Ibime:


He will be marking Disasi, tall man to tall man. It's for the short men to close stuff outside the box

There are enough tall men to mark Disasi like Maguire. But when everyone dey jonze and point. Someone has to take up the dirty job like Gabriel did yesterday

raumdeuter:


There are enough tall men to mark Disasi like Maguire. But when everyone dey jonze and point. Someone has to take up the dirty job

True that's why there was so much space for palmer to shoot for goal.

raumdeuter:


There are enough tall men to mark Disasi like Maguire. But when everyone dey jonze and point. Someone has to take up the dirty job like Gabriel did yesterday

Maguire plays the same position as Gabriel so he will be where Maguire is. You don't see centrebacks running outside the box when defending corner, they mark opposition centrebacks or striker according to their height. Na short men dey stationed outside box

Griffon:


Give this man a trophy.

You forgot this is agendaland where everyone got an opinion on football matters 😂😂😂

Ibime:


Maguire plays the same position as Gabriel so he will be where Maguire is. You don't see centrebacks running outside the box when defending corner, they mark opposition centrebacks or striker according to their height. Na short men dey stationed outside box

Someone is faking your handle with ibeme,l don't know if it's you?

Ibeme:
Sorry Caicedo fans, your boy is a poor DM

same opinion

Ibime:


Maguire plays the same position as Gabriel so he will be where Maguire is. You don't see centrebacks running outside the box when defending corner, they mark opposition centrebacks or striker according to their height. Na short men dey stationed outside box

In that situation all the short men were asleep or pointing. While Palmer was free and had time and space to sit down light cigar open beer before deciding what to do. Gabriel won't join them in pointing when 4 pointers already

Vischy:


Wtf,Chelsea thread must be the funniest thread on nairaland😂😂😂😂😂

Abi how person wan take explain?

How can a defender be so naive?

Na to just dey fall upandan as if pitch na Shiloh deliverance centre

Did Messi even do anything special here?

I repeat - Boathand is one of the worst defenders in the history of the game.

Isaac Semitoje wasn't this bad tbh

Vischy:


Someone is faking your handle with ibeme,l don't know if it's you?

It's me

AdisaOwala:


Abi how person wan take explain?

How can a defender be so naive?

Na to just dey fall upandan as if pitch na Shiloh deliverance centre

Did Messi even do anything special here?

I repeat - Boathand is one of the worst defenders in the history of the game.

Isaac Semitoje wasn't

Was Vidic at Prayer city that's making him fall under anointing

What special thing did Lucas Moura do here that's making the best defender in EPL history to hug grass

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Vischy:


You forgot this is agendaland where everyone got an opinion on football matters 😂😂😂

FR the conclusion of that argument is encapsulated in his submission.

There’s no one dimensional way to defend, rather you stick to what works for you. Some CBs are great when it comes to going toe to toe with a forward, while some are great at cutting off supply to the forward, like you have to literally watch as they step up and intercept a pass that was directed to you.

VVD’s style is more of ball reading. The time he takes to drift backwards, is simply him buying time to decide when is perfect to make that timely interception, block or even a tackle. It’s not a bad approach. John Terry was effective with same approach and excelled at it and this was largely because he lacked pace, so couldn’t charge forward.

Everyone must not charge forward, unless you’re playing in a system that demands such.

Abeg... who know where the defender wey we buy from Barcelona that year dey? I hear say the boy na the second coming of Maldini, Cavalho and Co. Why no news about the boy called Mbuyamba?

Meanwhile, thunder go continue to fire Tuchel for that fraud wey him buy from Leicester for £70mil. Him managerial career must to follow the ways of that professional football doctor.

Financial advice of the day

Stake your life savings on Manchester United to win Liverpool at 4:85 odds and thank me later

Cheers

I love how city and Arsenal fans are putting hope in us to take points of Liverpool. Nor be only United fans go dey disappointed today 😂

raumdeuter:


I mean if Gabriel was in that Man utd defense where everyone was pointing

What will he do

Except he's near Palmer then yea.
But Gabriel would not leave his CB position to start racing out of the box to tackle Palmer, he'll certainly point

andrewbaba44:
Financial advice of the day

Stake your life savings on Manchester United to win Liverpool at 4:85 odds and thank me later

Cheers

Which other life savings you want make person stake when everything don burn on Chelsea Vs Man U??

