bobestman:
All have their truths and wrongs but JW's lift themselves high in pride claiming to know it all even with their many wrongs. That is the problem

can you mention some of the truths that they have that JWs don't have?

Michael547:

I am waiting for him to answer first.

I'm their only JW customer on Nairaland it seems they're scared of new monikers that supports the teachings of JWs!

Questionnaires:


There's Alot of Sense in What You Wrote.

Now; How Does The JW Prefer And Advise We Run A Country Like Nigeria ?

Interestingly, Nigeria is not the only country in the world today. And Every country in the world has a problem that they are battling with.
The solution to making the world a better place where all humans can live peacefully in equality, peace and love without warfare, terrorism, hunger, sickness and death is exactly how Nigeria should be run.
But do you honestly think that human politicians today can achieve this?

Michael547:

Interestingly, Nigeria is not the only country in the world today. And Every country in the world has a problem that they are battling with.
The solution to making the world a better place where all humans can live peacefully in EQUALITY, peace and love without warfare, terrorism, hunger, sickness and death is exactly how Nigeria should be run.
But do you honestly think that human politicians today can achieve this?

I once told one man about the highlighted he said it's impossible but they want a president they appoint to be there without taking care of all his own immediate problems when he knows you're not ready for EQUALITY.

It's like having a big tuber of yam and a knife then we hand over the yam and the knife to someone but looking into our faces he noticed that we don't want it to be shared equally yet we're expecting him to do the sharing.

Ọmọ if he cut 80% to his side and drop the rest for everyone to share even God will never ever blame him because we're all in support of iniquity!

MaxInDHouse:


What do you mean by "Nigerian" ?

Is it people born, bread and brought up in Nigeria or people who pledge to serve Nigeria to be faithful loyal and honest to Nigeria and to serve Nigeria with love strength, faith and to defend her unity with everything they have?

Remember that there are many who have nationalized themselves as Nigerians while many who were born, bread and raised here in Nigeria have abandoned Nigeria never to return again.

So tell me my friend what do you mean by that word "Nigerian"?

Do you pledge to serve Nigeria with Your Faith, Loyalty And Honesty ?

Questionnaires:

Do you pledge to serve Nigeria with Your Faith, Loyalty And Honesty?

NO, because it's impossible!

The only system where such is possible is God's own system of things {Mark 12:30} where righteousness will dwell {Isaiah 32:16; 2Peter 3:13} there is no faith, loyalty and honesty in a system where everyone wants to serve Nigeria with all their strength but some will earn 30k while some are earning 70-80m monthly and they're both serving the same Nigeria.
Do you know why all the gods of the land kept quiet to all the atrocities committed on the land?
Well the system is built on dishonesty, nobody can serve wholeheartedly yet payments varies and the margin is extremely high even the gods will step aside watching.
No human ruler can make things better as long as the system remains this way because it promotes selfishness and greed.
So my friend i can't make such a pledge because my God will get upset with me if i do yet fail to live up to my pledge! Ecclesiastes 5:5

Michael547:

can you mention some of the truths that they have that JWs don't have?

Go and read what I said very well and understand what I meant. Your questions are meaningless

Michael547:

can you mention some of the truths that they have that JWs don't have?

Well i just ignored most of them because Jesus has already told us that there are two roads a broad road and another a narrow path, as for the broad way many are flocking through it to their death but only wise few noticed the narrow path that leads to everlasting life. Matthew 7:13-14

I never took Questionnaire seriously until the day i read his below comment:

Questionnaires:

MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

I felt really flattered but he's not the first to say such about me all glory and honour belongs to Jehovah who sent Jesus the most wonderful counselor as a teacher to teach us how to reason intelligently and wisely.

bobestman:
Go and read what I said very well and understand what I meant. Your questions are meaningless

Of course his straightforward questions will be meaningless to deceivers like you.
Aren't you the same person who always say all the groups claiming Christians are wrong?
So how come they're now right somehow and only Jehovah's Witnesses are not?

