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Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Melagros(m): 11:38pm On Mar 29 |
Acidosis:Which Reinhardt Bonkie are you talking about? All na arrangements, we took our niece suffering from down syndrome during his crusade in jos. After laying his hands on her, why wasn't she healed till she died? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:42pm On Mar 29 |
So sorry to hear your niece died. She would not have been paraded as healed as only those who have been verified as healed get to go on the stage. She wasn't made to jump around and wave her hands as an act of faith, broadcast to the world as healed and dumped the way CE does to the healing school patients. If she had hands laid on and it was broadcast as her being healed, do get in touch with them, I'm sure they will be more than willing to take down that video if it exist. Melagros: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Odidigboigbo(m): 12:21am On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19:I understand you better. But confession of faith and action of faith really works. I have used it in a couple of times and it has worked for me. |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:52am On Mar 30 |
I am a total believer in positive confessions which is very common in the word of Faith movement. They could have gotten them to jump around all throughout their stay at the healing school if they really believed in it. What these lot want is footage for their programmes which makes pastor Chris look like some superman. How to receive your healing was the name of that class if I remember. When pastor Chris touches you, you have to jump and celebrate and call it into being. That is gold footage to keep the madness scam going on. Most of you can't believe this because you could never do this to others. My response, Welcome to EARTH. Odidigboigbo: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Kobojunkie: 1:00am On Mar 30 |
Melagros:what killed her? |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by seunayantokun(m): 2:25am On Mar 30 |
JooEeL: I simply expressed my faith but you jumped over the fence to tag it fake. It gladdens my heart that you've kept condemning yourself in this matter. Talking about foreign religions and mental slavery is none of my business. I hold on to my faith in the Son of God, the Mighty Maker of heaven and earth, and all visible and invisible things, whose name or identity is so much revealed in the Bible. I have come to believe in His infinite power to save from sin and heal. I have journeyed through life until now under the care of Him Who made all planets and all that are in them for His pleasure and our benefits, and have no doubt that, as I move on in the direction of my finishing line, He is able to keep to the uttermost my soul which I have entrusted with Him. No white man gave me that but my personal encounter with Jesus Christ did. Do you want to say it is fake again? |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Cujo007: 3:38am On Mar 30 |
Very possible. Besides, our system in 9ja supports it. Hunger, poverty, corruption, injustice, lack of accountability are the perfect fertile grounds for these so-called "miracles" to thrive. Put in a bit of theatrics and voila! Who doesn't love a good show? FOOTSOLDIER2: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Babinski: 4:10am On Mar 30 |
Basic123: You are a liar from the pit of Hell whom God will judge for attempting to mislead people. How can you be so brazen to seek to manipulate the scriptures to support your falsehood? Did you not bother to read from Romans 3: 1 - 8 to see clarity or you were simply more interested in picking a verse out of context to further your evil agenda? I have reproduced below Romans 3: 7-8 which alone shows a proper context that dispute your lies. 7 Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just! https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3&version=NIV |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by olson(m): 7:22am On Mar 30 |
Basic123: Romans 3:7-8 NIV [7] Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” [8] Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just! https://bible.com/bible/111/rom.3.7.NIV Stop misleading people. That's the whole verse. Paul is not trying to expand the kingdom of God through falsehood but condemning people who are trying to justify falsehood to say they are trying to expand the kingdom of God. |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Basic123: 7:23am On Mar 30 |
olson:Explain that verse! And don't be surprised...that is what most FAKE FAITH HEALERS RELY ON! They beleive they will not crucified as long as people believe in God power is entrenched through lies |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Acidosis(m): 8:01am On Mar 30 |
Melagros: Everything in life na arrangement, my brother. Even a surgical procedure na arrangement. Some make it out of the theatre while others don't. God arranges things the way he pleases. I'm 100% sure that not everyone who attended the programme I went to in Okene, Kogi state in 2003 received what they came for. God does what He pleases, when He pleases, how He pleases, and uses whom He pleases for reasons best known by Him. All na arrangements. By the way, I'm sorry about the passing of your niece. Questioning God about why your niece had to die is akin to asking Reinhard Bonnke himself why he underwent femur surgery or why he passed away at the age of 70+. So, you see, he was merely an instrument in the hands of the ultimate arranger. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Babinski: 11:04am On Mar 30 |
Melagros: I have witnessed true healing at a Reinhard Bonnke crusade, so I have no doubts about his genuineness as a Man of God. Now it is important for you to understand some points: 1. It is God that does healing and not man. And in this regard I talk about genuine Christian miracles and not the works of sorcerers and their apprentices. 2. The Man of God can pray or lay hands of people and they may be healed. Note that the healing is done by God and at His discretion. Just like when a Man of God preaches, the conviction for salvation that is the winning of soul is done by the Holy Spirit. 3. A Man of God is in the business of preaching, winning souls and discipling them. Signs and Wonders or Miracles are only to accompany him and assist him in doing his primary assignment successfully. 