Michael547:

If God does not need a name, How do you explain psalm 83:18 in the screenshot below?

I think King James made a mistake!

Aemmyjah:


Does Jesus who you also address as God need a name?

The name Jesus was given for two purpose;

1. It's the access code to the Father. You pray to the Father in his name.
2. It's for use against the devil and his cohorts.

By the time the kingdom of this world is finally destroyed and brought to an ended, we won't need the name of Jesus anymore. God will give him a new name.

Michael547:

If God does not need a name, How do you explain psalm 83:18 in the screenshot below?

That was the level of the revelation of the Psalmist. Jesus who is the truth has enlightened us more. He came to unveil the fatherhood of God. And the Spirit in us cry Abba Father.

Ken4Christ:


The name Jesus was given for two purpose;

1. It's the access code to the Father. You pray to the Father in his name.
2. It's for use against the devil and his cohorts.

By the time the kingdom of this world is finally destroyed and brought to an ended, we won't need the name of Jesus anymore. God will give him a new name.

😂
Why will God have to give God a new name?

Ken4Christ:


That was the level of the revelation of the Psalmist. Jesus who is the truth has enlightened us more. He came to unveil the fatherhood of God. And the Spirit in us cry Abba Father.

So who owns the name 'JEHOVAH' according to the psalmist? Is it the Father or the Son?

MaxInDHouse:
"When he prepared the heavens, I was there; When he marked out the horizon on the surface of the waters" Proverbs 8:27

Who is the 'HE' that prepared the heaven and who is that 'I' who was there?

"Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time" Proverbs 8:30

So who carried out the creation activities the Master Worker or the one the Master Worker was beside?

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

“I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me;" Isa 45:5

“You shall have no other gods before Me." - Exo 20:3

But today you agreed that there's a god besides God and you have a god before God.

This one was in the beginning with God. All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence. John 1:1-3

You focus should have been on this new highlight and not that previous one.

In Prov 8:27 someone prepared the heaven and someone was there as you highlighted.

Now, you said the person here ALL THINGS came into existence THROUGH HIM and WITHOUT HIM NOT EVEN ONE THING came into existence what has come into existence.

How can this be reconciled with Prov 8:23-27?

Michael547:

So who owns the name 'JEHOVAH' according to the psalmist? Is it the Father or the Son?

You're still on this after your agreement yesterday that.

1. No person associated with the name Yahweh even in Psalms 110:1

2. You don't know the SINGULAR NAME Jesus placed The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit in Matt 28:19

Emusan:


You're still on this after your agreement yesterday that.

1. No person associated with the name Yahweh even in Psalms 110:1

2. You don't know the SINGULAR NAME Jesus placed The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit in Matt 28:19

You don't need to reply my post anymore.....I've gotten to my busstop with you...thanks. The question was for Mr Ken4Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
I think King James made a mistake!

Yes!

My scholars have pointed that out as the FOUR Tetragrammaton letter never appear in that verse in any known manuscripts.

Do you then agree that NWT made mistake also for using that name in that verse?

Michael547:

You don't need to reply my post anymore

What is this, on the forum you own or have share in?

I've gotten to my busstop with you...thanks.

And I'm just reminding you about your busstop.

Or you didn't agree with those things I said?

The question was for Mr Ken4Christ.

Show me the rule on Nairaland that you applied.

Emusan:


What is this, on the forum you own or have share in?



And I'm just reminding you about your busstop.

Or you didn't agree with those things I said?




Show me the rule on Nairaland that you applied.

Enjoy your day...bye

Emusan:

Yes!
My scholars have pointed that out as the FOUR Tetragrammaton letter never appear in that verse in any known manuscripts.
Do you then agree that NWT made mistake also for using that name in that verse?

NO!
That's why we are using NWT but since you think the KJV is not reliable then why are you still using it?

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
That's why we are using NWT

But NWT used the word never found in the manuscripts.

Is that not fraudulent insertion?

but since you think the KJV is not reliable then why are you still using it?

I never said KJV is not RELIABLE I only said it made mistake for USING JEHOVAH which never appeared in the manuscripts and this is supported by many scholars.

