Usefulsense:


Australia really humbled me. Imagine a financial controller in Nigeria now picking and packing cartons in warehouses in Australia.

There is dignity in labour inasmuch as you do what you're supposed to do and as long as it fetches you your daily bread.

I remember my advice to you then, if a 69 year old can still be a janitor, what is the big deal? I work two jobs now, one full-time and the other relief. It was a rough start but now, I am consolidating. Continue to push, look at your schedule and see what more you can accommodate to make more money. But importantly, self care is key. If I am not on rotation and did not take a shift at my other job, I am in my house resting. I now have a car to make my commute easy, it beats taking the transit system by miles although it comes with it's own cost. But that is the reason I have the relief job, it covers insurance and gas and still leaves a few dollars for groceries.

Abeg! Don't bite more than you can chew. One step at a time, and you'll get there. This is not the time to start looking for friends and business partners from anywhere in the world, face your job and keep your money well. There are wolves out there. I wish you and your family the best.

Gerrard59:
cc: IbeOkehie

Well done OP. I applaud your determination, perseverance and, most importantly your honesty. You try because if na me at that age, I won't migrate to anywhere. There has to be a time in a man's life he enjoys the reward for his hard work. Nevertheless, well done.



The bold would be criticised by Nairalanders, rightfully so, so get prepared.

Generally, developed countries are safer and law abiding. In fact, some developing countries are also pretty safe because of their demographics and could be safer as they become prosperous. Factors which are the bedrock of law abiding societies with high HDIndcies are:

- Democracy
- Free markets which result in economic prosperity
- Property Rights
- Ethnic or racial or religious dominance by a group or groups. This is the most important factor in assessing how safe a society is regardless of how prosperous it might be. Some ethnic or racial or religious groups have belligerent characteristics.

Reading your response reassures me there are still people of depth in nigeria irrespective. I've practically been retired since the age of 38. I still work very passively and earn just enough income as well from modest assets. This was what I've always wanted from my childhood since the days of my reading rich dad. Nigeria is disappointing, yes, but I can't for the life of me, imagine migrating only to go doing physical labour in my forties for whatever pay unless ofcourse if there's a war in nigeria.

People, always follow your intuition. Think of what truely matters to you in life. It's not always about better pay or civilization. I for one don't like civilization as we know it today, and I'm not alone in feeling this way judging by what I see everyday. Many in civilised societies are unhappy and are seeking refuge offgrid away from their so-called civilization.

Usefulsense:


For me measure of progress is different.
A toilet cleaner in Australia lives a much better life than the regional manager of Zenith bank in Nigeria.

that's the advantage of adding value to the system over just chasing money. We chase money in Nigeria unlike advanced minds who create so much value, everyone (virtually) can afford basic valuable things.

People judging and analyzing another person's personal decision about his life.


Lol, some of you are lucky to come from a well to do home....you can never understand the struggle to have a better life.

Princedapace:

Omo, when I see the wahala people go thru in the name of this JAPA, i just know that it cant be me. I just want to love the freedom tech gives me. Na so my guy moved to the UK for the past 3 years now, he has been working in a warehouse, very stressful job, works multiple night shifts daily. Infact, he laments badly. For those who can do such stress, I wish them the best. I cant. Na why i switched to tech since. I can even sleep and wake up and decide to drive out and rest when I want to.
I mean, god bless tech. If I decide to move out today, i can and will not need to do all these wahala. Imagine all the wahala he had to do just to settle in Australia for life wey we all go still die las las
Tech remains the best choice I made. Writing codes is fun and building real apps are amazing. And no body go ask me to work for warehouse or do night shifts or do multiple jobs to pay bills.
A friend wey dey UK, another one, where she works, they dont allow them use phones. She always kind of sneak to use her phone. Oh lord, it cant be me. I cant

People do not know the power tech holds, and the capabilities it could unleash.

I was just offered a job of 800 GBP per day in the UK from the country I currently reside and I still rejected it, despite the fact that I will be working remotely as a senior software developer cum software architect.

