SoNature:


South South people share lots of similarities and the same goes for North Central. There's no country in the world where everyone speaks the same language.

South South people, as it is today, already see themselves as one people even though they have language disparities.

What keeps a country going is fairness, equity and justice. If any of these elements doesn't exist, you will have mutual suspicion and social instability.

Yeah i agree with SS , they are in a better position, as long as there is good governance ..Well i agree with you, i guess i have been overthinking the heterogeneity of these regions and finding reasons that will make it difficult to work...
I applaud your point if view, regional system is very feasible

slimfit1:


We already have alot of things that has attached us together that will be difficult to break food and trade. As long as defence and security remains in local or regional government hands e.g. Igbo protect themselves, Yoruba protect themselves and there land we will have a peaceful relationship.

Very true ...but in the context of security, i have always opined that we should not have total decentralization of security, we should have regional or state police but with a degree of federal oversight....

DeepThroater:



Stop repeating this foolishness.


Have you united yourselves in your own SE?

Why not focus on your own and let others sort it out.

As I said earlier, every state in the SS can be self sustainable once resource control is granted.

If we agree to merge as one, fine.

If we say we go our seperate ways as independent states then no problem.

No one is dragging land with anybody in the SS.

We know our boundaries and respect that of others.

I have been educated by someone else with more sense and logic on the context of heterogeneity, i have nothing to drag with you ..i am only open for logical discussions and feedback....

Minsk24:

Very true ...but in the context of security, i have always opined that we should not have total decentralization of security, we should have regional or state police but with a degree of federal oversight....

No over site look as the Fulanis are killing us but the police is scared because of his Hausa Fulani boss.

Minsk24:

I have been educated by someone else with more sense and logic on the context of heterogeneity, i have nothing to drag with you ..i am only open for logical discussions and feedback....

We are not fit to be united under one umbrella because we are a mishmash of different ethnic groups but we are good to be dragged into your Biafra to be ruled under your yoke.

Tueh!

slimfit1:


No over site look as the Fulanis are killing us but the police is scared because of his Hausa Fulani boss.

Without oversight, i fear what is happening in Ethiopia will happen in Nigeria...
My own idea of state police is this ..
All police in the country will be partly funded by federal and state government, all will go tru uniform training, ethics and code of conduct..
Federal government will have authority to take over state police if there is abuse or a national security issue
Personnel of state police will be from that state but federal government can authorize transfer of personnel to boost other state who may have issues with funding and recruitment but each state police must maintain a certain threshold for indigenous personnel
Federal government will have unrestricted access to state security plan to ensure it fits into the wider federal government national security plan

Minsk24:

Yeah i agree with SS , they are in a better position, as long as there is good governance ..Well i agree with you, i guess i have been overthinking the heterogeneity of these regions and finding reasons that will make it difficult to work...
I applaud your point if view, regional system is very feasible

Now fck off from SS matter

Minsk24:

Without oversight, i fear what is happening in Ethiopia will happen in Nigeria...
My own idea of state police is this ..
All police in the country will be partly funded by federal and state government, all will go tru uniform training, ethics and code of conduct..
Federal government will have authority to take over state police if there is abuse or a national security issue
Personnel of state police will be from that state but federal government can authorize transfer of personnel to boost other state who may have issues with funding and recruitment but each state police must maintain a certain threshold for indigenous personnel
Federal government will have unrestricted access to state security plan to ensure it fits into the wider federal government national security plan

State police is here to stay.

A police force that will be at service to the state and it's citizens .

If you mess up , we run you out of town.

DeepThroater:


State police is here to stay.

A police force that will be at service to the state and it's citizens .

If you mess up , we run you out of town.