Reason why we have other translations to compare.

Emusan:

But NWT used the word never found in the manuscripts. Is that not fraudulent insertion?
I never said KJV is not RELIABLE I only said it made mistake for USING JEHOVAH which never appeared in the manuscripts and this is supported by many scholars. Reason why we have other translations to compare.

Guy instead of arguing blindly here on NL why not go to all those places of worship where they use to sing:

JEHOVAH is your name, JEHOVAH is your name
Mighty father, great in battle
JEHOVAH is your name.

Stop them from using the name since you believe it's a mistake not just trailing only JWs up and down.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy instead of arguing blindly here on NL why not go to all those places of worship where they use to sing:

JEHOVAH is your name, JEHOVAH is your name
Mighty father, great in battle
JEHOVAH is your name.

Usual method

Well, they have started correcting it now that is why you we hear something like:

Yahweh,
Your name is Yahweh
You're the miracle working God
Your name is Yahweh.

Yahweh eee
Yahweh eeh
You're glorious, so glorious in your name!

Stop them from using the name since you believe it's a mistake not just trailing only JWs up and down.

We're talking about Psalm 83:13 what appeared their isn't JEHOVAH.

Any translation that use Jehovah their is wrong.

Do you understand that simple fact?

Emusan:

Usual method
Well, they have started correcting it now that is why you we hear something like:
Yahweh,
Your name is Yahweh
You're the miracle working God
Your name is Yahweh.
Yahweh eee
Yahweh eeh
You're glorious, so glorious in your name!
We're talking about Psalm 83:13 what appeared their isn't JEHOVAH.
Any translation that use Jehovah their is wrong.
Do you understand that simple fact?

The fact is that any organization that's calling the right name with the right work of faith will fulfill what God promised because they are using the right name:

For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder. Zephaniah 3:9

What God promised in the Bible book Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 will be extremely difficult for those who don't know the right name or the right work to do! Act 1:8

MaxInDHouse:
The fact is that any organization that's calling the right name with the right work of faith will fulfill what God promised because they are using the right name:

For then I will change the language of the peoples to a pure language, So that all of them may call on the name of Jehovah, To serve him shoulder to shoulder. Zephaniah 3:9

What God promised in the Bible book Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 will be extremely difficult for those who don't know the right name or the right work to do! Act 1:8

So Jehovah is the right name, bah?

Emusan:

So Jehovah is the right name, bah?

Jesus said with the right God all things are possible {Matthew 19:26} so the organization using the right name and practicing the right thing should fulfill what is found written in God's word!

Michael547:

So who owns the name 'JEHOVAH' according to the psalmist? Is it the Father or the Son?

I am not interested in your question about names. What is important is your salvation. If you are not born again, your knowledge of name of God or whatever will not save you.

Ken4Christ:

I am not interested in your question about names. What is important is your salvation. If you are not born again, your knowledge of name of God or whatever will not save you.

But the name of the son is important to you shey?
Funny Churchian!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said with the right God all things are possible {Matthew 19:26} so the organization using the right name and practicing the right thing should fulfill what is found written in God's word!

I like that, that's why Christians who is the church of Christ are continuing to propagate the glory of Yahweh all around the world and bearing more fruits. John 15:2

Emusan:

I like that, that's why Christians who is the church of Christ are continuing to propagate the glory of Yahweh all around the world and bearing more fruits. John 15:2

By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16-18

If they're fighting and killing their own fellow religionists after praying to their god to help them win wars that's enough to show the type of fruit they're bearing.

Jesus knew that Satan and his agents will surely bear more fruits than his disciples when he said:

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;  whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it" Matthew 7:13-14

Only a handful few finds the road to everlasting life even though they will be found in all the nations of the earth! Act 1:8

MaxInDHouse:

But the name of the son is important to you shey?
Funny Churchian!

It's the name given by which men can be saved;

Acts4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

It's the only name that grants you access to the Father;

John 16:23-24
23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

At the mention of the name of Jesus, demons flee and the sick get healed;
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Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Every other names in heaven, on earth and underneath the earth (hell) bow to the name of Jesus;

Philippians 2:9-11
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus name so mighty, so powerful and so wonderful. Hallelujah.

