Aemmyjah:
If you like run
The entire context refers to one Person
Even commentary and scholars point it as referring to Jesus

Now you agreed that commentary and scholars point it that it refers to Jesus but you'll disagree with same commentary and scholars on John 1:1-3, Col 1:16-18

Hypocrite!

1 Corinthians 1:24 — King James Version (KJV )
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Keep running

Do you even know the implications of this?

Jesus is THE POWER OF JEHOVAH and The Wisdom of Jehovah.

Emusan:


Now you agreed that commentary and scholars point it that it refers to Jesus but you'll disagree with same commentary and scholars on John 1:1-3, Col 1:16-18

Hypocrite!



Do you even know the implications of this?

Jesus is THE POWER OF JEHOVAH and The Wisdom of Jehovah.

Now who was the 'eternal wisdom' of God at Proverbs 8:22,23?
Jesus or someone else?

Aemmyjah:

Now who was the 'eternal wisdom' of God at Proverbs 8:22,23?
Jesus or someone else?

So A BEING MUST BE WISDOM OF GOD; o ma se oooo

Since you agree that Jesus is the WISDOM OF GOD then Jesus can't be created because that means God created His own WISDOM.

Emusan:


You didn't answer my question, why?

Answer my question and you'll get answer to yours.

I have answered you already
Jesus himself both in the NT and OT was said to have a beginning and with someone. Through him, all things were created. That's why same Proverbs said he was with God during the time of Creation.

The source of all things, the father of all creation, the one Jesus described as His father, His God and our God, the one Jesus prayed to and taught us to pray to, the one who lifted Jesus to a superior authority above the angels, the voice John heard at Jesus baptism, the one Stephen saw Jesus standing by His right hand. He is the source of all things. No equal, he was not with anyone in the beginning cos he has no beginning, the one who never sleeps or die, the source of all wisdom and life and goodness. He is the Alpha and Omega. He has always existed - he never had a father or acknowledge anyone as his Father. He created all things, he is the Father of Jesus (his firstborn and beginning of his way (creation)
He is the Omega. Nothing exceeds him or after him and he'll bring an end to this wicked system


Keep crying
trying to prove that Jesus is God, son of God, equal to son, from God... If you like, tell us that Jesus is the Father of God. Wetin concern me?

Emusan:


So A BEING MUST BE WISDOM OF GOD; o ma se oooo

Since you agree that Jesus is the WISDOM OF GOD then Jesus can't be created because that means God created His own WISDOM.

Note the highlighted. It's in NIV

“The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[c][d]
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.

Tell us pls
Who is speaking?
If your shallow head wants you to conclude that God once had no wisdom, your brain is to blame

Aemmyjah:


He wants to believe that Moses is not a servant of God?

A servant can perform any task which could include a messenger
Moses was sent to Egypt to deliver Israel.
That makes him a servant
All prophets of God are servant too


King James Version
Deuteronomy 34:5
So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

Now, he'll tell us he doesn't understand what servant means or Moses was not aware he was a servant

He's now seen 2 verses to see that we're not lying that Moses and Jesus were servants of God but he won't acknowledge sha

It's a shame to argue blindly against the truth but critics can do anything even though it's shameful. His fellow religionists are watching nah at least they can see his insincerity!

MaxInDHouse:


Perhaps you should check the meaning of the word "SERVANT"

Oxford dictionary!

*One who is hired to perform regular household or other duties, and receives compensation. As opposed to a slave.
There are three servants in the household, the butler and two maids.
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*One who serves another, providing help in some manner.
She is quite the humble servant, the poor in this city owe much to her but she expects nothing.
*(religion) A person who dedicates themselves to God.
*(obsolete) A professed lover.
A person of low condition or spirit.

Jesus DEDICATED himself to SERVE God when he went to John the baptist from that day he stopped being a carpenter to SERVE God!

Don't mind him
Cyrus never worshipped God but God called him my servant. Cyrus was not even born then
That guy argues blindly and ignorantly

MaxInDHouse:


If his first century disciples who heard him say he is God's servant it shows they understood when he said someone SENT him he is surely a SERVANT of that person!

He wants to tell us the disciples still did not know Jesus even after his ascension and receiving the Holy Spirit?

Aemmyjah:


I have answered you already
Jesus himself both in the NT and OT was said to have a beginning and with someone. Through him, all things were created. That's why same Proverbs said he was with God during the time of Creation.