Trevor012:
I love how city and Arsenal fans are putting hope in us to take points of Liverpool. Nor be only United fans go dey disappointed today 😂

raumdeuter:


Effectiveness in that these great defenders do the work themselves and throw themselves into tackles

Or effectiveness in pointing others to do the work and you flee from the hardwork.

VVD all through his career has been known to run away from dangerous situations while pushing others to do it for him because he knows once he attempts he fails

We saw how in the CL final he was trying to avoid Valverde until that one disgraced him

You are claiming 2018 to 2021 when it was in October 2020 he was getting disgraced by Aston Villa and they lost 7-2 in one game

The results at Liverpool is as a result of Klopps style where he presses high neutralized all attacks and the defence mops up. When it gets to dangerous 1v1 situation it's Konate and Matip who go for those while VVD points. I have seen Klopp for over 15yrs and he achieved the same thing with below average defenders like Hummels Matip and Subotic

VVD is a product of hype. We saw how he avoided Sissoko who shot off target and was hailed for making Sisoko shoot off target, when you start seeing intangibles like leadership, communication used to praise a defender know that he is just forming activity

Everyone who has played ball before would have encountered one defender thatbwill benforming seniorman for field wey no fit play and whose job will be to shout and point to others to do their jobs

Boateng cannot be in VVD level when Boateng won 2 trebles and a world cup. He won a CL and world cup by age 25 as a starter in those defence. What has VVD done close to that at his current age?

Pointing will always show up in big games when everyone is busy doing work and marking opponents and no one has time to be protecting a traffic warden defender. Similar to Thiago Silva

As much as I don't like John Terry, I can say he is not a pointing defender he does the hard work

Chief I beg to differ. In fact let VVD be Pontius Pilate using others to cover up, as long as it makes his team concede less and win trophies, then he is not hype. He has simply mastered the art of defensive coordination.

When his pointer wasnt working in 2022/2023 and he started being dribbled around frequently, Liverpool faltered massively. Now he has started to point again and Liverpool's getting the points as title favorites after winning yet another trophy. Is this a coincidence?

All great defenders have their embarrassing low moments. You've mentioned VVD's but dont forget Torres destroying Vidic at Old trafford in 2007, Walcott embarrassing Maldini, Henry turning Nesta in ridiculous circles in Euro 2000 final, Ik Uche destroying Cannavaro and of course Boateng's several shitty moments with Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo etc

Per VVD vs Boateng, no point (no pun intended). Kleberson, Edmilson them sef win World cup with Brazil in 2002 but you cannot even compare their defensive standing with Ferdinand, Thiago Silva & Vidic wey no get WC.

Didnt VVD almost singlehandedly dump out Bayern and Boateng with a goal and assist in 2019 UCL, pls show me one high profile match where Boateng was the undisputed boss of the day either for Germany or Bayern. I'm truly waiting to learn.

Jodera:
Except he's near Palmer then yea.
But Gabriel would not leave his CB position to start racing out of the box to tackle Palmer, he'll certainly point

Point when 4 others are all pointing

Ibime:


Maguire plays the same position as Gabriel so he will be where Maguire is. You don't see centrebacks running outside the box when defending corner, they mark opposition centrebacks or striker according to their height. Na short men dey stationed outside box

Thank you.
I don't know how Rau.mdeuter expect CB to start chasing player outside the box.

raumdeuter:


Point when 4 others are all pointing

That's the indiscipline I'm talking about.

In arsenal, Odegaard point, Jorginho point, Gabriel point and Rice point.

But you'll never see all four pointing at once. That's discipline

Jodera:

Which other life savings you want make person stake when everything don burn on Chelsea Vs Man U??

No be everybody play that one

Griffon:


FR the conclusion of that argument is encapsulated in his submission.

There’s no one dimensional way to defend, rather you stick to what works for you. Some CBs are great when it comes to going toe to toe with a forward, while some are great at cutting off supply to the forward, like you have to literally watch as they step up and intercept a pass that was directed to you.

VVD’s style is more of ball reading. The time he takes to drift backwards, is simply him buying time to decide when is perfect to make that timely interception, block or even a tackle. It’s not a bad approach. John Terry was effective with same approach and excelled at it and this was largely because he lacked pace, so couldn’t charge forward.

Everyone must not charge forward, unless you’re playing in a system that demands such.

💯💯

andrewbaba44:


No be everybody play that one

So the remaining ones wey no play am that day, you wan complete am for them today shey??