Ken4Christ:

Jesus name so mighty, so powerful and so wonderful. Hallelujah.

Deluded Churchian!

God's word says:

And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls. Joel 2:32

Paul quoted the above! Romans 10:13

Jesus taught his listeners the importance of his father's name! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26

So it's the name of the Son that only matters yet the father's name is useless to you shey?

Funny Churchian!

MaxInDHouse:
By their FRUITS you will know them! Matthew 7:16-18

Of course and that's why we are bearing more FRUITS as Jesus said John 15:2

If they're fighting and killing their own fellow religionists after praying to their god to help them win wars that's enough to show the type of fruit they're bearing.

No Christian is fighting war today with another religion not to talk of fighting themselves.

If you have your evidence bring it here.

Jesus knew that Satan and his agents will surely bear more fruits than his disciples when he said:

“Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;  whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it" Matthew 7:13-14

No! Jesus didn't say that stop lying against our Lord and Saviour.

What Jesus says was "Those who abide in Him will BEAR MORE FRUITS

So, only us THE TRUE CHRISTIAN doing that today.

Only a handful few finds the road to everlasting life even though they will be found in all the nations of the earth! Act 1:8

Yes! The whole Christ body today are still FEW compare to the world POPULATION.

MaxInDHouse:

Deluded Churchian!

God's word says:

And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls. Joel 2:32

Paul quoted the above! Romans 10:13

Jesus taught his listeners the importance of his father's name! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26

So it's the name of the Son that only matters yet the father's name is useless to you shey?

Funny Churchian!

Why Jesus Himself didn't use the said NAME during His time?

The below chat is for you till now No! Jws can answer that

Emusan:

Why Jesus Himself didn't use the said NAME during His time?
The below chat is for you till now No! Jws can answer that

Misinformed Churchians quoting one another!

Moses said to the Israelites:

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah." Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus quoted Moses :

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah," Mark 12:29

Check the preface of that version you're using it will tell you that it's the divine name they replaced using the title "LORD" so that is the same name Jesus used but enemies of God don't want to use God's name in His own book Bible.

MaxInDHouse:

Deluded Churchian!

God's word says:

And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be those who escape, just as Jehovah has said, The survivors whom Jehovah calls. Joel 2:32

Paul quoted the above! Romans 10:13

Jesus taught his listeners the importance of his father's name! Matthew 6:9; John 17:6, 26

So it's the name of the Son that only matters yet the father's name is useless to you shey?

Funny Churchian!

It's only a foolish lawyer that will use 1966 Constitution instead of the new one to argue a case in the court. You are very backward.

MaxInDHouse:


Misinformed Churchians quoting one another!

Moses said to the Israelites:

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah." Deuteronomy 6:4

Jesus quoted Moses :

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah," Mark 12:29

Check the preface of that version you're using it will tell you that it's the divine name they replaced using the title "LORD" so that is the same name Jesus used but enemies of God don't want to use God's name in His own book Bible.

The name a Catholic Mork coined several years after the death of Jesus is the same Name Jesus pronounced

Did you understand @color part you typed?

I doubt it.

Meanwhile, Jesus only mentioned the name WHEN QUOTING THE OLD TESTAMENT but never dim it fit to use it on His own

Emusan:

Jesus only mentioned the name WHEN QUOTING THE OLD TESTAMENT but never dim it fit to use it on His own

So in a nutshell Jesus quoted the name Moses gave Israelites as the one and only God of Israel shey?

I think that's enough nah or what do you think?

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell Jesus quoted the name Moses gave Israelites as the one and only God of Israel shey?

I think that's enough nah or what do you think?

Jesus can't quote a name coined by a Catholic Mork, didn't you get it?

Jesus never USED THE NAME.

See it again.

Emusan:

Jesus can't quote a name coined by a Catholic Mork, didn't you get it?
Jesus never USED THE NAME.
See it again.

Ọmọ in that case the name "Jesus" is also invalid his parents never called him by that name.

He is YESHUA the prophet/son of YAHWEH

or

JESUS the prophet/son of JEHOVAH

So pick one!