gaskiyamagana:

How story - story about your Jesus - God, god _jesu in the Bible were not affected by Jeremiah 8 : 8?

Think what you will: remember you asked me for explanation of Jer 8:8 and it was given to you in full. Too bad if you didn't read it.

Most people deceived by 419 Agents trust the source of their information and choose to ignore every red flag they see in their document.

The purpose of this text is to show you that your Preferred narratives about the Quran does not add up. Meaning that it is a fabrication

SIRTee15:


Even more disturbing is the fact that ibn masud is not the only Muhammed's anointed reciter that rejected the Qur'an compiled by Zaid. Ubay also rejected uthman codex and held on to his own version of quran.

Muhammed had told his companions to learn Qur'an from 4 people- these include ibn masud and ibn Ubay. Both of them rejected the uthman codex.


4719. It is related from Ibn ‘Abbas that ‘Umar said, “Ubayy was the one of us with the best recitation, yet we leave some of the words of Ubayy. Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’ Allah Almighty says, ‘Whenever We abrogate an ayat or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or equal to it.’ (2:106)” (Aisha Bewley, Sahih Collection of al-Bukhari, Chapter 69. Book of the Virtues of the Qur’an, VIII: The reciters among the Companions of the Prophet)

Islamic scholars know that Ubai Ibn Ka’b had a compilation of the Quran that differed from the current version, which was compiled primarily by Zaid Ibn Thabit.
Among the differences we know of between Zaid & Ubai’s Qurans, was the fact that Ubai’s Quran had two additional surahs, al-Hafd and al-Khal'.

This problem is acknowledged by Umar in the Hadith. In Sahih Bukhari, Vol. VI, #527, Umar noted that, despite the fact that Ubai was called the greatest reciter of the Quran by Muhammad, two of the Surahs in Ubai’s Quran were not put in Zaid’s codex.

Sahih Bukhari, Vol. VI, #527 “Narrated Ibn Abbas: ‘Umar said “Ubai was the best of us in the recitation (of the Quran) yet we leave some of what he recites.” (2:106)’”

Ubai’s codex of the Quran was the standard version used in Syria before Uthman ordered all manuscripts that did not agree with the one compiled by Zaid et al. to be burned. Many still know Ubai’s surahs today! These surahs have not been lost, they have been REJECTED by the Muslim leaders!

According to Surah 3:3-4, these leaders bring a heavy doom on themselves and their followers.

Ubai surahs were not abrogated by Allah, they were abrogated by Zaid and those who chose his text.
The Quran promises abrogated or forgotten things are replaced by Allah with something similar or better (Surah 2:106). How could this be done after Muhammad has passed away?

Zaid et al. should have accepted Ubai’s surahs even if they were only found with Ubai, since they accepted portions found only with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari (Bukhari, Vol. VI, #509, #510), and Ubai’s credentials exceeded that of Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari.


As we can see the so called preservation of the Qur'an is intellectual dishonesty.

Ubai Ibn Ka'b indeed had his own collection of
Quranic material. Early Islamic sources indicate that there were slight variations in the readings and arrangements of the Quranic text among some of the companions, reflecting a diversity of transmission during
the early period of Islam before the standardization process.

Ubai Ibn Ka'b was known for his deep knowledge of the Qur'an and was one of the few individuals whom the Prophet pbuh specifically mentioned as being excellent in Quranic recitation. His compilation
included a few additional phrases and different wordings, which are considered part of the early textual history of the Quranic text.

Zaid Ibn Thabit was chosen by Caliph Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) to lead a committee to compile an official, standardized mushaf (written copy of the Quran) to preserve the integrity of the Quran and ensure
its uniformity across the rapidly expanding Muslim world. This standardized mushaf omitted the variants and personalized annotations from individual companions codices, focusing on the Quranic text that was agreed upon by consensus to be recited by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

These early codices did not represent different Qurans but rather different methods of transmission and teaching within the scope of what was allowed in Quranic recitation and memorization practice. The Uthmanic codex reflects the community consensus and is the basis for the Quran used throughout the Islamic world today.

