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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jandminded: 8:10am On Mar 10 |
Lovenorth: Demilitarized a sovereign country? Can you even listen to yourself? You are too sentimental |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jandminded: 8:11am On Mar 10 |
Lanre1st: Who told you that it's Ukraine membership bid to join NATO is the sole reason for the war? Should Ukraine forfeit all her territories that Russia is occupying? |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by mrdan(m): 8:12am On Mar 10 |
GlobeTrotter2: From this I can say that Russia was the one that showed the US the way to go about encircling your your enemy. US learnt from Russia with the Cuba crisis issue and now they are doing the same back to Russia. |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Nyanabo(m): 8:12am On Mar 10 |
tctrills: What opinion? Did you see me drop any opinion there 🙄 |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 8:15am On Mar 10 |
YouAreNobody:You are wrong. Zellensky did nothing shameful. It's true that he caved in to the wills of the most powerful nations but there is no shame in that. Like all of us, he probably made many bad decisions but under such pressure who wouldn't. In this war, no one seems to be making the right decision. Not Russia, not the EU and not the US 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Lexusgs430: 8:20am On Mar 10 |
Not until Russia fully pays the price, to rebuild Ukraine...... Until then...... The fight must continue...... Ukraine must not give up now..... All those lost lives for nothing...... MBA.....😀 |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Amayabor1: 8:27am On Mar 10 |
OyinO: Ignorant Buffon. Let me lecture you a little; 1. Ukraine, as a sovereign nation has the right to decide to join ANY association they deem fit. That is why they are a sovereign nation. The decision whether or whether not to join Nato is a decision only Ukrainians can take and no Nation on earth has the right to attack another country because the country desires to join an association. 2. Why didn't Russia attack Sweden and Finland when they made their plans to join Nato? Sweden has joined Nato. Finland joined Nato few days ago. Why didn't Russia attack these countries?. The ignorant fool doesn't even know that Nato already has military bases close to Russia. Poland, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania all share boarders with Russia and they are all Nato members. Before Finland joined NATO, NATO had land borders with Russia that spanned 754 miles across northern Norway, eastern Latvia and Estonia, and the borders with Poland and Lithuania around Russia's Kaliningrad region. Finland joining adds 830 miles of continuous border along northwestern Russia, taking the total to 1,584 miles. So, how did Russia invading ukraine prevent other countries from joining Nato? Nato is now in Russia's backyard like never before. Cry me a river! 😅😅😅 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by alcuin(m): 8:35am On Mar 10 |
YouAreNobody: They are collecting "wotociously". 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by PlsStayAlive: 8:35am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:Does it 'cost' truly register with you as you type behind the comfort of your keyboard? The cost is everything but not the battle initiators themselves, to insult you dey hungry me, but I'm too lazy sha this morning 😂 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Lovenorth: 8:35am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:Yes they are threatening the existence of their country because of harbouring US and UK's military hardware |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by bluefilm: 8:41am On Mar 10 |
reiddecuti: From ab initio, Ukraine knew they can never win a war against Mother Russia. Just that their greedy leaders allowed America to play ludo with their future and the lives of their citizens. God bless Mother Russia. God bless Vladimir Putin 6 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Inyinese(m): 8:43am On Mar 10 |
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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by CyberWolf: 8:47am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:will USA allow China or Russia to build a military base in Mexico, Cuba or even anywhere in Central America? 4 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by SolomonGrandi: 8:49am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: Just dey talk like small pikin 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by SOSPITAS(m): 8:51am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays:the undertone of what you have op-ed is thus, NATO is the good guys while the others are the bad guys. Only the naïve interprets conflict as good vs evil rather than what it actually is; a conflict of interest. Russia is following the precedent set by NATO in invading Ukraine. for example, lets go down memory lane 1) NATO intervene in Yugoslavia without approval from the UNSC under the guise of protecting civilians from genocide. Russia claimed it intervene in the Donbass to protect the civilians majority of whom are Russians from been targeted. 2) NATO annex Kosovo from Serbia, again without the approval of the UNSC. they did this with a scam referendum. Russia annex Crimea with 90% Russian population after a referendum too . 3) the united state invaded Afghanistan under the pretext of confronting security threat, Russia claim similar reasons for its special military operation. 4)The united state again illegally invaded another sovereign country which is Iraq under a spurious, fraudulent charges of possessing WMD. 5) the united state is currently occupying part of Syria illegally( coincidentally, that is the oil producing area) under the pretext of fighting terrorist. 6) the united state together with Israel is carrying out an ethnic cleansing of the population of Gaza under the pretext of fighting Hamas despite the ICJ ruling it a case of plausible genocide. the reason why international law cannot be applied in the Ukraine war is because the united state has undermined the institutions by taking illegal unilateral actions. it is for this reasons nations in the global south refuse to place sanctions on Russia because they can see the hypocrisy. 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by binary01: 8:53am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:read before you post, educate yourself on the topic before giving an opinion, this war is not ludo or a kids game, there are no "winners" or " lossers" just senseless destruction and waste of lives on all sides 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Exousiang01(m): 9:09am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: You obviously are the most ignorant person in the world right now. You know absolutely nothing about the war. It would have been best for you to keep quiet 3 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Chickensoup: 9:14am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:You have to understand that world powers have an unwritten control over the countries close to them. Even America and UK does that. There is an island that UK took which belongs to Argentina and till today, UK refuses to give it back. Some of the states in US belonged to Mexico and US hasn't returned them back. The difference is that The West control the media so they hide their evil deeds. Now the war between Russia and Ukraine won't have been prevented with Ukraine having nukes. What you don't seem to realize is that Russia isn't using it's full might on Ukraine. Russia has the most number of Nukes and if Ukraine uses Nuke, there would not be a UKRAINE anymore. 5 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by talkreal: 9:19am On Mar 10 |
