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Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 4:12pm On Feb 23 |
MaxInDHouse: He did not add that Jesus is equal to the same God he is (as trinity teaches) I thought he'll say Jesus is the father |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 4:13pm On Feb 23 |
MaxInDHouse: Same thing Jehovah said regarding Sodom and Gomorrah that he will go down It was angels that were seen instead |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by ProudNigerian01: 4:20pm On Feb 23 |
Brethren, I appeal to you. Kindly put an end to this issue. Personally, I feel we have no authority to question the scriptures or to even claim to find errors in them but having said that, God has given us the freewill to believe what we want. You have all made your points on whatever issue and they have been noted. Let's keep from debating the scriptures any further lest we end up sinning against God. God bless us all and help us to find and keep the truth. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 4:26pm On Feb 23 |
Kobojunkiee: People hail the Bible cos of its harmonious message You say it contradicts Paul did not say all Scripture excluding anyone book or letters 2 Peter 3:15 Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. Here, Peter confirms that Paul's letters are part of the inspired scriptures and people like you are twisting it Will you also say Peter was mistaken? Why not even say the whole NT is mistake and explain how and why you can believe in Jesus and everything written about him is true |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 4:29pm On Feb 23 |
Kobojunkiee: You have not answered the question Jesus also gave authority to the Apostles He himself said whatever they bind or loosen or earth, same will be done in heaven So there's an agreement Do you even know what a law is? How many laws did Jesus give? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 4:35pm On Feb 23 |
MaxInDHouse: Acts 4:27 In fact, this has happened here in this very city! For Herod Antipas, Pontius Pilate the governor, the Gentiles, and the people of Israel were all united against Jesus, your holy servant, whom you anointed. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 4:43pm On Feb 23 |
Aemmyjah: Answered! Next! King Nebuchadnezzar is described as King of Kings Now you agreed that The Father is 'THE BEGINNING' which shows you don't know your Bible before you spew that thrash that the Father was never called The Beginning. Then go and find out the meaning of THE BEGINNING, if you understand it then you'll know why your organisation is stripping off Jesus the Title of Alpha and Omega |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:50pm On Feb 23 |
Emusan: According to John 4:34 is Jesus a SERVANT of someone GREATER than him? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52pm On Feb 23 |
Aemmyjah: He often gets annoyed each time he comes across me trying to prove me wrong. Both Moses and Jesus admitted that they were SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them. That's what he's battling to prove false whereas it's written in the scriptures! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 5:01pm On Feb 23 |
MaxInDHouse: No! That you sent your son or daughter, does that make him/her your SERVANT? Now, it's evident that you put this lie against Christ: Did Moses and Jesus ADMIT that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them? If not provide where Jesus Christ ADMITTED that He is a SERVANT of someone Greater than Him. He couldn't answer my questions as usual |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Kobojunkiee: 5:31pm On Feb 23 |
Imagine that! Offering up even more logical fallacies in order to explain away the many obvious faults and contradictions contained in the supposed letters of Paul. What sort of reasoning does this stem from if not one turned completely on it's head to screw with the heads of those who hold to them? . No wonder Jesus Christ accused religious leaders of being nothing but the thieves who come to steal , to kill and to destroy! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Kobojunkiee: 5:36pm On Feb 23 |
ProudNigerian01:Is there a greater insult to God than the multitude of lies you speak using His name? Think about it for a minute. Would you be happy with someone who spews lies using your name, tarnishing the very reputation which you have worked hard to build of yourself? If you clearly would not accept that, why then do you pretend it is OK to lie against God in order to protect a book you believe to be more important than God Himself? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05pm On Feb 23 |
Emusan: Acts 3:13 NIV The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Act 3:13 NWT The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his SERVANT, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 9:13am On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: So it's Jesus speaking here Again, you lied against Jesus that "HE ADMITTED" So provide where Jesus did that. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17am On Feb 24 |
