Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 9:23pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
www.churchofsatan.com [size=13pt]Rape In The Bible[/size] Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible. So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives. 1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan. The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse." Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes. Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil? 2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT) They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. . 3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14) As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery? 4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God. 5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB) If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property". 6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB) Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.' Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.] This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick! 7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB) "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." Once again God approves of forcible rape. Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB) They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB) 9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) 10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB) Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB) 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 9:42pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
Ifeann what is ur view on this |
Re: Rape In The Bible by timijoseph01(m): 9:43pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
The Era of d old testament is clearly diff 4rm nw.. Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ.. So dnt be confused.. Those are d lifes of d war-men then.. Mind u,,dnt 4get d commandments *thou not commit adultery,, *thou shall not furnicate.. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 9:44pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
timijoseph01: The Era of d old testament is clearly diff 4rm nw.. Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ.. So dnt be confused.. Those are d lifes of d war-men then.. Mind dnt 4get d commeandmens *thou not commit adultery,, *thou shall not furnicate..
so any chapter and verse should not be used in the old testament ? 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Nobody: 9:45pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
No sense in nonsense. U better grow up, hope ya ve written ya jamb examination? Cos ya sound and behave like a kid to me. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by timijoseph01(m): 9:45pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
The Era of d old testament is clearly diff 4rm nw.. Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ.. So dnt be confused.. Those are d lifes of d war-men then.. Mind u,,dnt 4get d commandments *thou not commit adultery,, *thou shall not furnicate.. |
Re: Rape In The Bible by timijoseph01(m): 9:50pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:
so any chapter and verse should not be used in the old testament ? I guess u didnt read d bolded Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ.. Or maybe u did,, but understand,,, Or u understand but pretend to not.. 4 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 9:52pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
OREMUSSANCTUS: No sense in nonsense. U better grow up, hope ya ve written ya jamb examination? Cos ya sound and behave like a kid to me. you better read well |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:52pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
Tola9ja. From a satanic website? So muslims visit satanic site? Good. All what you wrote are the old covenant,we the "christians" are not bind by the old covenant,as Jesus say you can't put a new win inside an old bottle. however as a christians and it's in the bible, I will reply you. http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-rape.htmlThe Bible does address the issue of rape. As expected, when the Bible mentions the crime of rape, it is depicted as a gross violation of God’s design for the treatment of the human body ( Genesis 34). The Bible condemns rape whenever it is mentioned. For example, there is a particular passage in the laws given to the nation of Israel before entering the Promised Land under Joshua’s leadership. This passage ( Deuteronomy 22:13-29) spoke directly against forcing a woman into a sexual encounter against her will, or what we know today as rape. This command was meant to protect women and to protect the nation of Israel from committing sinful actions. Deuteronomy 22:25-27 mentioned the punishment the Mosaic Law commanded for a man who raped a woman. The man was to be killed by stoning while the woman was considered innocent. Though the Mosaic Law was for the nation of Israel during the time of Moses, the principle is clear that rape was sinful in the eyes of God and led to the most extreme punishment possible—death for the rapist. There are some difficult passages in the Old Testament, however, in relation to this issue. Critics of the Bible are quick to point to Numbers 31 (and other similar passages) in which the Israelites were allowed to take female captives from nations they conquered. Critics make the accusation that this is an example of the Bible condoning, or even promoting, rape. However, the passage says nothing about raping the captive women. It is wrong to assume that the captive women were to be raped. Again, Deuteronomy 22:25-27 condemns rape, even advocating the death penalty for perpetrators of rape. In the Numbers 31 passage the soldiers were commanded to purify themselves and their captives (verse 19). Rape would have violated this command (see Leviticus 15:16-18). The women who were taken captive are never referred to as sexual objects. Did the captive women likely eventually marry amongst the Israelites? Yes. Is there any indication that rape or sex slavery was forced upon the women? Absolutely not. In the New Testament, rape is not mentioned directly, but within the Jewish culture of its writers, rape would have been considered as sexual immorality. As such, both