ accused religious leaders of being nothing but the thieves who come to steal , to kill and to destroy!

ProudNigerian01:
Brethren, I appeal to you. Kindly put an end to this issue. Personally, I feel we have no authority to question the scriptures or to even claim to find errors in them but having said that, God has given us the freewill to believe what we want. You have all made your points on whatever issue and they have been noted. Let's keep from debating the scriptures any further lest we end up sinning against God. God bless us all and help us to find and keep the truth.

Is there a greater insult to God than the multitude of lies you speak using His name? Think about it for a minute. Would you be happy with someone who spews lies using your name, tarnishing the very reputation which you have worked hard to build of yourself? If you clearly would not accept that, why then do you pretend it is OK to lie against God in order to protect a book you believe to be more important than God Himself?

Emusan:

No!
That you sent your son or daughter, does that make him/her your SERVANT?
Now, it's evident that you put this lie against Christ: Did Moses and Jesus ADMIT that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them?
If not provide where Jesus Christ ADMITTED that He is a SERVANT of someone Greater than Him.
He couldn't answer my questions as usual

‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Act 3:13 NWT
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his SERVANT, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him.

MaxInDHouse:


‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Act 3:13 NWT
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his SERVANT, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him.

So it's Jesus speaking here

Again, you lied against Jesus that "HE ADMITTED"

So provide where Jesus did that.

Emusan:

So it's Jesus speaking here
Again, you lied against Jesus that "HE ADMITTED"
So provide where Jesus did that.

If his first century disciples who heard him say he is God's servant it shows they understood when he said someone SENT him he is surely a SERVANT of that person!

MaxInDHouse:


If his first century disciples who heard him say he is God's servant it shows they understood when he said someone SENT him he is surely a SERVANT of that person!

Now wonder you couldn't answer my questions.

So provide where Jesus said it, how is that hard for you to do?

Does sending your Son mean he is a SERVANT?

I know you'll still pretend as if you didn't see it.

Emusan:

Does sending your Son mean he is a SERVANT?

Perhaps you should check the meaning of the word "SERVANT"

Oxford dictionary!

*One who is hired to perform regular household or other duties, and receives compensation. As opposed to a slave.
There are three servants in the household, the butler and two maids.
▼ show
*One who serves another, providing help in some manner.
She is quite the humble servant, the poor in this city owe much to her but she expects nothing.
*(religion) A person who dedicates themselves to God.
*(obsolete) A professed lover.
A person of low condition or spirit.

Jesus DEDICATED himself to SERVE God when he went to John the baptist from that day he stopped being a carpenter to SERVE God!

MaxInDHouse:


Perhaps you should check the meaning of the word "SERVANT"

Oxford dictionary!

*One who is hired to perform regular household or other duties, and receives compensation. As opposed to a slave.
There are three servants in the household, the butler and two maids.
▼ show
*One who serves another, providing help in some manner.
She is quite the humble servant, the poor in this city owe much to her but she expects nothing.
*(religion) A person who dedicates themselves to God.
*(obsolete) A professed lover.
A person of low condition or spirit.

Jesus DEDICATED himself to SERVE God when he went to John the baptist from that day he stopped being a carpenter to SERVE God!

You accused Jesus to have ADMITTED to something, so was it inside Dictionary your saw that from?

When you're okay answer my questions

Emusan:

You accused Jesus to have ADMITTED to something, so was it inside Dictionary your saw that from?
When you're okay answer my questions

I know you will be running from pillar to post but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them.

Whoever comes to SERVE another person is the SERVANT of that person.

Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God but from all indication he admitted that he was SERVING someone GREATER than him the same thing Jesus did!

MaxInDHouse:
I know you will be running from pillar to post

Evidence abound of who is running from pillar to post.

but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them.

Then provide where Jesus ADMITTED that, why is that too much for you to bear?

Whoever comes to SERVE another person is the SERVANT of that person.

Then answer my question, if you're not a liar and coward.

Does sending your son make him YOUR SERVANT?

Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God but from all indication he admitted that he was SERVING someone GREATER than him the same thing Jesus did!