For your information we know you are all on the same page no matter your religion or beliefs if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you are part of those on the broad way which is CONFUSION. That's why you can't present any group practicing what you are saying!

bobestman:
Go and read what I said very well and understand what I meant. Your questions are meaningless

😁😁😁 You are very dishonest..... you've just been jumping up and down. Stay one place.
You claim that all other churches are right in places where the Jws are wrong.
Oya prove it na. Tell us How they are right. Automatically the question to prove it has become meaningless and you want me to take you seriously?

MaxInDHouse:

The funny thing about bobestman is that all the churches are wrong to him yet he wants to chuk mouth inside JW matter perhaps to join all other religions as if only JWs are wrong!

You are like someone who stock a fire and still complain of being burnt. Or a kettle who claims to be better than all kettles but forgets they are all black. When I speak against religion, I speak against all of you. I don't take sides. What I speak against are the many errors in your religions and even expose them with bible refs to show they are wrong. I always say what matters is your righteousness not religion. I never come for you cos you are the only one bad but cos YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT EXALT YOURSELVES ABOVE OTHERS WHICH IS PRIDE AND BIGOTRY. When your light shine, it is ppl that will glorify you not yourself. Your wrong teachings are many and ppl can easily see but pride....

Michael547:

can you mention some of the truths that they have that JWs don't have?

JWs don't have the truth of Holy Spirit not a person.

Jws don't have the truth of Speaking in Tongues.

Jws don't have the truth of God miracles in present day.

Can you tell us the truth that Jws has that others don't have?

bobestman:
You are like someone who stock a fire and still complain of being burnt. Or a kettle who claims to be better than all kettles but forgets they are all black. When I speak against religion, I speak against all of you. I don't take sides. What I speak against are the many errors in your religions and even expose them with bible refs to show they are wrong. I always say what matters is your righteousness not religion. I never come for you cos you are the only one bad but cos YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT EXALT YOURSELVES ABOVE OTHERS WHICH IS PRIDE AND BIGOTRY. When your light shine, it is ppl that will glorify you not yourself. Your wrong teachings are many and ppl can easily see but pride....

You don't take sides really?
You that just claimed that all other churches have truths that Jws don't have.
Oga what are these truths that all other churches have?

Emusan:


JWs don't have the truth of Holy Spirit not a person.

Jws don't have the truth of Speaking in Tongues.

Jws don't have the truth of God miracles in present day.

Can you tell us the truth that Jws has that others don't have?

Ok I have heard you.
So what church today has all these truths?

Michael547:

Interestingly, Nigeria is not the only country in the world today. And Every country in the world has a problem that they are battling with.
The solution to making the world a better place where all humans can live peacefully in equality, peace and love without warfare, terrorism, hunger, sickness and death is exactly how Nigeria should be run.
But do you honestly think that human politicians today can achieve this?

Politicians can't achieve that but let's turn the table around.

Watchtower claimed to be directed by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and God's Holy Spirit.

Why can't watchtower achieve ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED in their midst?

Michael547:

Ok I have heard you.
So what church today has all these truths?

Answer my question first!

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Emusan:


Politicians can't achieve that but let's turn the table around.

Watchtower claimed to be directed by Jehovah, Jesus Christ and God's Holy Spirit.

Why can't watchtower achieve ALL THE AFOREMENTIONED in their midst?

Because we JWs are imperfect. We have never claimed to be able to rule this world and solve all the problems plaguing mankind.
Only God's kingdom on earth can make humans to be perfect and live happily without problems.

Emusan:


Answer my question first!

I agree with you that Jws have no truth.
So what church today has all the truth that you've mentioned?

Michael547:

You don't take sides really?
You that just claimed that all other churches have truths that Jws don't have.
Oga what are these truths that all other churches have?

I think you find it hard to comprehend certain things. I can't be explaining myself twice. Go read well

Michael547:

Because we JWs are imperfect.

You're still not perfect after Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit CONTROLLING YOU.

So, which means there's no difference between politicians and watchtower.

We have never claimed to be able to rule this world and solve all the problems plaguing mankind.

Nobody say ruling the WORLD.

The little ruling under watchtower through Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit is what I'm talking about here.

Only God's kingdom on earth can make humans to be perfect and live happily without problems.