Jesus and His followers (including the apostle Paul) spoke against sexual immorality, even offering it as justifiable grounds for divorce when a person actively committed sexual acts outside of the bond of marriage ( Matthew 5:32). This would not, however, apply to the victim of rape, only the one who committed the act. Further, the New Testament is clear that Christians are to obey the laws of their governing authorities ( Romans 13). Not only is rape morally wrong; it is also wrong according to the laws of our governing authorities. As such, anyone who would commit this crime should expect dire consequences, including arrest and imprisonment. To the victims of rape, much care and compassion must be offered. God’s Word often speaks about helping those in need and in vulnerable situations. Christians would do well to practice these teachings and model the love and compassion of Christ by assisting victims of rape in any way possible. To those who have committed rape, we must remember two things. First, people are responsible for the sins they commit. Second, however, no one is beyond the grace of God. Even in the lives of those who have committed the vilest of sins, God can extend forgiveness to any who will repent and turn from their evil ways ( 1 John 1:9). This does not remove the need for punishment according to the law, but it can offer hope, even to those whose sins have made them outcasts in the eyes of others. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 9:53pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
timijoseph01: The Era of d old testament is clearly diff 4rm nw.. Some tinz are allowed in d OT which is actually a sin nw i.e afta death of Christ.. So dnt be confused.. Those are d lifes of d war-men then.. Mind u,,dnt 4get d commandments *thou not commit adultery,, *thou shall not furnicate..
from old or new testament 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 9:59pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
http://www.rationalchristianity.net/numbers31.htmlMoses and the Midianites Numbers 31:7-18 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba - the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. Moses was angry with the officers of the army - the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds - who returned from the battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Weren't the virgin women raped? There are two parts to this objection: did God instruct or permit the soldiers to rape the women, and did the soldiers actually rape them? It's clear that God didn't intend for the soldiers to rape the women, but rather to take them CAPTIVE . The law God had given to the Israelites condemned rape, in some cases punishing it with death ( Dt 22:25-27). Also, immediately following the command to spare the virgin women, the soldiers were instructed to purify themselves and their captives ( 31:19), and rape (or consensual intercourse) would have violated this command ( Lev 15:16-18). In the rest of the chapter, the women are usually referred to as people (using the masculine adam), not women or virgins, underscoring the notion that they were seen as captives rather than sexual objects.1 It's theoretically possible that some of the soldiers raped the women, but given the circumstances it seems very unlikely. The soldiers would have known that rape was a violation of both the law and the instruction to purify themselves, as shown above; they had also seen God punish such violations with death during their travels in the desert. In fact, they had recently experienced a plague and executions resulting from their relations with Midianite women ( 25:1-9), as Moses reminded them. At that time, all those who had sexual relations with the Midianites were killed. It's highly implausible that the soldiers would have wanted to have anything to do with the Midianite women given this context. So what did happen to the women (and children)? God gave the Israelites permission to marry women they took captive, but they were to treat their wives with respect: the women were to have time to mourn their families first, and were not to be mistreated (Dt 21:10-14). Those who didn't marry would have become servants, but there were rules against mistreating them as well ( Ex 21:26-27, Dt 23:15-16). See the article on slavery laws for more on the treatment of female slaves. Weren't some of the women and children sacrificed ( Num 31:25-41)? No - they probably became servants of the priests. This passage is dealt with in the article on human sacrifice. Why were the men and non-virgin women killed? The Midianites conspired with the Moabites to curse Israel ( Num 22:1-7). When the curse was turned into a blessing instead ( 24:10-11), the Moabite and Midianite woman agreed to seduce the Israelite men and in doing so entice them to serve their idols ( 25:1-9, 31:15-16, Rev 2:14). The Israelites who fell prey to this and engaged in idolatry were also held responsible, and were executed ( 25:4-5). Virgin women and young girls were obviously not participants in this, so they were spared. Why was Balaam killed - didn't he bless Israel? Balaam did follow God's instructions and blessed Israel instead of cursing it as Balak, the Moabite king, wanted him to ( Num 24:10-11 - see ch. 22-24 for the whole story). However, following God was not habitual for Balaam: he often practiced sorcery ( 24:1) and in fact was his idea to bring destruction on Israel by having the women lure the Israelites into sexual immorality and idolatry ( 31:15-16, Rev 2:14). What about the Moabites? The Moabites were a special case - they were descendents of Lot ( Gen 19:36-37), and were to remain in the land God had provided for them ( Dt 2:9). However, they were excluded from the Israelite community as a result of their actions (Dt 23:3-6). |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 10:00pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
[quote author=malvisguy212 post=31654132]Tola9ja. From a satanic website? So muslims visit satanic site? Good. lol you mean churchofsatan.com u can never see a site like mosque of satan because satan can never come near to a mosque talk less of entering it unlike the church All what you wrote are the old covenant,we the "christians" are not bind by the old covenant,as Jesus say you can't put a new win inside an old bottle. however as a christians and it's in the bible, I will reply you.
matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.so we should no use any verse from the old testament malvisguy is that ur law |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 10:01pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: http://www.rationalchristianity.net/numbers31.html
Moses and the Midianites
Numbers 31:7-18 They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man. Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba - the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. Moses was angry with the officers of the army - the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds - who returned from the battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man." Weren't the virgin women raped?
There are two parts to this objection: did God instruct or permit the soldiers to rape the women, and did the soldiers actually rape them? It's clear that God didn't intend for the soldiers to rape the women, but rather to take them CAPTIVE . The law God had given to the Israelites condemned rape, in some cases punishing it with death ( Dt 22:25-27). Also, immediately following the command to spare the virgin women, the soldiers were instructed to purify themselves and their captives ( 31:19), and rape (or consensual intercourse) would have violated this command ( Lev 15:16-18). In the rest of the chapter, the women are usually referred to as people (using the masculine adam), not women or virgins, underscoring the notion that they were seen as captives rather than sexual objects.1 It's theoretically possible that some of the soldiers raped the women, but given the circumstances it seems very unlikely. The soldiers would have known that rape was a violation of both the law and the instruction to purify themselves, as shown above; they had also seen God punish such violations with death during their travels in the desert. In fact, they had recently experienced a plague and executions resulting from their relations with Midianite women ( 25:1-9), as Moses reminded them. At that time, all those who had sexual relations with the Midianites were killed. It's highly implausible that the soldiers would have wanted to have anything to do with the Midianite women given this context. So what did happen to the women (and children)? God gave the Israelites permission to marry women they took captive, but they were to treat their wives with respect: the women were to have time to mourn their families first, and were not to be mistreated (Dt 21:10-14). Those who didn't marry would have become servants, but there were rules against mistreating them as well ( Ex 21:26-27, Dt 23:15-16). See the article on slavery laws for more on the treatment of female slaves.
Weren't some of the women and children sacrificed ( Num 31:25-41)? No - they probably became servants of the priests. This passage is dealt with in the article on human sacrifice. Why were the men and non-virgin women killed? The Midianites conspired with the Moabites to curse Israel ( Num 22:1-7). When the curse was turned into a blessing instead ( 24:10-11), the Moabite and Midianite woman agreed to seduce the Israelite men and in doing so entice them to serve their idols ( 25:1-9, 31:15-16, Rev 2:14). The Israelites who fell prey to this and engaged in idolatry were also held responsible, and were executed ( 25:4-5). Virgin women and young girls were obviously not participants in this, so they were spared.
Why was Balaam killed - didn't he bless Israel? Balaam did follow God's instructions and blessed Israel instead of cursing it as Balak, the Moabite king, wanted him to ( Num 24:10-11 - see ch. 22-24 for the whole story). However, following God was not habitual for Balaam: he often practiced sorcery ( 24:1) and in fact was his idea to bring destruction on Israel by having the women lure the Israelites into sexual immorality and idolatry ( 31:15-16, Rev 2:14).