4. God is not a Babalawo, Healer or Hospital whose primary duty is solving your problems or healing you of physical illness or deformities. When you go to Babalawo, Healers and Hospitals, they are not interested in your sins, your faith or the salvation of your soul. What they do is attempt to heal you and get paid for the service. That is not God and that is not how His miracles work. Come to God for the salvation of your souls and with faith in Him as the Almighty God which is more.important than any physical healing. He can and may heal you of infirmities but even when He chooses to delay or not heal you of them, He provides grace that overshadow the infirmities. That is why Paul in 2 Corinthians 12:8-9 said: 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. A true Ma of God knows he is not the one doing the healings and when he prays and lays hands and God does not heal you, he does not go about faking it. He submits to God and God may or may not sow him why the healing did not take place. That is why it is easy for Elisha the mighty Man of God to say regarding the Shunammite woman when she held his feet and Gehazi wanted to push her away in 2 Kings 4:27: “Leave her alone! She is in bitter distress, but the Lord has hidden it from me and has not told me why.”. Mind you this is the same Elisha with double the anointing of Elijah and through whom God raised the dead. The long and short of it is that if Bonnke laid hands on your niece and she was not healed, it is God that chose not to heal her for reasons best known to Him. And Bonnke will not throw any theatrics, try to fake it or persuade you with any manipulation as if to defend his inability to heal her because he knows he is just a conduit. That is one of the hallmarks of a genuine Man of God. |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 11:23am On Mar 30 |
ednut1:If he heals them, you would still have a reason to doubt his miracles. Both Cobhams and aiyefele are probably comfortable with their situation that's why they haven't visited his church yet. One day if they decide to visit, they'll be made new if they believe. These things are real and they work on faith and believing |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by honeyB2018: 11:37am On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19:But you didn't state what they did to you wrong after this long epistle, Can we hear it? |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:39am On Mar 30 |
Read this article I wrote on page 9 and that of sir John in 2008 that details events at the healing school. These are first had reports of people at the healing school and many are now coming out to say it's a scam. Hundreds can verify that it's a scam. Watch these pastor Chris videos with this knowledge in mind. The two videos below https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8#129081350 https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s I have asked questions here and not single Christ embassy member can give answers. I'll ask them once again For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again. Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed? Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern? Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely? Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting? Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc? Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc? If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place? Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers? How many percent do you think were healed? How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched? Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of? Why can't he minister in a country without a huge Christ embassy audience. Jesus said go into the world, not countries that have your moulded audience to preach. Why has it taken Christ Embassy members days to come back with any answers? As I said, only a handful of people on earth have access to the healing school. Peter popoff pulled off similar stunts, find video here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKXRVScOwE?si=IZv6MiqtAmfMsP7A FatherCHRISTMAS: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:48am On Mar 30 |
You didn't read the article? Go back and read of how no one is healed and how they are scammed into jumping around. Keep reading there are about 4 or five of those long writeups below.. honeyB2018: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 11:49am On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19: It took me some time and I have watched them as you requested. They don't look sad or dejected But I what If it's just coincidence and the way you see it, isn't the way it really is. Although everything fits |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:55am On Mar 30 |
I'm not the only one saying no one was healed. In my set eventually they barred all the healing school students from evening coming close to the venue. People were depressed, sad and crying. Some were threatening to expose it all.. Once you read the long article on page 9, understand what is happening then you'll know this man is a scam. I have worked for the highest of ministries on earth, the ones you guys buy their books from. I can comfortable resign my job in the global ministry I'm in and by two days time I'll be employed by any one of the top five global ministries on earth within the Texas Bible belt region of the states which is where the major ministries always have their offices. I've worked with all sorts of churches so I'm able to spot a scam than your average Joe .someone should make a call out to all the participants at this last healing stream session and you'll hear the same story. For CE'S team, you're dealing with someone who understands church media ministries at the highest levels, your time of scamming the sick is coming to an end. Your time of purging is now. FatherCHRISTMAS: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 11:59am On Mar 30 |
You just modified your statement which shows deceit which isn't from a good God..here is your original statement below. FatherCHRISTMAS: 1 Like
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Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by AngelicBeing: 12:00pm On Mar 30 |
Acidosis:intelligent response, l like the way you used the word "ARRANGEMENT " , even to be alive na arrangement, several semen swarm into the womb to be fertilized but only one is divinely ARRANGED to make it, all others died/ unfertilized during the process , so for Acidosis or anyone on Earth to be alive today is by divine ARRANGEMENT |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:01pm On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19: Hello I did had a good reason why I modified my post to remove that sentence. That doesn't mean any level of deceit rather, I reevaluated my conclusion. Which is fine by me |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by AngelicBeing: 12:05pm On Mar 30 |
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Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:09pm On Mar 30 |
