Congratulations bro. I am really happy for you.

Originalsly:


Migrating and making it depend more on the above than luck. Then how willing we are to adapt? How many of us can shove aside our pride?... as in to move from a manager to a warehouse worker? Most of us would prefer to wait jobless rather than take a job beneath our certification. We see this with graduates ... yearsss waiting for a job that fit their certification.
My question to OP ... how is the social life so far?

Just a quick clarification. There are no menial jobs in developed countries. Every job you do is valued and oyibo will never look down on you based on the job you do. For this reason, a manager in Naija will not have any problem taking up a cleaner job. Besides, there is no huge disparity in pay like we have in Nigeria. Unlike Naija companies where managers earn hundreds of thousands and cleaners 15K, here if I work as a cleaner and earn $2k monthly, a manager in my company can’t earn more than 4K. He will pay more tax than me and will not enjoy some benefits I get as a low income earner. If you’ve been to a developed country then you’ll understand how shitty Nigeria is.

Everything will work out for good. No fear

Thanks for sharing your experience but trust me there are corrupt officers everywhere just pray you don't encountered them. Though the rate of African own may be higher

Waiting

Usefulsense:



I am open to any question you may have.

Congratulations brother. I wish the best in your future endeavors!

I tap into your grace. By the grace of God I shall share my testimony too one day. My dream of migrating to Aussie shall come to pass. Amen!

Modify:
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OP I have edited oo that's not what I meant oo

Congratulations once again... I sha hope by the time I graduate make Aussie never close door oo lol

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

Sydney still get space? Pitching my tent

chidi4sam:



I migrated to Australia to on December 23rd 2023. My wife came in as a student in July 2023 while my daughter and I, joined her in December. For the past 3 months, there is no day I don't thank God for bringing me into this country. I stay in Newcastle NSW too. 1:30 drive from Sydney. Congratulations Sir

Edit and update your comment without address.
Unless you want to be Pop Smoke.

Matheusmartin:
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God bless you for sharing.
I'm 30. Plenty hope still dey.

Still not happy with the oversabi angel that sent me to Nigeria though.
We go settle scores when the time comes..

Lol

BobbyZrealist:


Edit and update your comment without address.
Unless you want to be Pop Smoke.

Bro, you literally quoted the entire comment without striking out the same address you talked about. By the way, it's gonna take a high level of stalking and hacking to track down someone without a picture and personal information spread all over the Nairaland in a place as big as Australia.

I can do that since I've got mental issues which makes me obsess about things I'm working on .

Congratulations! Here's wishing you and your family all the best in Australia.

It's sad that our leaders travel abroad, they see how organized the countries they visit are, yet they do nothing to improve the Iives of Nigerians. It's mind-boggling. Honestly speaking, sometimes I can't help thinking that something is inherently wrong with black people especially our rudderless leaders, and their praise- singers. If you've never been outside of Nigeria,you'd never know how grossly messed up Nigeria is.

BobbyZrealist:


Edit and update your comment without address.
Unless you want to be Pop Smoke.

Did you see house address there? Newcastle is just a region under NSW. Sydney also is under NSW. So how is that an issue?

VAPatrick:



Just a quick clarification. There are no menial jobs in developed countries. Every job you do is valued and oyibo will never look down on you based on the job you do. For this reason, a manager in Naija will not have any problem taking up a cleaner job. Besides, there is no huge disparity in pay like we have in Nigeria. Unlike Naija companies where managers earn hundreds of thousands and cleaners 15K, here if I work as a cleaner and earn $2k monthly, a manager in my company can’t earn more than 4K. He will pay more tax than me and will not enjoy some benefits I get as a low income earner. If you’ve been to a developed country then you’ll understand how shitty Nigeria is.

While waiting to get one certification I did here, I went to search for a part time job in chicken factory company where I saw what surprised me. 90% of people working there are Australians. They come to work with their luxurious cars, go into the factory, work ( buchery, packing, packaging and stacking) and then go home.

Life here is actually different from what we have know. Even when you are called for interview, you do that from the comfort of your home without stress. God bless Australia.

Nigeria still dey 19th century, others don leave us behind. Congratulations Mr OP,you made one of the best decision for the benefit of yourself and your family and will eternally grateful for the bold step you took.

Congratulations Sir,
Your last statement "your wife can divorce you at anytime" is very interesting and is the reason most people are still in Nigeria.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

Thanks for your post , please what advise wil you give someone under the age 26 planning to come to Australia on a work visa . What better menial jobs can he start with ?