What about the Moabites? The Moabites were a special case - they were descendents of Lot ( Gen 19:36-37), and were to remain in the land God had provided for them ( Dt 2:9). However, they were excluded from the Israelite community as a result of their actions (Dt 23:3-6). you don start ur copy and paste again this dose not reply my question |
Re: Rape In The Bible by omokab: 10:02pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
I know all the christain in this forum will run away for this topic.They only know how to attack others religion without minding their own.There was a thread like this that one of them talk about marrying a slave in islam,he really talk bad about it but I gave him a very nice reply which make him not to make any comment on it again.I know bible talk more on Killing,force marriage than any other religion,but they will be hidden it. Their pastor will never say anything on it by sunday church service.If you bring out topic like this what they will tell u is that,it is only written in old testament. And I used to tell them why they could not remove old testament from Bible. 3 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 10:07pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
omokab: I know all the christain in this forum will run away for this topic.They only know how to attack others religion without minding their own.There was a thread like this that one of them talk about marrying a slave in islam,he really talk bad about it but I gave him a very nice reply which make him not to make any comment on it again.I know bible talk more on Killing,rape violent tnan any other religion,but they be hidden it.Their pastor will never say anything on it by sunday church service.If you bring out topic like this what they will tell u is that,it is only written in old testament.And I used to tell them why they could not remove old testament from Bible. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:10pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
[quote author=tola9ja post=31654396][/quote]Jesus did not come to abolished the law but to fullfiled it, did muhammed even keep the law? Muhammed is a law breaker YET you muslims follow him for redemption.
When Jesus is said to have fulfilled the law, it means that>>>> HE PERFECTLY KEPT THE LAW AND HE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW, AND NEVER SINNED (1 Peter 2:22).
The purpose of the law is to show us our sinful nature.The law shows us our sinfulness as a contrast to God's holiness. (the law show the holiness of Jesus) to keep the law you must follow the new covenant. |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:12pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:
you don start ur copy and paste again this dose not reply my question you copy from a satanic website and you are complaining. |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tartar9(m): 10:13pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Tola9ja. From a satanic website? So muslims visit satanic site? Good.
All what you wrote are the old covenant,we the "christians" are not bind by the old covenant,as Jesus say you can't put a new win inside an old bottle. however as a christians and it's in the bible, I will reply you. http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-rape.html The Bible does address the issue of rape. As expected, when the Bible mentions the crime of rape, it is depicted as a gross violation of God’s design for the treatment of the human body ( Genesis 34). The Bible condemns rape whenever it is mentioned. For example, there is a particular passage in the laws given to the nation of Israel before entering the Promised Land under Joshua’s leadership. This passage ( Deuteronomy 22:13-29) spoke directly against forcing a woman into a sexual encounter against her will, or what we know today as rape. This command was meant to protect women and to protect the nation of Israel from committing sinful actions. Deuteronomy 22:25-27 mentioned the punishment the Mosaic Law commanded for a man who raped a woman. The man was to be killed by stoning while the woman was considered innocent. Though the Mosaic Law was for the nation of Israel during the time of Moses, the principle is clear that rape was sinful in the eyes of God and led to the most extreme punishment possible—death for the rapist. There are some difficult passages in the Old Testament, however, in relation to this issue. Critics of the Bible are quick to point to Numbers 31 (and other similar passages) in which the Israelites were allowed to take female captives from nations they conquered. Critics make the accusation that this is an example of the Bible condoning, or even promoting, rape. However, the passage says nothing about raping the captive women. It is wrong to assume that the captive women were to be raped. Again, Deuteronomy 22:25-27 condemns rape, even advocating the death penalty for perpetrators of rape. In the Numbers 31 passage the soldiers were commanded to purify themselves and their captives (verse 19). Rape would have violated this command (see Leviticus 15:16-18). The women who were taken captive are never referred to as sexual objects. Did the captive women likely eventually marry amongst the Israelites? Yes. Is there any indication that rape or sex slavery was forced upon the women? Absolutely not. In the New Testament, rape is not mentioned directly, but within the Jewish culture of its writers, rape would have been considered as sexual immorality. As such, both Jesus and His followers (including the apostle Paul) spoke against sexual immorality, even offering it as justifiable grounds for divorce when a person actively committed sexual acts outside of the bond of marriage ( Matthew 5:32). This would not, however, apply to the victim of rape, only the one who committed the act. Further, the New Testament is clear that Christians are to obey the laws of their governing authorities ( Romans 13). Not only is rape morally wrong; it is also wrong according to the laws of our governing authorities. As such, anyone who would commit this crime should expect dire consequences, including arrest and imprisonment. To the victims of rape, much care and compassion must be offered. God’s Word often speaks about helping those in need and in vulnerable situations. Christians would do well to practice these teachings and model the love and compassion of Christ by assisting victims of rape in any way possible. To those who have committed rape, we must remember two things. First, people are responsible for the sins they commit. Second, however, no one is beyond the grace of God. Even in the lives of those who have committed the vilest of sins, God can extend forgiveness to any who will repent and turn from their evil ways ( 1 John 1:9). This does not remove the need for punishment according to the law, but it can offer hope, even to those whose sins have made them outcasts in the eyes of others.