Lovenorth: You sound quite pathetic. Do you know the meaning of a sovereign nation? |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by travelzcruix: 9:24am On Mar 10 |
This war is like; let Russia and NATO fight but not in our mansion,let's take the fighting to that wayward son's compound who lives down the street. 6 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Abufo: 9:25am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: You are not conversant with the issues at stake in the Ukraine conflict.........Eastern Ukraine (the Dunbass region) ,crimea,Odessa and Kharkiv are historically Russian regions.........These regions were gifted in part to ukraine under the soviet union, unfortunately under the sorcery of the western powers ukraine started causing problems for the Russian speaking peoples of these regions, they stopped them from speaking their native russian and stared renaming their towns...........the whole thing led to a war in 2014 and the russian invasion 2 years ago! Russian knows and understands war..............they defeated sweden,france ,britain and Germany in different wars...so do not try scaring them with war o! Russian enemies are the ones to be scared sef! 9 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by humilitypays(m): 9:27am On Mar 10 |
SOSPITAS:I understand the point you are making, but my point is, stop justifying evil against a different set of people just because you hate the actions of another entirely different person. You are justifying Russia's invasion of Ukraine just because you believe USA did something similar, that is wickedness. I condemn US actions in certain places like Iraq especially. I do not have full knowledge of the Kosovo and Yugoslavia wars, so I can't talk about those. What is happening in Gaza was self inflicted by Hamas even though Israel have gone overboard but who started the trouble? Mind you, I am not saying because Russia invaded Ukraine therefore Israel have the right to invade Gaza. These are different people, different countries. I am judging mine on case by case scenario, I am not supporting whatever US did in the past or doing, I am not comparing US or NATO with Russia, I am only calling evil the evil it is. What Russia did to Ukraine is complete evil, invaded them without provocation even after taking Crimea and other areas. I wish Israel could seize fire and allow for negotiations and possibly give chance for a two state solution. I am all for peace and I hate injustice. Wherever US did injustice I condemn it and pray they reap the reward, the same way I totally condemn Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine on mere suspicion of joining NATO yet they haven't seized fire even after massacring thousands of Ukrainians which have served as enough warning not to join NATO, but because Russia is on a mission to grab land, they have refused to withdraw and let peace reign and here you guys are supporting such cruelty just because you hate US and whatever you feel they did to other countries, where is your humanity? If Russia wants to teach US a lesson, why cant they summon courage and invade or attack US so we can laugh at US together and point our finger that shebi una de do am to other countries since? Why must you be happy that Russia is killing Ukrainians an entirely different country and different people just because you believed US did similar thing to other countries, where is your conscience? 6 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by talkreal: 9:28am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays: I wish I could give over a 100 likes. Your knowledge of international Relations/politics is great! The best analysis I have read on this Russia/Ukraine issues not all these emotional or hatred based comments 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Exousiang01(m): 9:32am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays: Go back and read up on how NATO started and how many country members they had and what was promised at the commissioning of NATO. Now go again and check the number of member countries NATO has now. When you have done that, now come and tell us why Russia should believe any "gentleman statement they make now when they have never kept to any gentleman agreements made in the past. After making and breaking promises time after time, you expect Russia to take any chances? |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:35am On Mar 10 |
Nyanabo:You obviously don't know what you did. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Exousiang01(m): 9:36am On Mar 10 |
ufotunang: I hope we won't have you in any public office ever. Do you think Putin is doing this for himself? Somebody is defending his country. WAIT...... DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE REASOM FOR THE WAR? You sound like you think Russia wants Ukrainian lands.... Please go and read up on the war and stop this display of ignorance |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by YouAreNobody: 9:40am On Mar 10 |
tctrills:It's shameful because he had the choice of sticking to the Minsk agreement but reneged, thinking he'll be allowed into NATO and expecting unflinching support from US and NATO. The truth is that even US didn't expect Russia will be this strong, they thought Russia will collapse under the weight of sanctions but....here we are 3 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Exousiang01(m): 9:44am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:Welcome to planet Earth sir. I say welcome become only someone who but arrived this Earth doesnt know. Except you are extremely ignorant 3 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tnerro1(m): 9:45am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: They should win in a costly way? Have you been to war before? |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Mrfeel: 9:49am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:All these questions you are asking shows you know nothing about the Russian Ukraine invasion , go and listen to the lasted interview of Putin to understand better |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by tctrills: 9:56am On Mar 10 |
YouAreNobody:There are always compelling arguments one way of the other. Russia had the choice of not going into war. The world always knew that Russia was very strong. On the contrary, this war exposed Russians weaknesses. Imagine Russia the second Strongest military not being able to make any important battlefield gains in over a year and not having air dominance over the course of the war. We all expected much more from Russia. |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by naija4life247: 9:57am On Mar 10 |
reiddecuti: You still brought us into this discussion, the lost of these consecutive Presidential elections must have been so traumatic. Well, you will still lose the next three consecutive Presidential elections, that is if you have not drunk insecticide before then 1 Like |
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