ThierryJay:
Chief I beg to differ. In fact let VVD be Pontius Pilate using others to cover up, as long as it makes his team concede less and win trophies, then he is not hype. He has simply mastered the art of defensive coordination.
When his pointer wasnt working in 2022/2023 and he started being dribbled around frequently, Liverpool faltered massively. Now he has started to point again and Liverpool's getting the points as title favorites after winning yet another trophy. Is this a coincidence?
Per VVD vs Boateng, no point (no pun intended). Kleberson, Edmilson them sef win World cup with Brazil in 2002 but you cannot even compare their defensive standing with Ferdinand, Thiago Silva & Vidic wey no get WC.
Didnt VVD almost singlehandedly dump out Bayern and Boateng with a goal and assist in 2019 UCL, pls show me one high profile match where Boateng was the undisputed boss of the day either for Germany or Bayern. I'm truly waiting to learn.

If he is pointing thats why he wont achieve things and win trophies that players like Boateng won in their career. How is Liverpool is doing good because their attack are delivering. Their defence concede regularly even against that decrepit man Utd in the FA cup they conceded 4 goals. The Liverpool midfield has been boosted so their defence gets less action than before not because of VVD pointing activities

Let Edmilson and Kleberson also win the treble and lets see how they fare

So Kovacs Bayern is VVD high point while Boateng will point to a world cup final the biggest game in football where he was undisputed boss of the day which VVD will never play because he points

Jodera:
That's the indiscipline I'm talking about.

In arsenal, Odegaard point, Jorginho point, Gabriel point and Rice point.

But you'll never see all four pointing at once. That's discipline

Now who is expected to do the blocking if they are all pointing. yesterday Gabriel didnt point he put his body on the line. That is what elite defenders who win big trophies do

raumdeuter:


Now who is expected to do the blocking if they are all pointing. yesterday Gabriel didnt point he put his body on the line. That is what elite defenders who win big trophies do

Was he the only one that blocked balls ystdy?

Should I bring you pictures of Van Dijk blocking shots?

raumdeuter:


If he is pointing thats why he wont achieve things and win trophies that players like Boateng won in their career. How is Liverpool is doing good because their attack are delivering. Their defence concede regularly even against that decrepit man Utd in the FA cup they conceded 4 goals. The Liverpool midfield has been boosted so their defence gets less action than before not because of VVD pointing activities

Let Edmilson and Kleberson also win the treble and lets see how they fare

So Kovacs Bayern is VVD high point while Boateng will point to a world cup final the biggest game in football where he was undisputed boss of the day which VVD will never play because he points

Baba, dead this treble talk - the Bundesliga is a worthless league that nobody takes seriously

Jodera:

Was he the only one that blocked balls ystdy?

Should I bring you pictures of Van Dijk blocking shots?

I am sure you can spot VVD from this image "blocking shot"

AdisaOwala:


Baba, dead this treble talk - the Bundesliga is a worthless league that nobody takes seriously

The CL is also useless thats why your team finished bottom of the table this season

Once upon a time Man utd fans used to celebrate and brag about winning treble, Nowadays they dont even know CL makes a treble

Ajax are getting violated real bad. Losing 5-0 to Feyernood, they're lucky that's as bad as it is rn cos Feyernood have missed six of the nine big chances created in just over an hour.

Oh, they also haven't registered a single attempt - on or off target.

raumdeuter:


If he is pointing thats why he wont achieve things and win trophies that players like Boateng won in their career. How is Liverpool is doing good because their attack are delivering. Their defence concede regularly even against that decrepit man Utd in the FA cup they conceded 4 goals. The Liverpool midfield has been boosted so their defence gets less action than before not because of VVD pointing activities

Let Edmilson and Kleberson also win the treble and lets see how they fare

So Kovacs Bayern is VVD high point while Boateng will point to a world cup final the biggest game in football where he was undisputed boss of the day which VVD will never play because he points

Strange, Boateng winning the MoM was due to lack of a stand out performer in both teams on that day. His saving grace was Higuain forgetting his shooting boots that match. I am talking of a memorable defensive masterclass, like:

: Puyol vs Germany WC 2010
: Ramos vs Atletico UCL final
: Gattuso vs Man Utd 2007
: Cannavaro vs Germany WC 2006
: Nesta vs Real Madrid 2003 group stage
: Ferdinand vs Liverpool 2006
: VVD vs Bayern 2019

It's not like AC Milan with prime Nesta and Maldini were not conceding goals at all. But they always gave the team's attackers the confidence to go on and win when it mattered.