Sadly, like I earlier stated, AI will take over all these menial jobs and office jobs people still do. This is the time to look in the direction of tech, if you can, to be relevant in the tsunami era that is coming. I understand not everyone can do tech, but if you can, do not hesitate please. It will hit a lot of people like an horror movie what is about to happen and western nations are so vulnerable.

The lawlessness in Nigeria is a major problem here because a lawless country is a chaotic one.

Many other ills of this country are due to the lawlessness. From manipulation and outright boycotting of electoral laws which makes way for people of zero integrity and character to occupy leadership positions, to manipulation of all the other laws we have in Nigeria.

Nigerians are good at writing fantastic laws but enforcing those laws becomes a problem since those who are meant to enforce them are easily compromised so that they are not able to carry out their jobs. It is a terrible situation!

If we want to fix things in this country, then we should start with ensuring strict enforcement of the various laws in this nation. Every other thing would be in order once the rule of law is strictly adhered to. Anybody who goes against the law should be punished accordingly no matter how highly placed the person may be. From the PRESIDENT down to the lowest person in the country should strictly be under the law. If we can achieve this, things would change greatly in this country. Let's stop paying lip service to the laws!

Nigeria would have been one of the best places anyone would like to live in but we're not just doing the right thing.

Our politicians and every other person should have the consciousness that the best gift they can leave for their present and future generations is to build a better and ordered Nigeria for them to inherit. It is far much better than keeping money and properties for them. Imagine a situation where you saved billions of naira in a bank for your children and future generations in this lawless country and in the future the money loses its value due to wrong policies made by some unqualified person who got fraudulently chosen to be the president.

Another case scenario is a situation where the monies you saved for your unborn generations remained intact but the people you saved the money for got killed by some bandits due to insecurity in Nigeria. You may argue that you wouldn't have those children of yours live in Nigeria, but what if they're in another country and war breaks out in those countries or a major natural disaster happens leading to their deaths! So you see, it is far far much better for us to stop selfishly stacking money and properties with the hope that our children and unborn children would not suffer in poverty.

Instead, we should endeavor to bequeath a better and prosperous country to our unborn generations so that they'll live a good life and be proud of the country and us when we must have gone.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

height of inferiority complex. Your kids are speaking through their nose so it means they're doing well?? Disgusting

Awakened38:


Reading your responds reassures me there are still people of substance in nigeria irrespective. I've practically been retired since the age of 38. I still work passively and earn income from it and other sources. This was what I've always wanted from my childhood since the days of my reading rich dad. Nigeria is disappointing, but I can't for the life of me, imagine migrating only to go doing physical labour in my forties for whatever pay unless ofcourse if there's a war in nigeria.

People, always follow your intuition. Think of what truely matters to you in life. It's not always about better pay or civilization. I for one don't like civilization as we know it today, and I'm not alone in feeling this way judging by what I see everyday. Many in civilised societies are unhappy and are seeking refuge offgrid away from their so-called civilization.

you always try to be smart but it's obvious you are not.......if I have this kind of mentality of yours, I would have unfollowed this thread long ago...... always looking for wetin no lost.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

. Don't waste our time with your stories. You wanted to travel and God made it possible . You don't need any advice after you have decided..Good luck to you there.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

Congratulations. I am really interested in causes of divorce over there and I would be happy to read more from you on that.

CodeTemplar:
that's the advantage of adding value to the system over just chasing money. We chase money in Nigeria unlike advanced minds who create so much value, everyone (virtually) can afford basic valuable things.

Don't tell me you believe what the op stated that a cleaner in Australia lives a better life than a regional manager in Zenith bank.

That's totally hogwash my friend

chidi4sam:


You get person for Australia no be say you de Australia. Me de Australia de tell you wetin de sub u de miscap. Well, I won't go any further. Whatever you think is ok

. Hello Chidi, if I enter any of the Shengen countries with a tourist visa, can I work with it? What must I do to convert the visa or be able to work?

Bigboytinz:
height of inferiority complex. Your kids are speaking through their nose so it means they're doing well?? Disgusting

can you just let him be......did he force you to read or migrate.