delete it then,was it not the same god/jesus who ordered them,or he was high on ogogoro mixed with weed 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Ifeann(f): 10:15pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja: www.churchofsatan.com
[size=13pt]Rape In The Bible[/size]
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
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3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
[size=18pt] it is funny how some christians are already saying this is the old testament and some things were allowed.. wow...Christains wake up and read the bible and defend it with truth. Christains Read the context and explain the content of the book that contains the message that ur belief is based on... For example the muslim using Al taqiyyah quoted , "They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)..... ■ if u read the bible u will see this verse the muslim quoted is a comment made by common attendants of a woman called Sisera who was wondering why her son was late in coming home.. this is not instructions From the bible only a record of an event during the leadership of judges in ancient isreal. Same can be said for many of these verses... [/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:16pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tartar9: delete it then,was it not the same god/jesus who ordered them,or he was high on ogogoro mixed with weed thank God,your post indicate JESUS IS LORD. Now read the reply again. 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by samuelezekiel(m): 10:29pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
omokab: I know all the christain in this forum will run away for this topic.They only know how to attack others religion without minding their own.There was a thread like this that one of them talk about marrying a slave in islam,he really talk bad about it but I gave him a very nice reply which make him not to make any comment on it again.I know bible talk more on Killing,rape violent tnan any other religion,but they be hidden it.Their pastor will never say anything on it by sunday church service.If you bring out topic like this what they will tell u is that,it is only written in old testament.And I used to tell them why they could not remove old testament from Bible. you see b4 u point to other people misdeeds u shld look at urs first, talking abt preacher, what abt ur preach and the boko harams the well learned Muslim knows the book haram, ISIS and their kind are doing according to what ur Quran says but they refuse to acknowledge it...and make u beliv otherwise...and the problem with most Muslim is that they can not read the Quran and those that can read it can not translate it, so what ever translation is given to they they jus accept it without researching the Quran on their own... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 10:40pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Jesus did not come to abolished the law but to fullfiled it, did muhammed even keep the law? Muhammed is a law breaker YET you muslims follow him for redemption.
When Jesus is said to have fulfilled the law, it means that>>>> HE PERFECTLY KEPT THE LAW AND HE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW, AND NEVER SINNED (1 Peter 2:22).