Emusan: If his first century disciples who heard him say he is God's servant it shows they understood when he said someone SENT him he is surely a SERVANT of that person! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 9:50am On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: Now wonder you couldn't answer my questions. So provide where Jesus said it, how is that hard for you to do? Does sending your Son mean he is a SERVANT? I know you'll still pretend as if you didn't see it. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:08am On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Perhaps you should check the meaning of the word "SERVANT" Oxford dictionary! *One who is hired to perform regular household or other duties, and receives compensation. As opposed to a slave. There are three servants in the household, the butler and two maids. ▼ show *One who serves another, providing help in some manner. She is quite the humble servant, the poor in this city owe much to her but she expects nothing. *(religion) A person who dedicates themselves to God. *(obsolete) A professed lover. A person of low condition or spirit. Jesus DEDICATED himself to SERVE God when he went to John the baptist from that day he stopped being a carpenter to SERVE God! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 10:11am On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: You accused Jesus to have ADMITTED to something, so was it inside Dictionary your saw that from? When you're okay answer my questions |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Feb 24 |
Emusan: I know you will be running from pillar to post but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them. Whoever comes to SERVE another person is the SERVANT of that person. Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God but from all indication he admitted that he was SERVING someone GREATER than him the same thing Jesus did! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 10:42am On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: Evidence abound of who is running from pillar to post. but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS of someone GREATER than them. Then provide where Jesus ADMITTED that, why is that too much for you to bear? Whoever comes to SERVE another person is the SERVANT of that person. Then answer my question, if you're not a liar and coward. Does sending your son make him YOUR SERVANT? Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God but from all indication he admitted that he was SERVING someone GREATER than him the same thing Jesus did! Well I don't need anything more to say @color, you already proved that you're a liar. QED |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:48am On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Until i admit it's your personal opinion nah! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 12:30pm On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: Your statement placed side by side "but both Moses and Jesus admitted that they are both SERVANTS..." "Moses also never said with his mouth that he is a servant of God" No be me talk am |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MrPresident1: 12:38pm On Feb 24 |
All Paul wrote is the truth, there is no contradiction in the Bible and in Paul's letters. dog twist and manipulate what is written to their own destruction |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 1:46pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Olodo Did I say the Father is the beginning as I meant Jesus? Jehovah is the source of life and everything. He is the only true God. You know what the Shema says. He is not associated with having a beginning unlike Jesus. He has always existed whereas the Word has not. The Word was with God, his father! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 1:47pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Wisdom is not a person na Who was speaking? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 1:50pm On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: Don't mind him Now he's admitting that Jesus is the Son of someone using his illustration He's shooting himself in the foot If the Bible addresses the Son as servant, is that a problem to him Same Bible using lamb, destroyer, branch, lion to describe Jesus |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 1:53pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Answered! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 1:57pm On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: He wants to believe that Moses is not a servant of God? A servant can perform any task which could include a messenger Moses was sent to Egypt to deliver Israel. That makes him a servant All prophets of God are servant too King James Version Deuteronomy 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. Now, he'll tell us he doesn't understand what servant means or Moses was not aware he was a servant He's now seen 2 verses to see that we're not lying that Moses and Jesus were servants of God but he won't acknowledge sha |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 1:58pm On Feb 24 |
See that he couldn't address any of my questions, typical jws lying liar. Aemmyjah: See he real Olodo. So the Father being The Beginning is different from Jesus being The Beginning Jehovah is the source of life and everything. He is the only true God. You know what the Shema says. He is not associated with having a beginning unlike Jesus. He has always existed whereas the Word has not. The Word was with God, his father! Just as Jesus was not associated with having a beginning. Jesus is That ETERNAL LIFE, can eternal Life be created? Jesus has always existed That is why you can't answer, do you agree that Jesus is Alpha and Omega? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:01pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: If you like run The entire context refers to one Person Even commentary and scholars point it as referring to Jesus 1 Corinthians 1:24 — King James Version (KJV ) 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Keep running |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:02pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Nebuchadnezzar Jesus Artaxerxes Yahweh All are referred to as king of kings Does that capacity mean the same thing or they refer to just one sole person? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 2:03pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: You didn't answer my question, why? Answer my question and you'll get answer to yours. |
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