Usefulsense:


Australia really humbled me. Imagine a financial controller in Nigeria now picking and packing cartons in warehouses in Australia.

The only thing I miss, is the big man mentality we have in Nigeria. Where I will sit in my office, call one of my staff in intercom and ask for a cup of coffee; and it will be brought to me in seconds. You can't try that rubbish here.

Yes it is very humbling my brother. I can not imagine a man at almost 50 years decelerating from being a Boss to a Boy Boy for Oyibos. In exchange for clean 247 electricity and security. Definitely, they are better organized than us, right?

But it depends on where you lived in Nigeria. You mentioned being an Igbo man, so it could be that your city is not properly organized as opposed to other places with serene air and cleaner environments.

Alternatively, working as a warehouse handy-man is boy boy in your language. But congratulations for promoting yourself from big man to boy boy.

I promise you that we will build Nigeria, so your children can have a better place to return to, and hopefully you will be visiting often and not when you are too weak to be useful to Nigeria.

TheBillyonaire:





Yes it is very humbling my brother. I can not imagine a man at almost 50 years decelerating from being a Boss to a Boy Boy for Oyibos. In exchange for clean 247 electricity and security. Definitely, they are better organized than us, right?

But it depends on where you lived in Nigeria. You mentioned being an Igbo man, so it could be that your city is not properly organized as opposed to other places with serene air and cleaner environments.

Alternatively, working as a warehouse handy-man is boy boy in your language. But congratulations for promoting yourself from big man to boy boy.

I promise you that we will build Nigeria, so your children can have a better place to return to, and hopefully you will be visiting often and not when you are too weak to be useful to Nigeria.

For how long exactly, when the citizens can't obey simple rules? The fact that although most Australians are of British descent yet control their country shows that the black man has a lot to learn.

Who will be bold enough to take back out country, brutally set a blueprint, divide the country by referendum, and save the black race from this shame? Why are people holding on to One Nigeria when it's not working?

Even the United States understands the importance of autonomy and that is why each state is autonomous to an extent.


Black people 😢😔.

Usefulsense:
Before I commence my story, I want to specifically thank those who advised me not to travel. Your advise was borne out of genuine love and concern. One stated clearly that I should not leave known for unknown.

However, taking the bold step to leave Nigeria at the time I did was the best decision I ever made in my life. In fact, given the same scenario and even if I am 52 and my salary was #2million per month, I will still leave Nigeria.

The first 2 months was very difficult. The mistake I made was my insistence on getting accounting job. I did over 60 applications and all of them were rejected. I have no Australian experience neither do I have Australian certification.

My wifey was indeed an angle in human form. She provided the needed support. She shouldered all the financial responsibilities all by herself. This is the part that almost pushed me into depression. As an Igboman, we consider it a taboo for our women to feed, house and cloth us.

After two months, I decided it was time to re-strategize. I enrolled for a forklift training and within two week, I obtained my forklift license.
Not satisfied with that, I took some courses and did some checks that will qualify me to go into disability support work. I obtained First aid certificate, Diploma in mental health, certificate in infection prevention and control, certificate in care for the aged and disabled, police check, working with children checks, NDIS worker check, NDIS orientation certificate and many more.

I started applying for warehouse jobs. In fact, I had to reject a lot of them. I settled for one of the warehouses and it has been awesome working for the organization.

I have not gotten what I am looking for yet. I am using the warehouse to keep body and soul together. In the warehouse where I work, you will see people of different ages. from 18 years to 65 years working and making a good living. in Australia, there is always something to do.

The only thing I miss, is the big man mentality we have in Nigeria. Where I will sit in my office, call one of my staff in intercom and ask for a cup of coffee; and it will be brought to me in seconds. You can't try that rubbish here.

The level of security here is top notch. I have no fear, i move about anytime of the day/night.

After one week in Australia, I concluded that Nigeria is a completely lawless country and an animal jungle. Here everything is ordered. I am yet to hear a driver blow his car horn while driving. There are no touts, there are no omoniles. Electricity has never blinked for one second. water is constant, gas is there. I have never seen two persons fighting in the street. I have never seen a mad man or woman on the road or street beggars. The air we breath here is different from the air we breath in Nigeria.