The source of all things, the father of all creation, the one Jesus described as His father, His God and our God, the one Jesus prayed to and taught us to pray to, the one who lifted Jesus to a superior authority above the angels, the voice John heard at Jesus baptism, the one Stephen saw Jesus standing by His right hand. He is the source of all things. No equal, he was not with anyone in the beginning cos he has no beginning, the one who never sleeps or die, the source of all wisdom and life and goodness. He is the Alpha and Omega. He has always existed - he never had a father or acknowledge anyone as his Father. He created all things, he is the Father of Jesus (his firstborn and beginning of his way (creation)
He is the Omega. Nothing exceeds him or after him and he'll bring an end to this wicked system


Keep crying
trying to prove that Jesus is God, son of God, equal to son, from God... If you like, tell us that Jesus is the Father of God. Wetin concern me?

We know who is crying and in painment here

When you're okay, go back and answer my questions.

Emusan:


Now wonder you couldn't answer my questions.

So provide where Jesus said it, how is that hard for you to do?

Does sending your Son mean he is a SERVANT?

I know you'll still pretend as if you didn't see it.

In the book of Acts, Luke wrote that Jesus said, there is more happiness in receiving than there is in giving.

1. We have no evidence Luke walked with Jesus

2. Nowhere in the Gospels did we read Jesus say those words

Was Luke lying against Jesus by adding his own words or he was actually writing what Jesus said

Later, Paul wrote that Jesus said at his baptism, I have come to do your will

1. Paul was not with Jesus
2. We did not read Jesus say any words at his baptism in any of the gospels

Was Paul lying or he was actually saying what Jesus said

If you want my brother MaxInDHouse to show you where Jesus himself said he was servants or where Moses said same, but we read from the Bible that their closest friends described them as such. First convince us that what Luke and Paul wrote was false or true to show where Jesus himself SAID these words

Aemmyjah:


Note the highlighted. It's in NIV

“The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[c][d]
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.

Tell us pls
Who is speaking?

Again the Eternal wisdom of Yahweh.

Now let me ask my questions and don't dodge them since you agree with NIV.

1. "at the very beginning, when the world came to be". Did it occur to you here that the speaker said the very beginning is when the WORLD actually came to be? I know you'll too blind to see that.

2. The speaker actually spoke about the PERSON carrying out the creation activities which means the speaker can't be the one Creating things i.e "I was there when 'HE' set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, 28 when 'HE' established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, 29 when 'HE' gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command,..."

So who is that 'HE' that the speaking was talking about?

If your shallow head wants you to conclude that God once had no wisdom, your brain is to blame

So is JESUS Wisdom of God or not?

Emusan:


No be me talk am

Na me talk am

King James Version
Deuteronomy 34:5
So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

Acts 3:13
New International Version
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Poor Christian disputing wetin Bible talk

Emusan:


Again the Eternal wisdom of Yahweh.

Now let me ask my questions and don't dodge them since you agree with NIV.

1. "at the very beginning, when the world came to be". Did it occur to you here that the speaker said the very beginning is when the WORLD actually came to be? I know you'll too blind to see that.

2. The speaker actually spoke about the PERSON carrying out the creation activities which means the speaker can't be the one Creating things i.e "I was there when 'HE' set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, 28 when 'HE' established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, 29 when 'HE' gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command,..."

So who is that 'HE' that the speaking was talking about?



So is JESUS Wisdom of God or not?

So Jehovah produced Jehovah as the beginning of his way?


I see you have problem comparing with other bibles
😂

Emusan:


We know who is crying and in painment here

When you're okay, go back and answer my questions.

I have
According to Emusan, the truth speaker
Jesus is God
Jesus is son of God
Jesus is with God
Jesus came from God
Jesus is equal to God

Nonsense makes sense to some people sha

Aemmyjah:
In the book of Acts, Luke wrote that Jesus said, there is more happiness in receiving than there is in giving.

1. We have no evidence Luke walked with Jesus

2. Nowhere in the Gospels did we read Jesus say those words

Was Luke lying against Jesus by adding his own words or he was actually writing what Jesus said

Later, Paul wrote that Jesus said at his baptism, I have come to do your will

1. Paul was not with Jesus
2. We did not read Jesus say any words at his baptism in any of the gospels

Was Paul lying or he was actually saying what Jesus said

If you want my brother MaxInDHouse to show you where Jesus himself said he was servants or where Moses said same, but we read from the Bible that their closest friends described them as such. First convince us that what Luke and Paul wrote was false or true to show where Jesus himself SAID these words

I'm glad you also confirmed that Jesus OR MOSES never said such.