It shows clear deceit or a confused mind which isn't what God gives his children. Mature spiritually, take a stand and run with it till the end. Don't be like the double minded man the book of James 1 speaks about, rather Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong according to 1 cor 16:13. In other words Paul was quoting the Philistines who went in faith to attack the Israelites on one occasion. “Be strong, and quit yourselves like men, O ye Philistines, that ye be not servants unto the Hebrews, as they have been to you: quit yourselves like men, and fight . 1 sam.4:16 It was a do or die affair, they had made up their minds, stuck to their resolve and obtained a victory when Israel walked in disobedience. It's a resolve to being steadfast.. I Samuel 4:6-10 NKJV [6] Now when the Philistines heard the noise of the shout, they said, “What does the sound of this great shout in the camp of the Hebrews mean?” Then they understood that the ark of the Lord had come into the camp. [7] So the Philistines were afraid, for they said, “God has come into the camp!” And they said, “Woe to us! For such a thing has never happened before. [8] Woe to us! Who will deliver us from the hand of these mighty gods? These are the gods who struck the Egyptians with all the plagues in the wilderness. [9] Be strong and conduct yourselves like men, you Philistines, that you do not become servants of the Hebrews, as they have been to you. Conduct yourselves like men, and fight!” [10] So the Philistines fought, and Israel was defeated, and every man fled to his tent. There was a very great slaughter, and there fell of Israel thirty thousand foot soldiers. These are your two comments to show deceit.. FatherCHRISTMAS:
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Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:10pm On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19: It's good to ask questions and raise awareness when something doesn't seem to conform to Christ's standards. I believe you are on a good course but you need to be able to prove beyond reasonable doubts these deliverance aren't genuine. It takes alot of guts to hire over 9 people to pull of a drama and expect them not to tell their friends and families about it. Can you really prove these things beyond reasonable doubt? Apart from these videos? Can you provide the people who were healed? Know also that a man can lose his healing if he goes back to his old ways. Let's say a cripple was healed, he can become crippled again if he goes back to his old ways or don't pray enough. |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 12:15pm On Mar 30 |
Read my article for crying out loud. They aren't hired, they are being fooled based on what they are told to do to receive their healings.. that is why all the celebrations at the healing school are virtually the same. Read page 9 of this thread, the very long writeups, you'll find about 5 of them on the same page. Read, read and read.. here is the link I asked CE members questions and not one of them with their so called wisdom of the spirit can give an answer.. I am a first hand participant of the healing school, sent there for weeks and it is a sad place once it's over. Participants are literally barred once they get the footage they need to fool the crowd. Read that article. The reason folks think they are healed is because if the following. Pastor Chris came in, he laid hands on them and they all start jumping round celebrating. I covered why they celebrate the way they do. Not one single person was healed amongst those who got of the wheelchairs t the last meeting. If you can't get off a wheelchair, you can never meet pastor Chris oyakhilome, Rev Tom ,Eddy useless Owase, pastor Shola, pastor dele and Deaconess Gbadamosi all ensure of this. They used to be there back in the days. https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8 It starts off with sadly I too was a victim of Christ embassy's healing school. Keep reading.. FatherCHRISTMAS: |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:19pm On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19: I don't know the people who wrote the Bible and neither are we families. The Bible was composed based on oral sources. This is 2024, I chose to follow what I deem fit in the biblical tradition. I WILL NOT be compelled to follow a certain verse that does not fit my own narrative which you have quoted (1 cor 16:13). I can change my mind as many times as possible. Even God changes his mind on his conclusions (Exodus 32:14), so why shouldn't I? |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:22pm On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19: OK now I understand better |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:25pm On Mar 30 |
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Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by ednut1(m): 12:46pm On Mar 30 |
FatherCHRISTMAS:ayefele has gone to tb Joshua, oyedepo and rccg. You are saying a man prefers to be wheel chair bound over walking. You must be 🤐 https://www.mediaroomhub.com/yinka-ayefele-opens-up-on-t-b-joshua/ |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 1:50pm On Mar 30 |
Truthfullone19:wow |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Truthfullone19: 2:33pm On Mar 30 |
Not a single reply from CE members on this thread. Specific questions were asked and not one of them with the so called wisdom of the spirit can answer this. When you defend the cross and its work, the spirit will come in full force to give you words to speak. When you defend man, you're wasting your time. The Bible says even the Pharisees marvelled as such wisdom that came from Christ. Amongst believers and unbelievers, not one CE member has been able to say a thing that radiates with the wisdom of Christ regarding these accusations. Can one of you get pastor Joe who used to be in Christ embassy Bayelsa on this thread. SirJohn used to sort him out in the days. For those of you who are new in the loop. Read sir John's thread here https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school And I wrote I long similar write-up on page 9 of this thread. https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8. Go through this thread and you'll how this man has fooled the world like Peter popoff did for years. He cannot preach outside a Christ embassy setting as he needs the scene and full cooperation from folks to pull off his stunt. Read comments, loads of those at the healing school have been screaming for justice, whilst his brainwashed followers rant about bitterness I will also be putting this as a separate topic on Nairaland soon. The time of oppressing people who are hungry for the Lord, sick and desperate is over. We don't need to lie on God's behalf to improve his image. Satan is and always will be the father of lies. If you remove these extra tricks, sorry but this man is no different from any average pastor in Nigeria, still believing that one day he will be used like pastor Chris etc. |
Re: Pastor Chris 'Heals' Nine People On Stretchers (Video) by Tonitoniton(m): 5:43pm On Mar 30 |
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