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Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Smartguyboy(m): 10:03am On Mar 10 |
malali: USA has given over 75 billion dollars in aid to ukraine. The aid are not free it’s a loan 💵 which they will pay back and almost %70-90 of the aid must be use to buy USA manufacture weapons. Still win win for USA . 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Smartguyboy(m): 10:06am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: Will USA and NATO invade Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya if they have nukes ? And what was the reason again they invaded Iraq? 10 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Abagworo(m): 10:12am On Mar 10 |
People profiting from the war will never allow its end. As Africans we should also be aware that an end to the war means the start of another war in Africa to enrich the weapons manufacturers. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:12am On Mar 10 |
96ACE: That what he meant in codded language 3 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Kingsnairaland(m): 10:21am On Mar 10 |
Hoelujohn: Lol not even up to 100k from Russia side are dead and this are still militants that live in donbass area and few Russian army men that volunteers real Russia troops are waiting on the side lines 4 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GUNITGuy: 10:27am On Mar 10 |
boris Johnson persuaded him to get into the war banking on NATO support .....After many negotiation by Putinn to strike a deal in which zelelensky signed at Istanbul only to renege the agreement on go back into the war becos of Nato promise ..... simple stuff Ukraine should be a buffer between russia and the rest of nato not an alliance to their enemies 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by YouAreNobody: 10:30am On Mar 10 |
tctrills: You're totally wrong. And don't say "the world", US and NATO are only 45% of countries in the world so they don't make up the world😃 If you check the early months of the war, Russia was advancing rapidly. They even made entreaties into Kiev but changed course. That wasn't a mistake. They don't want Ukraine to fall as western media would make you think. A totally inept Ukraine will be a load on Russia considering the fact that they share borders. Also, this isn't a Ukraine - Russia war as you seem to think. This is a proxy way between Russia and NATO. Ukraine is only the battleground. You say Russia had the choice of not going to war. Actually, this war should've started as far back as 2014 when Ukraine started hobnobbing with US and NATO despite the Minsk agreement. Remember what caused the Cuban missiles crisis? It was this exactly scenario; Cuba and Russia were allies and when Russia wanted to build a missile base in Cuba, US invaded Cuba. The crazy thing is Cuba doesn't border US in any way except that it's close to the US mainland. Contrary to what you think, this war has actually shown that Russia is far stronger than NATO expected. Even, despite all the sanctions (more than 200 from different countries so far) they've grown their economy by more than 14%. This is something unprecedented as economies are expected to retrogress during wartime. Even the US economy hasn't grown up to 3% since the past 3 years. This should tell you something 😀 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GUNITGuy: 10:36am On Mar 10 |
Lexusgs430:kiev is almost under siege and might be lost before August.......E.U as vowed not to loose this war but thats a joke they are already trying to officially go into the war as NATO thats a disaster waiting to befall the developed countries of Europe.... This generation of Europeans have never seen war on their soil but it might hit them this time be it U.S OR UK OR FRANCE OR GERMANY.....its going to be a serious devastation most likely in the next 10 yrs .... Putin knows what to do should event NATO officially thats what they are afraid of if not they would have invaded Russia long ago but u see those nukes in the hands of russia would wipe out more than half of Europe and America simultaneously.... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by maasoap(m): 10:36am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: Russian is not looking for winning but the war will prolong endlessly. Ukraine will keep losing soldiers, civilians, territories and most importantly infrastructures. At the end of the day, they will still negotiate. So, what will be their gain upon all the stubbornness? This is what Pope is urging them to avoid 5 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:38am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: What costly way again are you proposing? Russia has not even declared war on Ukraine yet this is just a special military operation. If Ukraine should do what will make Russia declare total war on Ukraine, Ukraine will be gone for life and y'all will come online shouting pray for Ukraine. Ukraine brought this upon themselves and Russia used attacking kyiv as a decoy to build defense lines in the donbass region which worked perfectly tho they lost some equipments and personnel. Russia has brought up peace plans since before not but NATO asked Ukraine not to sign them because they believed the sanctions will cripple Russia. 4 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by maasoap(m): 10:39am On Mar 10 |
Hoelujohn:Whaaaaat? Abeg, quit the joke 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by maasoap(m): 10:41am On Mar 10 |
Bunnatex:They did that already, they wanted to be with Russia but Zelensky wouldn't have it. Instead, he was killing them 2 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Dream25: 10:42am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:There's nothing like Ukraine, they're all Rus people. The first Ukrainian state was in 20 century, it's all Rus land.. That aside, would US have invaded Afghanistan, Iraq if they had nuke?.. Why invade Afghanistan, Iraq that didn't violate your country's territorial integrity?. Can US invade China because they possess weapon of mass destruction?.. Maybe you're just following this Special military operation, Russia surround Kiev to force Zelensky into negotiation and they achieve what they want but UK former PM was the one deceive the Ukrainian into believing they can stop Russia. Ukraine was ready to agree to the Russia demand, it's simple.. The soldiers that surround Kiev were even inform not to bomb or kill. There were videos making round then of Russia soldiers asking what they're doing in Kiev if they cannot bomb and strike it.. This is not the first time Russia is doing this, Russia surround Georgia capital Tbilisi to force Georgia into negotiation and they left after achieving their aim.. Nobody is begging them to gree, they're already dying mercilessly and using propaganda to boost their pay master ego.. 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GUNITGuy: 10:42am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:NATO expansion to Eastern Europe to the exclusion of russia has been the pproblem for the last 30yrs .........this are former ussr countries given independence with the agreement of not forming any alliance against russian interest.......This didnt start with Putin 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by maasoap(m): 10:44am On Mar 10 |
