odizeey:
Someone was heading elsewhere, we called him here based on legacy.

Una won come dey put the blame on am for destroy the kpangolo structure Ole had.

He came and delivered what he knew how to deliver but una blame am.

You people are evil.

Apt 😎

odizeey:
Someone was heading elsewhere, we called him here based on legacy.

Una won come dey put the blame on am for destroy the kpangolo structure Ole had.

He came and delivered what he knew how to deliver but una blame am.

You people are evil.

This is what Ole had to say. At least, even Ole is agreeing that he also affected the pangolo structure.

He even said you guys were one of the highest pressing teams before Ronaldo and that Cavani was one of those who ensured that.

Jodera:


This is what Ole had to say. At least, even Ole is agreeing that he also affected the pangolo structure.

He even said you guys were one of the highest pressing teams before Ronaldo and that Cavani was one of those who ensured that.

I am not a Ronaldo stan but what exactly does Ole mean when he says we were one of the best pressing teams?

We all complained back then about the lack of coordination in our play so, what exactly does Ole mean? At what point were we a pressing team let one of the best?

patrickmuf:
I am not a Ronaldo stan but what exactly does Ole mean when he says we were one of the best pressing teams?

We all complained back then about the lack of coordination in our play so, what exactly does Ole mean? At what point were we a pressing team let one of the best?

Admittedly he went overboard with that "pressing" thingy (or maybe he has his own definition of pressing) but one thing that I can deduce from his talks is that the presence of Ronaldo changed most of the plans he had entering into that season. Ronaldo might have got the goals but then to Ole, the way he would have loved the teams to have set up that season is not the way it panned out

TrebleChamp:
Ronaldo that came to our shitty team @ 37years and was top scorer. United is still feeling the effect of the damage Ronaldo did to the club..

It's so shameful to see.

Jodera:


This is what Ole had to say. At least, even Ole is agreeing that he also affected the pangolo structure.

He even said you guys were one of the highest pressing teams before Ronaldo and that Cavani was one of those who ensured that.

What's my own with this one you posted

Jodera:
Admittedly he went overboard with that "pressing" thingy (or maybe he has his own definition of pressing) but one thing that I can deduce from his talks is that the presence of Ronaldo changed most of the plans he had entering into that season. Ronaldo might have got the goals but then to Ole, the way he would have loved the teams to have set up that season is not the way it panned out

So why did he buy him?

This was the excuse they gave when they wanted to blame the board on Ronaldo transfer.

Jodera:
Admittedly he went overboard with that "pressing" thingy (or maybe he has his own definition of pressing) but one thing that I can deduce from his talks is that the presence of Ronaldo changed most of the plans he had entering into that season. Ronaldo might have got the goals but then to Ole, the way he would have loved the teams to have set up that season is not the way it panned out

Exactly!

And it's not even difficult. This thing we repeated here again and again and some were tagged 'Ronaldo haters' on this thread even till today.

That's why I'm just really excited about the new structure were implementing now. We should never try that type of mistake in future.

patrickmuf:
I am not a Ronaldo stan but what exactly does Ole mean when he says we were one of the best pressing teams?

We all complained back then about the lack of coordination in our play so, what exactly does Ole mean? At what point were we a pressing team let one of the best?

Lol just interpreted it as 'we were one of the best transition teams'. Damn, I remember how dangerous we were on the break. It was so crazy. Last thing we needed was a Ronaldo.

But I understand. Woodward and co saw Ronaldo was available and could potentially sign for rivals. We had to protect that United legacy. And Ole just couldn't say no.

odizeey:

What's my own with this one you posted

You said Ronaldo's presence didn't affect the structure, so I'm showing you quotes from Ole himself that said his presence did affect his structure and plans

odizeey:


So why did he buy him?

This was the excuse they gave when they wanted to blame the board on Ronaldo transfer.

There's no way he would have said "no" in Ronaldo signing when the board and even Fergie wanted Ronaldo at Man U.

It's not as if Ole is some kind of Pep or something

ChristoBam:

Exactly!

And it's not even difficult. This thing we repeated here again and again and some were tagged 'Ronaldo haters' on this thread even till today.

That's why I'm just really excited about the new structure were implementing now. We should never try that type of mistake in future.

Lol... Yeah.

The thing is that concerning this Ronaldo matter, Ole's interview just proved right all those who were speculating that Ronaldo's acquisition really undid Ole's plan(or whatever it is)

Anyways, like you said, you guys are getting it right in the structure aspect above by putting football people in football places, we'll see how it pans out

ChristoBam:


Lol just interpreted it as 'we were one of the best transition teams'. Damn, I remember how dangerous we were on the break. It was so crazy. Last thing we needed was a Ronaldo.

But I understand. Woodward and co saw Ronaldo was available and could potentially sign for rivals. We had to protect that United legacy. And Ole just couldn't say no.

Ronaldo didn’t help matters by throwing unnecessary tantrums either.

There’s enough blames to go round. Let’s just look forward to a better future for the club, whoever the player or coach or top-level management is.