Well I don't need anything more to say @color, you already proved that you're a liar.

QED

Emusan:

Evidence abound of who is running from pillar to post.
Then provide where Jesus ADMITTED that, why is that too much for you to bear?
Then answer my question, if you're not a liar and coward.
Does sending your son make him YOUR SERVANT?
Well I don't need anything more to say @color, you already proved that you're a liar.
QED

Until i admit it's your personal opinion nah!

MaxInDHouse:


Until i admit it's your personal opinion nah!

Your statement placed side by side

"but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS..."

"Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God"

No be me talk am

All Paul wrote is the truth, there is no contradiction in the Bible and in Paul's letters.

dog twist and manipulate what is written to their own destruction

Emusan:


Answered!

Next!



Now you agreed that The Father is 'THE BEGINNING' which shows you don't know your Bible before you spew that thrash that the Father was never called The Beginning.

Then go and find out the meaning of THE BEGINNING, if you understand it then you'll know why your organisation is stripping off Jesus the Title of Alpha and Omega

Olodo
Did I say the Father is the beginning as I meant Jesus?
Jehovah is the source of life and everything. He is the only true God. You know what the Shema says. He is not associated with having a beginning unlike Jesus. He has always existed whereas the Word has not. The Word was with God, his father!

Emusan:


Eternal Wisdom of Yahweh!

See how he dropped the point of The Father being The Beginning and Jesus being THE GOOD shepherd



False narrative!

Anyways, since you're of your father the Devil. Can I tell you to stop that?

Wisdom is not a person na
Who was speaking?

MaxInDHouse:


‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Act 3:13 NWT
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his SERVANT, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him.

Don't mind him
Now he's admitting that Jesus is the Son of someone using his illustration
He's shooting himself in the foot
If the Bible addresses the Son as servant, is that a problem to him
Same Bible using lamb, destroyer, branch, lion to describe Jesus

Aemmyjah:
Wisdom is not a person na
Who was speaking?

Answered!

MaxInDHouse:


Until i admit it's your personal opinion nah!

He wants to believe that Moses is not a servant of God?

A servant can perform any task which could include a messenger
Moses was sent to Egypt to deliver Israel.
That makes him a servant
All prophets of God are servant too


King James Version
Deuteronomy 34:5
So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

Now, he'll tell us he doesn't understand what servant means or Moses was not aware he was a servant

He's now seen 2 verses to see that we're not lying that Moses and Jesus were servants of God but he won't acknowledge sha

See that he couldn't address any of my questions, typical jws lying liar.

Aemmyjah:
Olodo
Did I say the Father is the beginning as I meant Jesus?

See he real Olodo.

So the Father being The Beginning is different from Jesus being The Beginning

Jehovah is the source of life and everything. He is the only true God. You know what the Shema says. He is not associated with having a beginning unlike Jesus. He has always existed whereas the Word has not. The Word was with God, his father!

Just as Jesus was not associated with having a beginning.
Jesus is That ETERNAL LIFE, can eternal Life be created?

Jesus has always existed

That is why you can't answer, do you agree that Jesus is Alpha and Omega?

Emusan:


Answered!

If you like run
The entire context refers to one Person
Even commentary and scholars point it as referring to Jesus

1 Corinthians 1:24 — King James Version (KJV )
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Keep running

Emusan:
See that he couldn't address any of my questions, typical jws lying liar.



See he real Olodo.

So the Father being The Beginning is different from Jesus being The Beginning



Just as Jesus was not associated with having a beginning.
Jesus is That ETERNAL LIFE, can eternal Life be created?

Jesus has always existed

That is why you can't answer, do you agree that Jesus is Alpha and Omega?

Nebuchadnezzar
Jesus
Artaxerxes
Yahweh
All are referred to as king of kings

Does that capacity mean the same thing or they refer to just one sole person?

Aemmyjah:


Nebuchadnezzar
Jesus
Artaxerxes
Yahweh
All are referred to as king of kings

Does that capacity mean the same thing or they refer to just one sole person?

You didn't answer my question, why?

Answer my question and you'll get answer to yours.