GRACEGLORY:And they have something to show for it. The greatest of all that is they stopped Ukraine from joining NATO. 2 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:47am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays: When we say you people should read about the cause of the war una no go gree. Ukraine started killing pro Russians in the donbass regions, even burnt people they barricaded in a hall and set the all on fire killing these pro Russians. USA sponsored a coup in 2014 that removed a Ukrainian president who was more friendly towards russia.the rest is history now. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:51am On Mar 10 |
ufotunang: He's defending his nation and people like a true leader should. Not like the idiots we have in Nigeria who don't care about us. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Dream25: 10:52am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays:Russia enter Ukraine because Ukraine was killing thousands of Russia ethnic in Eastern Ukraine.. Russia try for waiting for Ukraine to implement the Minsk agreement for 8 years.. 3 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:54am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays: Lol same USA that has refused to leave same Syria,why? Libya was destroyed by NATO and Obama even came online to announce that they have successfully killed Gaddafi to what end? Libya was one of the best African country at this time, NATO destroyed it and left it like that why? 4 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:56am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded: This question should be directed to USA. Russia wanted to join NATO under bill Clinton but they refused why? 2 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by talkreal: 10:56am On Mar 10 |
GUNITGuy: if Russia wipe off more than half of Europe and America, what will the rest of the World do, just fold their arms or clap for Russia? You don't know the kind of defense even maybe nuclear defense that some Nations have. Nobody knows that USA have such a devastating weapon during the ww2 until it was used in Japan. So quit threatening the rest of the world with Russia nuclear weapons My observation this Russia Ukraine war is the sincerity of those nations supporting Ukraine in this war against Russia. Many of these simply taking it easy or just being careful to avoid collateral damages because they knew Putin can be crazy . Ukraine is the one suffering most because the war is their territory and they are also trying to abide by the rule or war and it's morality. If it were to be similar crazier countries like Israel, Iran or North Korea Putin for not try such thing, because if it were to Israel, if hit Jerusalem they will retaliate by hitting Moscow instantly. War is not good thing.Russia should quit this war because they're the aggressor nor Ukraine. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:57am On Mar 10 |
tctrills: Russia is definitely making the right decision and will achieve all they said they would. It's USA , NATO, Ukraine and the EU that have made the wrong decisions to go to war with Russia. 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Jovi10: 10:59am On Mar 10 |
Amayabor1: Was cuba not a sovereign Nation? Why didn't USA allow them have a military alliance with the USSR too? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GenFunction: 11:01am On Mar 10 |
Codedly,russia has lost as much soldiers as ukraine or even more sef. |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Draslo(m): 11:02am On Mar 10 |
GlobeTrotter2:Even after the small history lesson you just told him, he still won't be curious enough to research the Cuban Missile crisis. Many Nigerians don't deserve the internet. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by Aremson14(m): 11:02am On Mar 10 |
Are you telling me no one has died in Ukraine since the war begin? how come we do not have a number 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GUNITGuy: 11:14am On Mar 10 |
talkreal:It's not about weapons here ....Both sides have the most lethal neither do we have the full information of the destructive weapons at their disposal.... Have you ever asked why the Richest people in America in particular are already building nuclear bunkers....They know the war id imminent now than they initially anticipated.... Germany had to start building its own army again ... Look it's not a joke here .,..Russia has the capacity to hit the US hinterland from Space and Vice Versa....That's why they are careful in taking any war decision against Russia other than "Sanctions" 2 Likes |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by alizma: 11:23am On Mar 10 |
reiddecuti:No matter how it ends anytime soon or otherwise, Ukraine has changed countries' view of Russia when it comes to fight war. Two years down the line, Ukraine is still standing and even giving conditions on which they will embrace peace. Going by Russia propaganda at the birth of this war, one would think that by no, no living thing of Ukraine origin is alive. |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by malakaimoscondo: 11:30am On Mar 10 |
Jandminded:omuzo |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by hotseat: 11:31am On Mar 10 |
That the pontiff is desperate to have a negotiated settlement is obvious. However, he seems to have succumb to the doctrine of "might is right", as it were. Russia is the aggressor and poor Ukraine has a moral and patriotic obligation to defend its motherland even if at a great cost. If the Kremlin is allowed to get away with this arrant show of imperialistic force, it would send a wrong signal to other rogue countries nursing the idea of invading their less endowed neighbours. If Kyiv surrenders to Moscow, it would not just be a browbeating for Ukraine, but most especially the USA and NATO. If might becomes right, then the world would have inadvertently retuned to the Hobbesian state of nature. The world must say "no!" to Putin. @hotseat 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by GUNITGuy: 11:32am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays:So you think Russia just invaded for just mere suspicion....Do you know that they've been war in Ukraine since 2014 but the media was not letting it out because they more important wars especially the ISIS one and it was between separatist group supported by Putin and Ukraine Govt supported by U.S... Prior to that the Former President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovich was ousted after a protest simply because he was tilting more to Kremlin than than Europe this led Putin to Annex Crimea as Russian territory... They Gave up that after a referendum.... But another problem were the Separatist group in Ukraine wanting to join Russia that's an issue for the coming Ukrainian govt... There was also Consensus in the Ukrainian Constitution to Join NATO which was almost ratified by Zelensky... Zelensky was pushing for it than any President in the History of that country ....Even though he knows the consequences.... U.S objectives in Ukraine is to establish a Military base Monitoring Russia just as they are doing in Taiwan against China .....Iraq against Iran ....... 1 Like |
Re: Pope Says Ukraine Should Have The ‘Courage Of The White Flag’ by SaLongs1(m): 11:32am On Mar 10 |
humilitypays:Your type is very rare because you can read from the number of comments insisting that might is right, which is why this country so messed up. 1 Like 1 Share |
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