The purpose of the law is to show us our sinful nature.The law shows us our sinfulness as a contrast to God's holiness. (the law show the holiness of Jesus) to keep the law you must follow the new covenant. Jesus kept the law but christian reject it ? |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:49pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:
Jesus kept the law but christian reject it ? where do you see christians reject the law? Jesus summoned the ten commandment with just ONE word "LOVE" the bible define salvation as 'a work of God base on the belief of Jesus christ" if you believe in Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour, his righteousness will indwell in you, and you will not break the law. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by omokab: 10:54pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
samuelezekiel:
you see b4 u point to other people misdeeds u shld look at urs first, talking abt preacher, what abt ur preach and the boko harams the well learned Muslim knows the book haram, ISIS and their kind are doing according to what ur Quran says but they refuse to acknowledge it...and make u beliv otherwise...and the problem with most Muslim is that they can not read the Quran and those that can read it can not translate it, so what ever translation is given to they they jus accept it without researching the Quran on their own... to be sincere with you,our Imam always preach against violent in every jumat prayers.If you don't know ask about the meaning of surat jumua.Most of the Imam use this as a tool to advice muslim not to engage in any crime and be good to others.Not be good to only muslim but all human being.Only a fool will believe boko is a islam thing.Is there any war between a muslim and other religion?capital NO.Even if there is a war they have violated so many rules that guide Holy war.To your second concern about muslim that can't read quaran.I don't see how that one is your concern.Bible was written in hebrew,can you read hebrew.we have english,yoruba and hausa quran in Nigeria.Is I can read and understand in any other language which means Is okay for me.One good thing with quran is that it is well explanatory.for instance marriage,how you can meet your,the quality to see before you can marry your wife,how to meet the family,who should follow you to you wife house,what you should pay has dowry to your wife your responsibility after you have marry your wife and others which time of space will not allow me to type.So about holy war there are some instances that will lead to war not the type of war boko is fighting. |
Re: Rape In The Bible by tola9ja: 11:22pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
malvisguy212: where do you see christians reject the law? Jesus summoned the ten commandment with just ONE word "LOVE" the bible define salvation as 'a work of God base on the belief of Jesus christ" if you believe in Jesus as your Lord and personal saviour, his righteousness will indwell in you, and you will not break the law. the ten commandment is in the new or old testament ? Pope Claims The Quran is a Book of Peace http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/30/uk-pope-turkey-mideast-idUKKCN0JE0AB20141130 |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 11:36pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja:
the ten commandment is in the new or old testament ?
Pope Claims The Quran is a Book of Peace
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/11/30/uk-pope-turkey-mideast-idUKKCN0JE0AB20141130 what are your points here? Did I not say christians do not abandoned the law? Paul say "if the law do not say, thou shall not covet , I wouldn't have know what is covet" in other word,without the law I wouldn't have known sin, so the law is NOT the instrument by which man would save himself, but it was the instrument through which man was to be saved. I don't care what the pope say, any teaching that contradicts God divine truth is satanic. |
Re: Rape In The Bible by malvisguy212: 11:38pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
omokab: to be sincere with you,our Imam always preach against violent in every jumat prayers.If you don't know ask about the meaning of surat jumua.Most of the Imam use this as a tool to advice muslim not to engage in any crime and be good to others.Not be good to only muslim but all human being.Only a fool will believe boko is a islam thing.Is there any war between a muslim and other religion?capital NO.Even if there is a war they have violated so many rules that guide Holy war.To your second concern about muslim that can't read quaran.I don't see how that one is your concern.Bible was written in hebrew,can you read hebrew.we have english,yoruba and hausa quran in Nigeria.Is I can read and understand in any other language which means Is okay for me.One good thing with quran is that it is well explanatory.for instance marriage,how you can meet your,the quality to see before you can marry your wife,how to meet the family,who should follow you to you wife house,what you should pay has dowry to your wife your responsibility after you have marry your wife and others which time of space will not allow me to type.So about holy war there are some instances that will lead to war not the type of war boko is fighting. https://www.nairaland.com/2092548/root-caused-islamic-terrorism |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Jaypea98: 11:52pm On Mar 15, 2015 |
tola9ja: www.churchofsatan.com
[size=13pt]Rape In The Bible[/size]
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