Lol....u must run state police with proper legislation to prevent eroding the power of the federal government to the point where anarchy can spring up...
All i am saying is for Nigeria to come up with a balanced legislation that will ensure good federal oversight and still give the state government freedom to enforce state and federal laws in its domain

Minsk24:

Without oversight, i fear what is happening in Ethiopia will happen in Nigeria...
My own idea of state police is this ..
All police in the country will be partly funded by federal and state government, all will go tru uniform training, ethics and code of conduct..
Federal government will have authority to take over state police if there is abuse or a national security issue
Personnel of state police will be from that state but federal government can authorize transfer of personnel to boost other state who may have issues with funding and recruitment but each state police must maintain a certain threshold for indigenous personnel
Federal government will have unrestricted access to state security plan to ensure it fits into the wider federal government national security plan

Brother after 140 years of sharing country with those fellows up North you still haven't learnt a lesson no. We control our police and military. Our union has gone past that stage we can never become one like that. America is different from us.

Minsk24:

Lol....u must run state police with proper legislation to prevent eroding the power of the federal government to the point where anarchy can spring up...
All i am saying is for Nigeria to come up with a balanced legislation that will ensure good federal oversight and still give the state government freedom to enforce state and federal laws in its domain

You are such a Zikist piece of crap.

Everything that will strengthen state autonomy you are against.

Why ?

Minsk24:

I have been educated by someone else with more sense and logic on the context of heterogeneity, i have nothing to drag with you ..i am only open for logical discussions and feedback....

I like dy way u carry handle that guy wey dy find ur mouth...

Ertugrul:

I like dy way u carry handle that guy wey dy find ur mouth...

Person wey I don pursue comot him useless Zikist thread?

Minsk24:
With the report about states not been able to pay salaries, u can see that most states have wage bills exceeding internal revenue, this is not good at all and it goes to show that some states are not economically viable, majority of local governments are not economically viable as well....
With an over-bloated civil service across state and local governments, i think it is necessary to rethink the 36 states in Nigeria. .
..
I feel it is better to merge states or have regions..
let us have bigger states and in turn bigger local governments that can be economically viable...

5 regions:
- Arewa
- Middle Belt
- Yoruba
- Igbo
- Niger Delta

Anytime you see “We Ss hate Igbo” kinda monickers,most likely they are ijaw or bini stock,these two groups hate that there are Igbo in their beloved south south
They want to be lord over the Igbo in the South south,thus always get angry when we mention Igbo are in SS

Confused people,in one breath there are no Igbo in South south,in another they say Igbo coup of 1966,they don’t even know that Kaduna Nzeogwu is from their beloved south south

Gustavowhite:
Anytime you see “We Ss hate Igbo” kinda monickers,most likely they are ijaw or bini stock,these two groups hate that there are Igbo in their beloved south south
They want to be lord over the Igbo in the South south,thus always get angry when we mention Igbo are in SS

Confused people,in one breath there are no Igbo in South south,in another they say Igbo coup of 1966,they don’t even know that Kaduna Nzeogwu is from their beloved south south

Having Ibo settlements in some parts of the SS does not give you the right to claim the entirety of SS.

Besides all Igboid people in the SS have since rejected you.

DeepThroater:



Having Ibo settlements in some parts of the SS does not give you the right to claim the entirety of SS.

Besides all Igboid people in the SS have since rejected you.

Igbo is the single largest ethnic group in the South south,I didn’t put them there,God did please go and fight God

And secondly nobody can reject what he is,just like it didn’t stop them from calling Emefiele IPOB and ESN
Sponsor when he was being used as scape goat
Emefiele might not even call himself an Igbo but others did for him

Ertugrul:

I like dy way u carry handle that guy wey dy find ur mouth...

Its really difficult to reason with people with nothing to say ..i just tire

DeepThroater:


You are such a Zikist piece of crap.

Everything that will strengthen state autonomy you are against.

Why ?

Kai
Which day u go say something reasonable abeg

karfe:


5 regions:
- Arewa
- Middle Belt
- Yoruba
- Igbo
- Niger Delta

This is very feasible, the main issue will be adamawa, i wonder if the indigenous ethnic groups will want to join arewa of middle belt, taraba will surely be part of Middle-belt...
Middle-belt will be the largest and most powerful region if it is well governed

Minsk24:

Kai
Which day u go say something reasonable abeg

It's obvious that you are all in in preserving the centrist arrangement at the expense of states.