Ohyoudidnt:


Ubai Ibn Ka'b indeed had his own collection of
Quranic material. Early Islamic sources indicate that there were slight variations in the readings and arrangements of the Quranic text among some of the companions, reflecting a diversity of transmission during
the early period of Islam before the standardization process.

Ubai Ibn Ka'b was known for his deep knowledge of the Qur'an and was one of the few individuals whom the Prophet pbuh specifically mentioned as being excellent in Quranic recitation. His compilation
included a few additional phrases and different wordings, which are considered part of the early textual history of the Quranic text.

Zaid Ibn Thabit was chosen by Caliph Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) to lead a committee to compile an official, standardized mushaf (written copy of the Quran) to preserve the integrity of the Quran and ensure
its uniformity across the rapidly expanding Muslim world. This standardized mushaf omitted the variants and personalized annotations from individual companions codices, focusing on the Quranic text that was agreed upon by consensus to be recited by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

These early codices did not represent different Qurans but rather different methods of transmission and teaching within the scope of what was allowed in Quranic recitation and memorization practice. The Uthmanic codex reflects the community consensus and is the basis for the Quran used throughout the Islamic world today.

Why didn't everyone just use the Quran of Muhammad?

Was it a conspiracy between Aisha and Abubakar to destroy it?

Ohyoudidnt:


Ubai Ibn Ka'b indeed had his own collection of
Quranic material. Early Islamic sources indicate that there were slight variations in the readings and arrangements of the Quranic text among some of the companions, reflecting a diversity of transmission during
the early period of Islam before the standardization process.

Ubai Ibn Ka'b was known for his deep knowledge of the Qur'an and was one of the few individuals whom the Prophet pbuh specifically mentioned as being excellent in Quranic recitation. His compilation
included a few additional phrases and different wordings, which are considered part of the early textual history of the Quranic text.

Zaid Ibn Thabit was chosen by Caliph Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him) to lead a committee to compile an official, standardized mushaf (written copy of the Quran) to preserve the integrity of the Quran and ensure
its uniformity across the rapidly expanding Muslim world. This standardized mushaf omitted the variants and personalized annotations from individual companions codices, focusing on the Quranic text that was agreed upon by consensus to be recited by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

These early codices did not represent different Qurans but rather different methods of transmission and teaching within the scope of what was allowed in Quranic recitation and memorization practice. The Uthmanic codex reflects the community consensus and is the basis for the Quran used throughout the Islamic world today.

That's a lie...Ubay's Qur'an had 2 extra surah not in Zaid's codex. 2 whole surah cannot be slight difference my friend.

And why would they compile a committee of reciters that would standardize the Qur'an yet the 2 best reciters approved by Muhammad were not included.

Don't U guys get it?

SIRTee15:


That's a lie...Ubay's Qur'an had 2 extra surah not in Zaid's codex. 2 whole surah cannot be slight difference my friend.

And why would they compile a committee of reciters that would standardize the Qur'an yet the 2 best reciters approved by Muhammad were not included.

Don't U guys get it?

The Qur'an is the literal word of Allah as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an consists of 114 chapters, and each chapter is considered a complete and perfect revelation from Allah. Any additional prayers or supplications outside of the Qur'an are not considered part of the Qur'an itself.

If you are referring to the additional prayers or supplications that may have been compiled by Ubayy ibn Ka'b (may Allah be pleased with him), it is important to note that these are not part of the Qur'an. Ubayy ibn Ka'b was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) known for his expertise in reciting and understanding the Qur'an. He was among the scribes of the revelation and had a deep knowledge of the Qur'an.

Ubayy ibn Ka'b may have compiled additional prayers or supplications, these are not considered part of the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an is distinct and separate from any other compilations or writings.


The mus-haf of Ubay b. Ka'b (ra), included two additional chapters and one additional ayah. The first one is entitled "Al-Khal'" or "The Separation" and translates as:

O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we do not disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you.

The second one, "Al-Hafd" or "The Haste" translates as

O Allah, we worship You and to You we pray and prostrate and to You we run and hasten to serve You. We hope for Your mercy and we fear Your punishment. Your punishment will certainly reach the disbelievers.

The forms for these two pieces are clearly like the prayers in du'a qunut that have been narrated from the Prophet pbuh (in fact, parts of the above are verbatim in known adhkar).