It was in Australia that I realized that the saying in Nigeria that Nigerian police is your friend is actually true. Break the law in Nigeria and police catches you, just give them #2,000 you are off the hook. And the circle of lawlessness continues. Here, it is a different ball game. Proposing bribe will be used as evidence against you. It doesn't matter who you are. Every one is civil.

While in Nigeria I suffered malaria every month. There is no month I don't treat malaria. Since I got to this country, I have never had headache let alone malaria.

Children are doing wonderfully well at school and are already speaking through their nose.

In conclusion, I made the best choice. Even though I have not really found the kind of job I want to do, the little I am doing now contributes in paying bills and I have savings more than my monthly gross per month in Nigeria.

If you are above 45 years and have your partner already in this country, and you are an employee of a company, it is in your best interest to leave Nigeria. Provided, of course, that you are healthy and you are not lazy.

One dark side to moving abroad is that you have more chances of being divorced by your wife. This is a story for another day as I have gathered enough reason on why families divorce and will create a thread on this someday.


I am open to any question you may have.

At 48yrs that you were at the top of your accounting career earning good money in Nigeria, you spent millions to travel to Australia only to go and be learning forklifting and mental health and care giving job at 48yrs when you should be planning retirement

I know say na your wife push you into this...most of the men na their wives dey


I wish you luck sir ....they way it is you will work till your 70s! How do you guys even take such decision

Wats de pay like plus is there trademan training school that offer dependent visa as well

Abdulquadrimuha:


Congratulations brother. I wish the best in your future endeavors!

I tap into your grave. By the grace of God I shall share my testimony too one day. My dream of migrating to Aussie shall come to pass. Amen!

which one b u tap into his grave,edit bro

You clearly missed the part he said he has more savings by month end, and a more quality life than when he was here.
His a first generation migrant, his children will be second generation, they will have it far much better and easier than him. Most people migrate for thier children.

Points to Consider when relocating
1. Net savings after tax and monthly expenses
2. Quality of life
3. Personal career prospect and that of other family members
4. Life in retirement

AmuDimpka:


At 48yrs that you were at the top of your accounting career earning good morning in Nigeria, you spent millions to travel to Australia only to go and be learning forklifting and mental health and care giving job at 48yrs when you should be planning retirement


I wish you luck sir ....they way it is you will work till your 70s! How do you guys even take such decision

Usefulsense:


The only thing I miss, is the big man mentality we have in Nigeria. Where I will sit in my office, call one of my staff in intercom and ask for a cup of coffee; and it will be brought to me in seconds. You can't try that rubbish here.

The level of security here is top notch. I have no fear, i move about anytime of the day/night.

After one week in Australia, I concluded that Nigeria is a completely lawless country and an animal jungle.

Here everything is ordered. I am yet to hear a driver blow his car horn while driving. There are no touts, there are no omoniles.

Electricity has never blinked for one second. water is constant, gas is there. I have never seen two persons fighting in the street. I have never seen a mad man or woman on the road or street beggars. The air we breath here is different from the air we breath in Nigeria.

It was in Australia that I realized that the saying in Nigeria that Nigerian police is your friend is actually true. Break the law in Nigeria and police catches you, just give them #2,000 you are off the hook. And the circle of lawlessness continues. Here, it is a different ball game. Proposing bribe will be used as evidence against you. It doesn't matter who you are. Every one is civil.

While in Nigeria I suffered malaria every month. There is no month I don't treat malaria. Since I got to this country, I have never had headache let alone malaria.

Children are doing wonderfully well at school and are already speaking through their nose.

These are the reasons why many right thinking people japa, not just about the money they intend on sending home alone.

Usefulsense:


Australia really humbled me. Imagine a financial controller in Nigeria now picking and packing cartons in warehouses in Australia.

Put simply, life humbled you in Australia.


In the long run, the humility lessons are worth it.

AmuDimpka:


At 48yrs that you were at the top of your accounting career earning good morning in Nigeria, you spent millions to travel to Australia only to go and be learning forklifting and mental health and care giving job at 48yrs when you should be planning retirement


I wish you luck sir ....they way it is you will work till your 70s! How do you guys even take such decision

LOL. Be playing. Why do you go to work if not to make money and enjoy. He can save 4-5M monthly in Australia even after expenses as compared his total take home of less than 1M as an account in Nigeria.

And yes, Australian lifestyle makes you active even at old age. People of 90+ years and still driving and walking without assistance here because of their lifestyle. Someone in Nigeria is already too old for anything at 60.