Jodera:


There's no way he would have said "no" in Ronaldo signing when the board and even Fergie wanted Ronaldo at Man U.

It's not as if Ole is some kind of Pep or something

United managers are actually dictated to, it seems. Mourinho’s interview on his time at Man Utd would be more explosive.

Jodera:
You said Ronaldo's presence didn't affect the structure, so I'm showing you quotes from Ole himself that said his presence did affect his structure and plans

When you buy a star player, you have to fix him to suit your team.

Buy Mbappe, Messi, you will have to tweak the system.

Pep uses strikers that hold the ball, but with Halaand, it had to be different.

So I don't understand why you are blaming Ronaldo for a player that Ole bought by himself.

Same thing is playing out now. This was how they said it was the board and Fergie that forced Ronaldo on him. And you are echoeing the same thing.

Same people who said that are lying that no one said it.

Jodera:
You said Ronaldo's presence didn't affect the structure, so I'm showing you quotes from Ole himself that said his presence did affect his structure and plans

Which structure did Ole had before Ronaldo joined? Was he winning trophies before Ronaldo joined to he team? David Moyes also claimed it was unfair that United sacked him, cos he believed he could have turn thing around. Ole claimed Cavani was good with pressing, but how many goals did Cavani score? Abi when did pressing become the main job of a Striker?
Ole that was so useless tactically/generally, a certain Doc named him Amaka. His uselessness led to the famous e-war between OleOut (true lover of United) and Olesexuals. Ronaldo was a huge success at United, given the rubbish atmosphere he met and rubbish footy Ole and Rafiu gave us. Ole is my Club legend and i love him, but that interview was utter rubbish.

Jodera:
Lol... Yeah.

The thing is that concerning this Ronaldo matter, Ole's interview just proved right all those who were speculating that Ronaldo's acquisition really undid Ole's plan(or whatever it is)

Anyways, like you said, you guys are getting it right in the structure aspect above by putting football people in football places, we'll see how it pans out

For Ole to say United shouldn’t have signed Ronaldo. It’s quite massive.

At that time, we didn’t need Ronaldo and he didn’t need United. But like Lord Luggard, some people forced the marriage for their own reasons.

The good thing about SJR is that they seem to be working behind the scenes and sorting things out without noise. They don’t trust anyone in the club yet, which is a good thing. It’s like everyone is on probation.

Leyqute:


United managers are actually dictated to, it seems. Mourinho’s interview on his time at Man Utd would be more explosive.

I'm not certain about this but I'm sure Ole would have little say in this Ronaldo coming

odizeey:


When you buy a star player, you have to fix him to suit your team.

Buy Mbappe, Messi, you will have to tweak the system.

Pep uses strikers that hold the ball, but with Halaand, it had to be different.

So I don't understand why you are blaming Ronaldo for a player that Ole bought by himself.

Same thing is playing out now. This was how they said it was the board and Fergie that forced Ronaldo on him. And you are echoeing the same thing.

Same people who said that are lying that no one said it.

Nobody is blaming Ronaldo, at least not me. It's just like it's a partnership gone wrong or shouldn't have happened cos it doesn't fit.

And using pep is an anomaly. Pep is the top coach in the world that has a complicated system. Not everyone with his type of system will allow a striker have 9 touches a game and be comfortable. I doubt even Klopp would accept that

TrebleChamp:
Which structure did Ole had before Ronaldo joined? Was he winning trophies before Ronaldo joined to he team? David Moyes also claimed it was unfair that United sacked him, cos he believed he could have turn thing around. Ole claimed Cavani was good with pressing, but how many goals did Cavani score? Abi when did pressing become the main job of a Striker?
Ole that was so useless tactically/generally, a certain Doc named him Amaka. His uselessness led to the famous e-war between OleOut (true lover of United) and Olesexuals. Ronaldo was a huge success at United, given the rubbish atmosphere he met and rubbish footy Ole and Rafiu gave us. Ole is my Club legend and i love him, but that interview was utter rubbish.

This Ole issue can be likened to Arteta and Klopp’s time at Liverpool and Arsenal. They werent instant successes but they each got to a level and then needed to make the next step to become real contenders.

During these moments they bought the right players to take them to the next level. Not ageing daddies trying to reclaim past glories.

United we’re on the verge of taking that next step, until they made the wrong transfer decisions again. I’m not talking about Ronaldo alone here. Most of the players bought during that summer tw shouldn’t have been bought - Tom Heaton, Cristiano Ronaldo, Raphael Varane and Jadon Sancho.

Jodera:
Nobody is blaming Ronaldo, at least not me. It's just like it's a partnership gone wrong or shouldn't have happened cos it doesn't fit.

And using pep is an anomaly. Pep is the top coach in the world that has a complicated system. Not everyone with his type of system will allow a striker have 9 touches a game and be comfortable. I doubt even Klopp would accept that

If you are not blaming Ronaldo, then why did you quote me?
Nobody believed Pep will buy a player like Halaand baba. Pep is the perfect example. Pep selects his players thoroughly.