Has Jesus not started ruling?

IF YES! Then the governing body of JWs should have ALL THOSE LISTED POINT IN THEIR MIDST.

bobestman:
I think you find it hard to comprehend certain things. I can't be explaining myself twice. Go read well

Oga you've not been understanding yourself because you've been pretending to sit on the fence.
You claimed all other churches have truths which you are very sure are absent in the JWs camp.
Can we know the basis on which you came to that conclusion?
What are these truths that all other churches have that separate then from the JWs?

Michael547:

I agree with you that Jws have no truth.

And you're lying, why?

So what church today has all the truth that you've mentioned?

You already lied above.

When you're ready let me know

Emusan:


You're still not perfect after Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit CONTROLLING YOU.

So, which means there's no difference between politicians and watchtower.



Nobody say ruling the WORLD.

The little ruling under watchtower through Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit is what I'm talking about here.



Has Jesus not started ruling?

IF YES! Then the governing body of JWs should have ALL THOSE LISTED POINT IN THEIR MIDST.

Meaning that there was no difference between Jesus disciples and politicians of their time.
Even after they saw Jesus face to face and were following him, they continued to argue about who was the greatest among themselves.
So we can conclude that Jesus apostles and the politicians were the same.
Thank you Mr Emusan for this eye opener.

bobestman:
When I speak against religion, I speak against all of you.

The only reason why you speak against all the religions is what exactly?

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Emusan:


And you're lying, why?



You already lied above.

When you're ready let me know

How do you know I am lying?
After we've pointed out JWs to be false, the next thing is to point out the true church na.
Why is that one now difficult for us to do?
Which church has the truth that you've mentioned so that I can start going there?

bobestman:
I think you find it hard to comprehend certain things. I can't be explaining myself twice. Go read well

Guy stop deceiving yourself you've always condemn all religions claiming that it's until Jesus return that we can know how to worship God so when did other churches have this truth while only Jehovah's Witnesses are left behind?

Michael547:

Meaning that there was no difference between Jesus disciples and politicians of their time.

No! Jesus has not started ruling that time.

Or you want to claim Jesus ruling started with the Apostles?

Even after they saw Jesus face to face and were following him, they continued to argue about who was the greatest among themselves.

That's not the issue, the issue here is RULING (GOVERNED)

You want Politicians to provide EQUALITY, PEACE, JOY e.t.c bcoa they are RULING PEOPLE.

But Watchtower claimed Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit are the ones RULING IN THEIR MIDST TODAY, So why can't watchtower achieve EQUALITY, PEACE AND JOY IN THEIR MIDST?

So we can conclude that Jesus apostles and the politicians were the same.

Already answered above.

Thank you Mr Emusan for this eye opener.

Let your eyes keep opening.

Michael547:

How do you know I am lying?
After we've pointed out JWs to be false, the next thing is to point out the true church na.
Why is that one now difficult for us to do?
Which church has the truth that you've mentioned so that I can start going there?

He knew you're lying because you choose to agree with him for a way forward in the discussion after all if you agree with him on one point then the fruitless argument which he purposely came to the thread for can't continue!

Michael547:

How do you know I am lying?
After we've pointed out JWs to be false, the next thing is to point out the true church na.
Why is that one now difficult for us to do?
Which church has the truth that you've mentioned so that I can start going there?

Greetings sir
Good morning
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Emusan:


No! Jesus has not started ruling that time.

Or you want to claim Jesus ruling started with the Apostles?



That's not the issue, the issue here is RULING (GOVERNED)

You want Politicians to provide EQUALITY, PEACE, JOY e.t.c bcoa they are RULING PEOPLE.

But Watchtower claimed Jehovah, Jesus and Holy Spirit are the ones RULING IN THEIR MIDST TODAY, So why can't watchtower achieve EQUALITY, PEACE AND JOY IN THEIR MIDST?



Already answered above.



Let your eyes keep opening.

I have already answered your questions too.
So even when Jesus was not ruling with the apostles, was he not teaching them?
So how come the son of God was teaching the apostles and they were finding it hard to obey him?
What was the reason?