Lastly, you stand a chance of securing the destiny of your children for ever by becomimg citizens in the nearest futher. The money he spent to relocate will be recovered in less than 6 months. Australia is not lousy like UK, Canada, US. Just relax, make your money and enjoy life.

chidi4sam:


LOL. Be playing. Why do you go to work if not to make money and enjoy. He can save 4-5M monthly in Australia even after expenses as compared his total take home of less than 1M as an account in Nigeria.

And yes, Australian lifestyle makes you active even at old age. People of 90+ years and still driving and walking without assistance here because of their lifestyle. Someone in Nigeria is already too old for anything at 60.

Lastly, you stand a chance of securing the destiny of your children for ever by becomimg citizens in the nearest futher. The money he spent to relocate will be recovered in less than 6 months. Australia is not lousy like UK, Canada, US. Just relax, make your money and enjoy life.

he can save 4 - 5 million monthly...dey play !

Abi you dey tell person wey no get people for Aussie

Well, ignorance is bliss ... At that age he should be planning retirement and not emigration to go and start life again

That's my own opinion and I think I have right to that

chidi4sam:


LOL. Be playing. Why do you go to work if not to make money and enjoy. He can save 4-5M monthly in Australia even after expenses as compared his total take home of less than 1M as an account in Nigeria.

And yes, Australian lifestyle makes you active even at old age. People of 90+ years and still driving and walking without assistance here because of their lifestyle. Someone in Nigeria is already too old for anything at 60.

Lastly, you stand a chance of securing the destiny of your children for ever by becomimg citizens in the nearest futher. The money he spent to relocate will be recovered in less than 6 months. Australia is not lousy like UK, Canada, US. Just relax, make your money and enjoy life.

the way una talk...so destiny of those millions of kids in Nigeria aren't secured also he stand the chance of having his kids enter LGTBQ woke group and do drugs also

boringdraw:
You clearly missed the part he said he has more savings by month end, and a more quality life than when he was here.
His a first generation migrant, his children will be second generation, they will have it far much better and easier than him. Most people migrate for thier children.

Points to Consider when relocating
1. Net savings after tax and monthly expenses
2. Quality of life
3. Personal career prospect and that of other family members
4. Life in retirement

after all these...I still have someone that is in Australia for over 10 yrs ...the person seff is finding it hard to secure air ticket to come home with his family


How una dey take look some of us ...una think say we are daft ?

AmuDimpka:
after all these...I still have someone that is in Australia for over 10 yrs ...the person seff is finding it hard to secure air ticket to come home with his family


How una dey take look some of us ...una think say we are daft ?

Please don't be offended that I'm quoting you. I'm just curious. In Australia, a person above 21 earning minimum wage has a take home of approximately $3K per month (I mean net pay). Let's assume that this your person earns $3K and his wife also earns $3K, that's a total of $6K for the family. How much is flight ticket to Nigeria that they cannot afford? Or are they both jobless?

VAPatrick:


Please don't be offended that I'm quoting you. I'm just curious. In Australia, a person above 21 earning minimum wage has a take home of approximately $3K per month (I mean net pay). Let's assume that this your person earns $3K and his wife also earns $3K, that's a total of $6K for the family. How much is flight ticket to Nigeria that they cannot afford? Or are they both jobless?

Probably the person has no right to work in Australia but I don't see how that's possible since Australia doesn't accept refugees.

AmuDimpka:
he can save 4 - 5 million monthly...dey play !

Abi you dey tell person wey no get people for Aussie

Well, ignorance is bliss ... At that age he should be planning retirement and not emigration to go and start life again

That's my own opinion and I think I have right to that

You get person for Australia no be say you de Australia. Me de Australia de tell you wetin de sub u de miscap. Well, I won't go any further. Whatever you think is ok

AmuDimpka:
after all these...I still have someone that is in Australia for over 10 yrs ...the person seff is finding it hard to secure air ticket to come home with his family
How una dey take look some of us ...una think say we are daft ?

This is an interesting tale for Nigerian immigrants who live in far-flung places. As they age, they should make plans regarding who they marry and where they will want to retire because travelling between a place like Australia and Nigeria is not feasible continuously compared to a Nigerian in, say, Germany or the UK.

So, one should be mindful of who he marries while in Australia, how many children they have and where exactly they wish to retire vis-a-vis physical assets they will own.