In any ecosystem system, migration is something that is a must. People and animals migrate for different reasons.

EleventhWeirdo:
@Usefulsense

If you had ACCA from Nigeria, I believe your experience with accounting job hunting in Australia would be different. Its hard to imagine an FCA of our noble ICAN packing trash in Australia. ICAN needs to do more in terms of bilateral cooperations with other professional bodies. You would have been able to practice with your FCA in England, I believe

Sir, I am not packing trash in Australia. I work in the warehouse. I make in a week my gross in a month in Nigeria. After the monthly expenses, I have 1,600 Australian dollars left in a month. This is more than my monthly gross.

If I had known, before coming to Australia, I would have obtained membership of ANAN.
If I had ANAN, I would have been a member of CPA Australia. They recognise ANAN. They don't know ICAN.

Congratulations sir You done enter heaven like this we still dey hell but I pray God go help me join you

E no concerns us, you never moves to HEAVEN or you never MAKES HEAVEN... SO, WE are not EVEN... If here is ur haven... Haven is DIFFERENT FROM HEAVEN, WHERE WE HAVE OVEN FOR THOSE WHO WE ARE NOT EVEN AND INTERWOVEN... OUR OVEN IS MORE THAN ELEVEN, you would begins to SEE ELEVEN HEAVEN OR ELEVENTH HEAVEN FROM INSIDE OUR OVEN; IF OR SINCE WE ARE NOT EVEN OR INTERWOVEN... DID WE HAVE ELEVEN HEAVEN OR SEVEN HEAVEN...? WE HAVE SEVEN ELEVEN HEAVEN... DID you remembers nine eleven..? 911... Did you wants to call nine eleven or nine one one...? What is the difference between nine eleven and nine one one...?... I mean, one on one... Let's go one on one... One versus one...

seborrhic:

The three months is the shocking part.
If he is correct and truthful,then he had well laid out plans and is lucky.
I am just imagining someone going to a new country and already started doing well at 3months.Shelter,kids already in school,fees settled,got a job already and saving.
Thats quite an enormous achievement

I sent my wife here in December 2021.
The original plan was for the family to move together but on a second thought I said no.

She worked really hard and I supported her the much I can from Nigeria.

It was much easier for me because I had my partner here already.

There's nothing you can't achieve at anytime if you put your mind at it

My misgivings on this story center on the anonymity. Anyone can wake up and write anything.

1 million naira per month in Nigeria is good, but when assessed against the totality of life in a global market, it's cheap. It's 800 USD

Nigeria is the Poverty Capital of the World. Those who enjoy experiencing or observing poverty will love living in Nigeria.

Good Luck to Nigeria

MT:


Don't tell me you believe what the op stated that a cleaner in Australia lives a better life than a regional manager in Zenith bank.

That's totally hogwash my friend

a cleaner who cleans well enough can live better than those managers in branches.

Usefulsense:
Last year, I sought the opinion of Nairalanders concerning my plan to move to Australia.
My major worry was my age (48) and also considering that my net salary in Nigeria was a little over a million Naira per month as the financial controller of a manufacturing company in Onitsha.

Below is the link to the thread I opened to seek peoples advice and I recommend that you go through the thread to fully appreciate
the story that follows.

[url=https://www.nairaland.com/7825207/japa-confused-please-advise][/url]. I promised to tell my story after 3 months of my stay in Australia.

I finally left Nigeria on December 7th, 2023 and arrived the country on December 9th with my children. Today, I am exactly 3 months, 2 weeks and 6 days old in Sydney, australia.

This is not a hearsay, it is not an eye witness account, it is my story.

This is intended to guide people who maybe planning to travel outside Nigeria. Should you migrate at an age over 45 or not?

Those who told me not to go are right and those who told me to travel are also right.

Given another opportunity, will I take the decision to move out of Nigeria at 48? Have I made a mistake? How am I surviving?

You will find out in this thread.

To be continued shortly .........

God bless you for sharing your story.

We have a lot of moronic paid government agents like frestuffng and mannabbq on nl spreading propaganda to deceive people that all is well. Meanwhile nothing is alright with Nigeria at all.

