afrodoc2:


Yeah. I agree with you about Shaw. It is time to move on purely from an injury point of view. From a technical and physical point of view though he is the type of fullback that we need.

Bruno is Bruno. He is not comfortable enough on the ball in tight spaces to cope well with the pace and pressing of the EPL. There are passes you will give to Bruno in a tight area that he will spill to the opponent or rush a through pass that is not on, but if you give the same pass to Bernardo Silva or Odegaard they will wriggle out of the tight space and keep the ball circulating.

If we want to continue to play transitional counterattack football, Bruno is the guy. If we want to play front-foot possession football like the other top teams he is not the one.

Ellexy:
I no dey wail again sef, just numb to the whole shit show.

patrickmuf:
No bro, we are at the point where as a club, the management has to decide what pattern of play they want and go for a coach that best fits that pattern. That way, we won't be struggling to offload those players when we sign a new manager because he will meet the right crop of players. Man City identified a peculiar style and went for a manager who fit in Pep. If Pep leaves today, they'd go after a manager with a similar style making it easy for him to do his thing.

Our mistake has always been in hiring maners and giving them what they want instead of setting out a definitive pattern of play that makes for easy hiring of managers and recruitment of players with certain profiles.

TrebleChamp:
Manutd has always been is a fluid counter-attacking team that also keep possession well. We need to appoint a Manager that fit that profile and sign players that also fit that profile. I agreed we will need multiple windows to get it right, the new Manager (hopefully) and Dan Ashworth have a lot of work on their hands. I have really missed watching my United with relaxed mind 😩.

Ellexy:
I want to ask, Chelsea under Roman Abramovic was highly successful. They didn't have that definitive pattern of play per say. He just backs whoever the manager is and when the manager fails to deliver, sacking straight up.

One can say the style of play then was simply to deliver on the pitch and win trophies anyhow, whether it's Mourinho's pragmatic style or Ancelotti's pro attacking style.

Madrid does same too, Bayern as well.

afrodoc2:


We don’t have to stick to that particular style that worked in the past. As long as it is attractive football and it wins trophies, I am all for it.

When I started watching Premier League in the early 90s Arsenal were boring boring Arsenal while West Ham were known for attractive football.

We should not be too arrogant to accept other means of success. As long we win meaningful trophies and the football is attractive I don’t care if it’s gegenpressing, possession, or combination, or fluid counterattack like you said. Just play enjoyable football and win titles.

patrickmuf:
Madrid and Bayern before Tuchel had a pattern of play. They play a fast-transitioning game. You listen to everything ETH says and you'll see that he wants us to transition the ball from defence to attack much like Liverpool and Madrid play but he just doesn't have the quality of players to execute it and has refused to wake up to this reality.

And yes, Chelsea under Abramovich sure had a pattern of play. Mourinho favoured sitting deep and hitting teams on the counter with Robben, Darmian Duff, Joe Cole etc. Don't forget Chelsea had an owner with deep pockets and thus could afford to send their way out of trouble.

patrickmuf:
No bro, we are at the point where as a club, the management has to decide what pattern of play they want and go for a coach that best fits that pattern. That way, we won't be struggling to offload those players when we sign a new manager because he will meet the right crop of players. Man City identified a peculiar style and went for a manager who fit in Pep. If Pep leaves today, they'd go after a manager with a similar style making it easy for him to do his thing.

Our mistake has always been in hiring maners and giving them what they want instead of setting out a definitive pattern of play that makes for easy hiring of managers and recruitment of players with certain profiles.

Ellexy:
Other top clubs are looking for managers this summer.

Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea probably.

These clubs and their projects are more attractive than the shit show at United currently.

De Zerbi is the perfect Barca manager.
Nagelsmann is a typical Chelsea coach.
Alonso is going to Bayern or Liverpool.
Potter

raumdeuter:


For the sake of his career he should avoid Bayern for now

Since 2016 Liverpool 1 coach, Since 2016 Bayern 6 coaches

Liverpool will be more patient and understanding, Bayern environment will destroy any coach who doesnt hit the ground running, wins consistently, and win in style. Otherwise they sack him instantly

odizeey:
So Ole wanted Ronaldo.

Those people wey dey recruitment team here, how fa.

Ellexy:
Solskjaer on what he would have changed during his time as Manchester United manager:

"I've thought a lot about this. The right thing was to sign Cristiano, but I think it would've turned out better for Cristiano and for us, if he hadn't signed."

Ellexy:
Other top clubs are looking for managers this summer.

Bayern Munich
Barcelona
Liverpool
Chelsea probably.

These clubs and their projects are more attractive than the shit show at United currently.

De Zerbi is the perfect Barca manager.
Nagelsmann is a typical Chelsea coach.
Alonso is going to Bayern or Liverpool.
Potter

odizeey:
So Ole wanted Ronaldo.

Those people wey dey recruitment team here, how fa.

ChristoBam:

No one's ever said Ole didn't want him. They gave him the option and he said yes. Like he said, so many other clubs were interested in him. He wasn't going to allow him go there.

It was a huge mistake on his part Sha.

TrebleChamp:
So Ronaldo was truly going to Mancity, before United begged him to come to Old Trafford instead? Haterz said Pep was never interested in signing him, i agree with Ole that Ronaldo made a wrong decision returning to United.

odizeey:


If I check well enough, I'll see you saying Ronaldo was forced on him by the board.

ChristoBam:

Lmao. Definitely not spending time arguing this, after getting called different types of names for months for pointing the effects of Ronaldo on the team only for Ole to confirm everything we said.

Go leave main arguments for months come latch on side-comments lol. Nibo.

odizeey:
The person who suffered the most from that signing was Ronaldo.

His white was stained.

We were already shit, without a trophy for close to 4 years, without EPL for almost 10 years. So you guys should not make it look like he came to destroy one winning team that we had built.