So, what is the point of lying that JESUS ADMITTED something why can't you just says the Bible says so and so?

You see reason why I do say you people are of your father the Devil.

Emusan:


I'm glad you also confirmed that Jesus OR MOSES never said such.

So, what is the point of lying that JESUS ADMITTED something why can't you just says the Bible says so and so?

You see reason why I do say you people are of your father the Devil.

So we should invalidate what Luke and Paul wrote Jesus said right?



Paul and Luke lied shey?

Aemmyjah:


So Jehovah produced Jehovah as the beginning of his way?


I see you have problem comparing with other bibles
😂

Now you see he can't answer questions e get why

Aemmyjah:


So we should invalidate what Luke and Paul wrote Jesus said right?



Paul and Luke lied shey?

Paul and Luke were inspired

Do you know the many of that?

Aemmyjah:


I have
According to Emusan, the truth speaker
Jesus is God
Jesus is son of God
Jesus is with God
Jesus came from God
Jesus is equal to God

Nonsense makes sense to some people sha

Confirmed according the scripture.

Emusan:


Confirmed according the scripture.

Also confirmed is that Jesus is the son of God

You said all these
Make everything make sense na

Emusan:


Paul and Luke were inspired

Do you know the many of that?

Is it not same Luke that wrote same words that called Jesus holy servant?
Abi, he lost inspiration at that moment?

Was Joshua not also inspired
Wetin dis pikin de yan?

Emusan:


Now you see he can't answer questions e get why

Oga
Check other versions na
Jehovah produced Jesus as the beginning or first of his creation and works
Jesus was with Jehovah during the creation of the world
Simple and logical

Aemmyjah:


Na me talk am

King James Version
Deuteronomy 34:5
So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.

Acts 3:13
New International Version
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go.

Poor Christian disputing wetin Bible talk

But these are not Jesus OWN statement.

Meanwhile, I'm not disputing that the Bible says Jesus is a servant of God but the statement of your lying liar brother who claimed Jesus ADMITTED...

So where is Jesus ADMITTED is what I was asking but at least you and him already agreed that Jesus DIDN'T actually make that statement, which means you lied.

Aemmyjah:


Oga
Check other versions na
Jehovah produced Jesus as the beginning or first of his creation and works
Jesus was with Jehovah during the creation of the world
Simple and logical

That's not the point,

I asked you some questions based on the same NIV you provided, so answer my questions and stop preambulating.

Aemmyjah:
Is it not same Luke that wrote same words that called Jesus holy servant?
Abi, he lost inspiration at that moment?

Was Joshua not also inspired
Wetin dis pikin de yan?

Which means Luke and Joshua have A SOURCE to back up their claims.

So, where is your sources that Jesus ADMITTED to be a SERVANT OF GOD?

Aemmyjah:
Also confirmed is that Jesus is the son of God

Yes!

You said all these
Make everything make sense na

That's why I told you, if you want me to explain then tell me your problem first

Edybleketara:
You can't blame him, the Bible contains more hogwash than Tinubu's campaign promises.

"OBE TI ODUN NI E". "STEWPIDITY".

Aemmyjah:

He wants to tell us the disciples still did not know Jesus even after his ascension and receiving the Holy Spirit?

He's just trying to prove stubborn as JWs knows far too much than he could imagine so he wants to continue arguing even if it means doing so unreasonably!

Emusan:


Yes!



That's why I told you, if you want me to explain then tell me your problem first

Who has problem?
Explain how someone can be someone son, equal to the same person and be the same person. Make sense of your nonsense

Emusan:


Which means Luke and Joshua have A SOURCE to back up their claims.

So, where is your sources that Jesus ADMITTED to be a SERVANT OF GOD?

Show us the SOURCE?

Why did God answer their prayer and give them courage after addressing Jesus as God's Holy servant?

Emusan:


That's not the point,

I asked you some questions based on the same NIV you provided, so answer my questions and stop preambulating.

Oga
Consult others
Very likely you've not seen

Shame

Emusan:


But these are not Jesus OWN statement.

Meanwhile, I'm not disputing that the Bible says Jesus is a servant of God but the statement of your lying liar brother who claimed Jesus ADMITTED...

So where is Jesus ADMITTED is what I was asking but at least you and him already agreed that Jesus DIDN'T actually make that statement, which means you lied.

Mumu
How then did we know Jesus made the statement Luke and Paul wrote?