ay shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Okay what does your "holy Quran say about MOHAMMED " the self proclaimed "last prophet" having sex with several underaged girls against their will even at the age of 54 or so so he blaeeeped a 9 year old .....Wasnt that rape? I leave that for your conscience to judge. A religion of fallacy .One that believes that Jesus was never crucified instead claiming that Judas is Carriot was subbed instead.... Are you aware of the magnitude of sorrow that Mohammed and Islam is putting the world through currently?. own coin.You can whine because Christians are peace loving people nd wouldnt stoop so low as to pay you with your own coin Let me boldly state that i absolutely respect Muslim s who detach themselves from those vices .My best friend right from nursery school is a muslim till this very moments he hasnt exhibited traits of hate unlike you. Now thats what you call a true MUSLIM. All your topics nd posts have only portrayed hate and great intolerance for Christians. You even went as far as Quoting a write up from devilish website sch as Churchofsatan.com just to convince yourself and the gullible few of how right you are. Q::How many Christians, commit rape, child marriage, murder and suchlike on the basis of the teachings of the Bible If only you'd only take time to read M Mohammed's biography. 1 Like |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Empiree: 12:07am On Mar 16, 2015 |
omokab: I know all the christain in this forum will run away for this topic.They only know how to attack others religion without minding their own.There was a thread like this that one of them talk about marrying a slave in islam,he really talk bad about it but I gave him a very nice reply which make him not to make any comment on it again.I know bible talk more on Killing,force marriage than any other religion,but they will be hidden it. Their pastor will never say anything on it by sunday church service.If you bring out topic like this what they will tell u is that,it is only written in old testament. And I used to tell them why they could not remove old testament from Bible. They are a waste of time. They need to be snubbed sometimes. They will try to justify or bring silly explanation to clear their guilt from those violence verses in the Bible. But if muslims tried to explain likewise, they dubbed us "taqqiya". It's strategy which is not new to me by the way. Good observation.^ 2 Likes |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Jaypea98: 12:13am On Mar 16, 2015 |
omokab: to be sincere with you,our Imam always preach against violent in every jumat prayers.If you don't know ask about the meaning of surat jumua.Most of the Imam use this as a tool to advice muslim not to engage in any crime and be good to others.Not be good to only muslim but all human being.Only a fool will believe boko is a islam thing.Is there any war between a muslim and other religion?capital NO.Even if there is a war they have violated so many rules that guide Holy war.To your second concern about muslim that can't read quaran.I don't see how that one is your concern.Bible was written in hebrew,can you read hebrew.we have english,yoruba and hausa quran in Nigeria.Is I can read and understand in any other language which means Is okay for me.One good thing with quran is that it is well explanatory.for instance marriage,how you can meet your,the quality to see before you can marry your wife,how to meet the family,who should follow you to you wife house,what you should pay has dowry to your wife your responsibility after you have marry your wife and others which time of space will not allow me to type.So about holy war there are some instances that will lead to war not the type of war boko is fighting. Read about mohammed and his coerce ways of integrating people into islam and how he collected 25% of all the spoils of raids on rich men in carav ans . Dont tell me ISIS and Al Quieda isnt muslim 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Jaypea98: 12:47am On Mar 16, 2015 |
Empiree: They are a waste of time. They need to be snubbed sometimes. They will try to justify or bring silly explanation to clear their guilt from those violence verses in the Bible. But if muslims tried to explain likewise, they dubbed us "taqqiya". It's strategy which is not new to me by the way.
Good observation.^ Cc:Malvisguy212 CcTola9ja Cc:Omokab Thatz how t has always been their scholars denounce Christianity yet they are quick to quote the bible at any given chance just to justify their claims Example: They Agree that Jesus "isah" never sinned. They say that judas was subbed to die in his place on the cross.... On the cross Jesus said "Eli Eli Lama Sabak Tani" Islamic scholars claimed it was "Allah Allah Lama Sabak Tani"(Arabic) Wierd wasnt it ? Even with their denials and the fact that jesus never spoke arabic By the way the (ARABIC VERSION) of the Holy Bible was released long before mohammed and his islam surfaced on this earth and wait......... not even a single time was the term ALLAH ever memtioned through out |
Re: Rape In The Bible by Empiree: 3:29am On Mar 16, 2015 |
Jaypea98:
Cc:Malvisguy212 CcTola9ja Cc:Omokab Thatz how t has always been their scholars denounce Christianity yet they are quick to quote the bible at any given chance just to justify their claims Example: They Agree that Jesus "isah" never sinned. They say that judas was subbed to die in his place on the cross.... On the cross Jesus said "Eli Eli Lama Sabak Tani" Islamic scholars claimed it was "Allah Allah Lama Sabak Tani"(Arabic) Wierd wasnt it ? Even with their denials and the fact that jesus never spoke arabic By the way the (ARABIC VERSION) of the Holy Bible was released long before mohammed and his islam surfaced on this earth and wait......... not even a single time was the term ALLAH ever memtioned through out
Excuse me?. Was this meant for me?. This seems to be off topic. You may want to read some answers here https://www.nairaland.com/2189813/beware-christians-evangelism-use-deceptions 1 Like 1 Share |