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Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 2:07pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Now you agreed that commentary and scholars point it that it refers to Jesus but you'll disagree with same commentary and scholars on John 1:1-3, Col 1:16-18 Hypocrite! 1 Corinthians 1:24 — King James Version (KJV ) Do you even know the implications of this? Jesus is THE POWER OF JEHOVAH and The Wisdom of Jehovah. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:23pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Now who was the 'eternal wisdom' of God at Proverbs 8:22,23? Jesus or someone else? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 2:29pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: So A BEING MUST BE WISDOM OF GOD; o ma se oooo Since you agree that Jesus is the WISDOM OF GOD then Jesus can't be created because that means God created His own WISDOM. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:34pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: I have answered you already Jesus himself both in the NT and OT was said to have a beginning and with someone. Through him, all things were created. That's why same Proverbs said he was with God during the time of Creation. The source of all things, the father of all creation, the one Jesus described as His father, His God and our God, the one Jesus prayed to and taught us to pray to, the one who lifted Jesus to a superior authority above the angels, the voice John heard at Jesus baptism, the one Stephen saw Jesus standing by His right hand. He is the source of all things. No equal, he was not with anyone in the beginning cos he has no beginning, the one who never sleeps or die, the source of all wisdom and life and goodness. He is the Alpha and Omega. He has always existed - he never had a father or acknowledge anyone as his Father. He created all things, he is the Father of Jesus (his firstborn and beginning of his way (creation) He is the Omega. Nothing exceeds him or after him and he'll bring an end to this wicked system Keep crying trying to prove that Jesus is God, son of God, equal to son, from God... If you like, tell us that Jesus is the Father of God. Wetin concern me? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:40pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Note the highlighted. It's in NIV “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,[c][d] before his deeds of old; 23 I was formed long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be. 24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth, when there were no springs overflowing with water; 25 before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, 26 before he made the world or its fields or any of the dust of the earth. 27 I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, 28 when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, 29 when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth. 30 Then I was constantly at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence, 31 rejoicing in his whole world and delighting in mankind. Tell us pls Who is speaking? If your shallow head wants you to conclude that God once had no wisdom, your brain is to blame |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: It's a shame to argue blindly against the truth but critics can do anything even though it's shameful. His fellow religionists are watching nah at least they can see his insincerity! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:46pm On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: Don't mind him Cyrus never worshipped God but God called him my servant. Cyrus was not even born then That guy argues blindly and ignorantly |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:48pm On Feb 24 |
MaxInDHouse: He wants to tell us the disciples still did not know Jesus even after his ascension and receiving the Holy Spirit? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 2:48pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: We know who is crying and in painment here When you're okay, go back and answer my questions. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 2:58pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: In the book of Acts, Luke wrote that Jesus said, there is more happiness in receiving than there is in giving. 1. We have no evidence Luke walked with Jesus 2. Nowhere in the Gospels did we read Jesus say those words Was Luke lying against Jesus by adding his own words or he was actually writing what Jesus said Later, Paul wrote that Jesus said at his baptism, I have come to do your will 1. Paul was not with Jesus 2. We did not read Jesus say any words at his baptism in any of the gospels Was Paul lying or he was actually saying what Jesus said If you want my brother MaxInDHouse to show you where Jesus himself said he was servants or where Moses said same, but we read from the Bible that their closest friends described them as such. First convince us that what Luke and Paul wrote was false or true to show where Jesus himself SAID these words |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:00pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Again the Eternal wisdom of Yahweh. Now let me ask my questions and don't dodge them since you agree with NIV. 1. "at the very beginning, when the world came to be". Did it occur to you here that the speaker said the very beginning is when the WORLD actually came to be? I know you'll too blind to see that. 2. The speaker actually spoke about the PERSON carrying out the creation activities which means the speaker can't be the one Creating things i.e "I was there when 'HE' set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, 28 when 'HE' established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, 29 when 'HE' gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command,..." So who is that 'HE' that the speaking was talking about? If your shallow head wants you to conclude that God once had no wisdom, your brain is to blame So is JESUS Wisdom of God or not? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:04pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Na me talk am King James Version Deuteronomy 34:5 So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. Acts 3:13 New International Version The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Poor Christian disputing wetin Bible talk |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:05pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: So Jehovah produced Jehovah as the beginning of his way? I see you have problem comparing with other bibles 😂 |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:06pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: I have According to Emusan, the truth speaker Jesus is God Jesus is son of God Jesus is with God Jesus came from God Jesus is equal to God Nonsense makes sense to some people sha |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:07pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: I'm glad you also confirmed that Jesus OR MOSES never said such. So, what is the point of lying that JESUS ADMITTED something why can't you just says the Bible says so and so? You see reason why I do say you people are of your father the Devil. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:08pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: So we should invalidate what Luke and Paul wrote Jesus said right? Paul and Luke lied shey? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:08pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Now you see he can't answer questions e get why |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:10pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Paul and Luke were inspired Do you know the many of that? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:10pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Confirmed according the scripture. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:11pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Also confirmed is that Jesus is the son of God You said all these Make everything make sense na |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:13pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Is it not same Luke that wrote same words that called Jesus holy servant? Abi, he lost inspiration at that moment? Was Joshua not also inspired Wetin dis pikin de yan? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 3:14pm On Feb 24 |
Emusan: Oga Check other versions na Jehovah produced Jesus as the beginning or first of his creation and works Jesus was with Jehovah during the creation of the world Simple and logical |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:16pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: But these are not Jesus OWN statement. Meanwhile, I'm not disputing that the Bible says Jesus is a servant of God but the statement of your lying liar brother who claimed Jesus ADMITTED... So where is Jesus ADMITTED is what I was asking but at least you and him already agreed that Jesus DIDN'T actually make that statement, which means you lied. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:17pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: That's not the point, I asked you some questions based on the same NIV you provided, so answer my questions and stop preambulating. |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:19pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Which means Luke and Joshua have A SOURCE to back up their claims. So, where is your sources that Jesus ADMITTED to be a SERVANT OF GOD? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Emusan(m): 3:21pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: Yes! You said all these That's why I told you, if you want me to explain then tell me your problem first |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Iamanoited: 5:09pm On Feb 24 |
Edybleketara: "OBE TI ODUN NI E". "STEWPIDITY". |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:25pm On Feb 24 |
Aemmyjah: He's just trying to prove stubborn as JWs knows far too much than he could imagine so he wants to continue arguing even if it means doing so unreasonably! |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 8:32am On Feb 25 |
Emusan: Who has problem? Explain how someone can be someone son, equal to the same person and be the same person. Make sense of your nonsense |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 8:33am On Feb 25 |
Emusan: Show us the SOURCE? Why did God answer their prayer and give them courage after addressing Jesus as God's Holy servant? |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 8:34am On Feb 25 |
Emusan: Oga Consult others Very likely you've not seen Shame |
Re: Apostle Suleman Attacks Apostle Paul by Aemmyjah(m): 8:35am On Feb 25 |
Emusan: Mumu How then did we know Jesus made the statement Luke and Paul wrote? |
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