Don't I get that you are failing in a pathetic attempt to lie against Islam. Has the one I have desisted from responding to not shared that in
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3324
It was narrated that 'Urwah said:
"The rest of the wives of the Prophet refused for anyone to enter upon them on the basis of that type of breast-feeding, meaning breast-feeding of an adult. They said to 'Aishah: 'By Allah, we think that what the Messenger of Allah told Sahlah bint Suhail to do was a concession which was granted by the Messenger of Allahonly with regard to breast-feeding Salim. By Allah, no one will enter upon us, nor see us on the basis of this type of breast-feeding.'"

Showing that you know the truth that the exception to breast feed Salim beyond the toddler years was just in his case and not a generality but just make mischief for fun.

Ohyoudidnt:



The Qur'an is the literal word of Allah as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an consists of 114 chapters, and each chapter is considered a complete and perfect revelation from Allah. Any additional prayers or supplications outside of the Qur'an are not considered part of the Qur'an itself.

If you are referring to the additional prayers or supplications that may have been compiled by Ubayy ibn Ka'b (may Allah be pleased with him), it is important to note that these are not part of the Qur'an. Ubayy ibn Ka'b was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) known for his expertise in reciting and understanding the Qur'an. He was among the scribes of the revelation and had a deep knowledge of the Qur'an.

Ubayy ibn Ka'b may have compiled additional prayers or supplications, these are not considered part of the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an is distinct and separate from any other compilations or writings.


The mus-haf of Ubay b. Ka'b (ra), included two additional chapters and one additional ayah. The first one is entitled "Al-Khal'" or "The Separation" and translates as:

O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we do not disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you.

The second one, "Al-Hafd" or "The Haste" translates as

O Allah, we worship You and to You we pray and prostrate and to You we run and hasten to serve You. We hope for Your mercy and we fear Your punishment. Your punishment will certainly reach the disbelievers.

The forms for these two pieces are clearly like the prayers in du'a qunut that have been narrated from the Prophet pbuh (in fact, parts of the above are verbatim in known adhkar).

Don't I get that you are failing in a pathetic attempt to lie against Islam. Has the one I have desisted from responding to not shared that in
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3324
It was narrated that 'Urwah said:
"The rest of the wives of the Prophet refused for anyone to enter upon them on the basis of that type of breast-feeding, meaning breast-feeding of an adult. They said to 'Aishah: 'By Allah, we think that what the Messenger of Allah told Sahlah bint Suhail to do was a concession which was granted by the Messenger of Allahonly with regard to breast-feeding Salim. By Allah, no one will enter upon us, nor see us on the basis of this type of breast-feeding.'"

Showing that you know the truth that the exception to breast feed Salim beyond the toddler years was just in his case and not a generality but just make mischief for fun.

So Ubay the best reciters didn't know what's in the Qur'an and what's makes prayer. Abi no be him talk this one....

Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’

What about ibn masud another best of the reciters recommended by Muhammed...

I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah (saw) seventy surahs when Zaid was still a childish youth - must I now forsake what I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah?”

So these reciters who Muhammad praised as the best of reciters didn't know their left from their right...yet Muhammad recommended them...

See as Una throw Muhammad under the bus in a bid to validate a forged quran.

As for the adult breastfeeding brouhaha, I will show up to three adults that were breastfed in your hadiths and islamic literature all recommended by Muhammed apart from the slave boy.

Ohyoudidnt:



The Qur'an is the literal word of Allah as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) through the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The Qur'an consists of 114 chapters, and each chapter is considered a complete and perfect revelation from Allah. Any additional prayers or supplications outside of the Qur'an are not considered part of the Qur'an itself.

If you are referring to the additional prayers or supplications that may have been compiled by Ubayy ibn Ka'b (may Allah be pleased with him), it is important to note that these are not part of the Qur'an. Ubayy ibn Ka'b was a companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) known for his expertise in reciting and understanding the Qur'an. He was among the scribes of the revelation and had a deep knowledge of the Qur'an.

Ubayy ibn Ka'b may have compiled additional prayers or supplications, these are not considered part of the Qur'an itself. The Qur'an is distinct and separate from any other compilations or writings.