TrebleChamp:
Which structure did Ole had before Ronaldo joined? Was he winning trophies before Ronaldo joined to he team? David Moyes also claimed it was unfair that United sacked him, cos he believed he could have turn thing around. Ole claimed Cavani was good with pressing, but how many goals did Cavani score? Abi when did pressing become the main job of a Striker?
Ole that was so useless tactically/generally, a certain Doc named him Amaka. His uselessness led to the famous e-war between OleOut (true lover of United) and Olesexuals. Ronaldo was a huge success at United, given the rubbish atmosphere he met and rubbish footy Ole and Rafiu gave us. Ole is my Club legend and i love him, but that interview was utter rubbish.

I don't like it when people are intentionally being dishonest.

Ole was clueless. Ten Hag is just making him look like a good guy.

TrebleChamp:
Which structure did Ole had before Ronaldo joined? Was he winning trophies before Ronaldo joined to he team? David Moyes also claimed it was unfair that United sacked him, cos he believed he could have turn thing around. Ole claimed Cavani was good with pressing, but how many goals did Cavani score? Abi when did pressing become the main job of a Striker?
Ole that was so useless tactically/generally, a certain Doc named him Amaka. His uselessness led to the famous e-war between OleOut (true lover of United) and Olesexuals. Ronaldo was a huge success at United, given the rubbish atmosphere he met and rubbish footy Ole and Rafiu gave us. Ole is my Club legend and i love him, but that interview was utter rubbish.

It was a counter attacking or fast transition structure. I know such structure will hardly give you league sha but I know during Ole's time most of you thought that your Squad was good enough to win the league. I once remember some people here doing head to head alongside Man City and felt man city wasn't far off away from you guys. Even forms sharing too was present here and if I can remember vividly he always finishes around that top 2 and 3.

All what I know is that someone who would create all these debate would really have a structure (tho it might not be the best) and if he says forcing in Ronaldo into his team altered his plans (I mean, you guys finished out of top 4), then he certainly do have some valid points. Cavani might but score more than Ronaldo but as a team, you guys were winning matches more under Ole(without Ronaldo) than under Ole (with Ronaldo)

Leyqute:


For Ole to say United shouldn’t have signed Ronaldo. It’s quite massive.

At that time, we didn’t need Ronaldo and he didn’t need United. But like Lord Luggard, some people forced the marriage for their own reasons.

The good thing about SJR is that they seem to be working behind the scenes and sorting things out without noise. They don’t trust anyone in the club yet, which is a good thing. It’s like everyone is on probation.

Gbammm
100%

odizeey:


If you are not blaming Ronaldo, then why did you quote me?
Nobody believed Pep will buy a player like Halaand baba. Pep is the perfect example. Pep selects his players thoroughly.

You're the one who brought it out about Ole wanting Ronaldo and sarcastically talking about recruitments team here.

I just brought out the quote that even though he wanted him, he still claimed it was a wrong move for all parties and the his presence actually complicated things.

Jodera:

I'm not certain about this but I'm sure Ole would have little say in this Ronaldo coming

He actually alluded to it in the interview. Said it’s part of the reason he has rejected some recent job offers.

Leyqute:


He actually alluded to it in the interview. Said it’s part of the reason he has rejected some recent job offers.

Oh... Wow!!
Ontop people wey no be football people, that's some real shiii

Jodera:

You're the one who brought it out about Ole wanting Ronaldo and sarcastically talking about recruitments team here.

I just brought out the quote that even though he wanted him, he still claimed it was a wrong move for all parties and the his presence actually complicated things.

Whether it was wrong or not is not my business.

Everybody saw how it ended up.

My own is that no one should say Ronaldo was forced on him

odizeey:


I don't like it when people are intentionally being dishonest.

Ole was clueless. Ten Hag is just making him look like a good guy.

This is the reality right now..

Jodera:
It was a counter attacking or fast transition structure. I know such structure will hardly give you league sha but I know during Ole's time most of you thought that your Squad was good enough to win the league. I once remember some people here doing head to head alongside Man City and felt man city wasn't far off away from you guys. Even forms sharing too was present here and if I can remember vividly he always finishes around that top 2 and 3.

All what I know is that someone who would create all these debate would really have a structure (tho it might not be the best) and if he says forcing in Ronaldo into his team altered his plans (I mean, you guys finished out of top 4), then he certainly do have some valid points. Cavani might but score more than Ronaldo but as a team, you guys were winning matches more under Ole(without Ronaldo) than under Ole (with Ronaldo)

Their was no progress under Ole, and he was rightly sacked. Ole was comfortable with his team being mediocre and unambitious, Ronaldo joining and saying he came back to win trophies made Ole and some of his fans uncomfortable. It was here people said Ronaldo was putting pressure on Ole by saying he want to win trophies. That chapter has ended sha, Ole can continue saying what he like. Ten Bald uselessness gave has given mouth to talk...

Terrible back pass from Ruben Curley. 2-1 at HT

A couple of the U-18 lads are in the U-21 squad tonight. Amass looks comfortable even though he’s playing in midfield.