This has been the political outlook of every Ibo since 1953.

Minsk24:

This is very feasible, the main issue will be adamawa, i wonder if the indigenous ethnic groups will want to join arewa of middle belt, taraba will surely be part of Middle-belt...
Middle-belt will be the largest and most powerful region if it is well governed

Worry about Ebonyi refusing to join you in your SE merger.

SoNature:
We already have six zones in the country. States should be merged into six zones and religional government will use the resources generated from the region to develop it and pay taxes to the centre.

Everyone will be forced to return to their region to help develop it because looking for public service opportunities outside your region will be hard to get.

Why can't everybody start developing their States right now instead of waiting until when the States will be merged?

Minsk24:

This is very feasible, the main issue will be adamawa, i wonder if the indigenous ethnic groups will want to join arewa of middle belt, taraba will surely be part of Middle-belt...
Middle-belt will be the largest and most powerful region if it is well governed

Yes, Adamawa and maybe Niger will have to decide. The process will require sincerity and strong, positive political will.

In any case, Middle Belt and Niger Delta will still require some innovative internal arrangements to succeed because of their heterogeneity. But they are better off separated from the larger groups.

karfe:


Yes, Adamawa and maybe Niger will have to decide. The process will require sincerity and strong, positive political will.

In any case, Middle Belt and Niger Delta will still require some innovative internal arrangements to succeed because of their heterogeneity. But they are better separated from the larger groups.

At the bolded , I want you to know the intention of the mischievous OP was to make a case of lumping the SS with his dead SE in what can only be described as their unrepentant and unrelenting quest to annex the SS.

The OP gave himself away in his very first post by stating that SS can not be feasible as one merged state or region and his solution was that it should thus be yoked into his SE region .

Ttipsy:
Let end Tribalism and religious bigotry

99.9% of the problem will be solved

Once we separate, what you call tribalism will become patriotism.

Tallesty1:
Once we separate, what you call tribalism will become patriotism.

Please Sir, allow me to quote this epic response with your due liscence .

Never has such wise words been spoken.

DeepThroater:



Please Sir, allow me to quote this epic response with your due liscence .

Never has such wise words been spoken.

Go on bro

Tallesty1:
Go on bro

The wisest words I have ever read anywhere in a very long time.

Kudos

karfe:


Yes, Adamawa and maybe Niger will have to decide. The process will require sincerity and strong, positive political will.

In any case, Middle Belt and Niger Delta will still require some innovative internal arrangements to succeed because of their heterogeneity. But they are better off separated from the larger groups.

Exactly, it will take a lot of sincerity and innovation,to avoid stoking tensions

DeepThroater:



At the bolded , I want you to know the intention of the mischievous OP was to make a case of lumping the SS with his dead SE in what can only be described as their unrepentant and unrelenting quest to annex the SS.

The OP have himself away in his very first post by stating that SS can not be feasible as one merged state or region and his solution was that it should thus be yoked into his SE region .

You are a clown i swear

oyatz:


Why can't everybody start developing their States right now instead of waiting until when the States will be merged?

Apart from corruption and government inefficiencies, the truth is that some states are not economically viable .... Nigeria can still work with the current arrangement, but tweaking the 36 states can accelerate growth...
It will also reduce the huge civil service and reduce government waste ..
For example, ebonyi built an airport with billions , meanwhile,the enugu airport is close...if we had regional system, such waste will not happen...
Look at all the huge funds SS state got towards the end of buhari administration, if they had one region, they can combine all those funds together and put it to better use for the region..
And good point for merging states or regional system is harmonizing tax systems and ease of doing business... For example, if u run multiple businesses across states, u might be subject to different laws and taxations, but if we have bigger states, it will make things easier, the law in aba will be the same in abakiliki...
Bigger states will also lead to bigger local governments, the local governments we have now are really small and not economically viable....
The US is as big as west Africa, it has 50 states
India is huge, it has 27 states and 7 union territories
China is as big as west Africa, it has 34 provinces