Year in year out massive brain drain. Remaining labour force in Nigeria is disillusioned and depressed, looking for any opportunity to leave cos the country is so useless.

Those left behind cannot fight.

It will get to a point where only criminals and the political class will be left behind in Nigeria. At that point the criminals will turn on the ruling political class. It'll birth Robinhood persona and they'll start assassinating members of the political class on a large scale. This is what will cleanse Nigeria of nonsense leaders. Either that or the north will gradually take over the country and Islamise Nigeria and cleans the country of filth

TheBillyonaire:





Yes it is very humbling my brother. I can not imagine a man at almost 50 years decelerating from being a Boss to a Boy Boy for Oyibos. In exchange for clean 247 electricity and security. Definitely, they are better organized than us, right?

But it depends on where you lived in Nigeria. You mentioned being an Igbo man, so it could be that your city is not properly organized as opposed to other places with serene air and cleaner environments.

Alternatively, working as a warehouse handy-man is boy boy in your language. But congratulations for promoting yourself from big man to boy boy.

I promise you that we will build Nigeria, so your children can have a better place to return to, and hopefully you will be visiting often and not when you are too weak to be useful to Nigeria.

Buhari talk pass u, he left it more degraded and rotten.

Which cement u wan use build Nigeria?

Usefulsense:


Sir, I am not packing trash in Australia. I work in the warehouse. I make in a week my gross in a month in Nigeria. After the monthly expenses, I have 1,600 Australian dollars left in a month. This is more than my monthly gross.

If I had known, before coming to Australia, I would have obtained membership of ANAN.
If I had ANAN, I would have been a member of CPA Australia. They recognise ANAN. They don't know ICAN.

OP......I have been a passionate member of this travel section.

There a people like this on every travel section/thread .

People who are single are old age.
Wicked people
Bitter people
Envious people
People who lack parental love.

The list goes on.

Please stop replying all of them..... just focus on your beautiful thread and continue.

It's only a f0ol that would expect the first phase of japa to be rosy.....a significant percentage of people (not school route)started with menial jobs.

FireUpNow:
Congrats man. I am so happy for you ooo. A 50 -69 years old man is still a young man. Have you seen a Kangaroo? I love that animal when they fight.

I actually saw three near my street the day my family went for early morning jogging.

The first time I'm seeing kangaroos.

They will decimate your thread.....ignore them.

boxypane:

Nice moments indeed. Pls how much do I need to move to Australia?

Depending on the route. We came on student visa. It actually cost the whole family a lot.

With the current exchange rate, its going to cost more

MT:


People do not know the power tech holds, and the capabilities it could unleash.

I was just offered a job of 800 GBP per day in the UK from the country I currently reside and I still rejected it, despite the fact that I will be working remotely as a senior software developer cum software architect.

Sadly, like I earlier stated, AI will take over all these menial jobs and office jobs people still do. This is the time to look in the direction of tech, if you can, to be relevant in the tsunami era that is coming. I understand not everyone can do tech, but if you can, do not hesitate please. It will hit a lot of people like an horror movie what is about to happen and western nations are so vulnerable.

Tech isn't for every brain. It's for those gifted in that area. It's like saying everyone must play an instrument or be an artist

austin2023:
Did you learn their language, before you started working as a forklift operator?

Australia is an English speaking country.

poiZon:

Buhari talk pass u, he left it more degraded and rotten.

Which cement u wan use build Nigeria?

no mind dem.

EreluRoz:
A 48yr old man is still young, so nothing do you.

My own classification of old man is 70 and above and besides I know a man who only starts seeing money at 50, he should be in his early 60s now and now multi millionaire if not a billionaire.

In the olden days people starts making money or become rich from 45-50 years and above, but today due to some fast lane Money making kids of under 17 are seeing millions. A 45 years old man is still a young man as you rightly said. Most of them are still not married or eating mama thank you

AmuDimpka:
that dude isn't telling the truth truth me...he wants validation ..give it to him

Bro. My wife was here for two years before I joined her.

So it was very easy for me. I even started looking for job from Nigeria.