The mus-haf of Ubay b. Ka'b (ra), included two additional chapters and one additional ayah. The first one is entitled "Al-Khal'" or "The Separation" and translates as:

O Allah, we seek your help and ask your forgiveness, and we praise you and we do not disbelieve in you. We separate from and leave who sins against you.

The second one, "Al-Hafd" or "The Haste" translates as

O Allah, we worship You and to You we pray and prostrate and to You we run and hasten to serve You. We hope for Your mercy and we fear Your punishment. Your punishment will certainly reach the disbelievers.

The forms for these two pieces are clearly like the prayers in du'a qunut that have been narrated from the Prophet pbuh (in fact, parts of the above are verbatim in known adhkar).

Don't I get that you are failing in a pathetic attempt to lie against Islam. Has the one I have desisted from responding to not shared that in
Sunan an-Nasa'i 3324
It was narrated that 'Urwah said:
"The rest of the wives of the Prophet refused for anyone to enter upon them on the basis of that type of breast-feeding, meaning breast-feeding of an adult. They said to 'Aishah: 'By Allah, we think that what the Messenger of Allah told Sahlah bint Suhail to do was a concession which was granted by the Messenger of Allahonly with regard to breast-feeding Salim. By Allah, no one will enter upon us, nor see us on the basis of this type of breast-feeding.'"

Showing that you know the truth that the exception to breast feed Salim beyond the toddler years was just in his case and not a generality but just make mischief for fun.

Even in the 21st century some of your scholars are advocating for adult breastfeeding.
Dey play...

https://www.independent.co.uk/property/house-and-home/saudi-clerics-battle-over-adultbreastfeeding-music-fatwas-2018087.html

SIRTee15:


So Ubay the best reciters didn't know what's in the Qur'an and what's makes prayer. Abi no be him talk this one....

Ubayy said, ‘I took it from the mouth of the Messenger of Allah and WILL NOT LEAVE IT for anything.’

What about ibn masud another best of the reciters recommended by Muhammed...

I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah (saw) seventy surahs when Zaid was still a childish youth - must I now forsake what I acquired directly from the Messenger of Allah?”

So these reciters who Muhammad praised as the best of reciters didn't know their left from their right...yet Muhammad recommended them...

See as Una throw Muhammad under the bus in a bid to validate a forged quran.

As for the adult breastfeeding brouhaha, I will show up to three adults that were breastfed in your hadiths and islamic literature all recommended by Muhammed apart from the slave boy.

Simply tell what the extra Surahs in Ubay's compilation are and what verses were there first.

SIRTee15:


That's a lie...Ubay's Qur'an had 2 extra surah not in Zaid's codex. 2 whole surah cannot be slight difference my friend.

And why would they compile a committee of reciters that would standardize the Qur'an yet the 2 best reciters approved by Muhammad were not included.

Don't U guys get it?

SIRTee15:


Even in the 21st century some of your scholars are advocating for adult breastfeeding.
Dey play...

https://www.independent.co.uk/property/house-and-home/saudi-clerics-battle-over-adultbreastfeeding-music-fatwas-2018087.html

The beauty of variation in opinion. In the end everyone will give account of his or her own self

Ohyoudidnt:







The beauty of variation in opinion. In the end everyone will give account of his or her own self

Cut the cap bro
Islam came from Saudi arabia, they gave u the Qur'an.
Its the spiritual seat of the islamic faith.
If the scholars from Saudi arabia are saying adult breastfeeding is valid, U should listen. There must be a reason they said so.

SIRTee15:


That's a lie...Ubay's Qur'an had 2 extra surah not in Zaid's codex. 2 whole surah cannot be slight difference my friend.

And why would they compile a committee of reciters that would standardize the Qur'an yet the 2 best reciters approved by Muhammad were not included.

Don't U guys get it?

I am enjoying you as christian in schoolarfool discussion of Islamic Qur'an for nothing other than bringing it to the level of fallacy, fiction false, fabrication and mutilation as strongly, like ublica cord of foetus to mother, associated with bible.

SIRTee15:


Cut the cap bro
Islam came from Saudi arabia, they gave u the Qur'an.
Its the spiritual seat of the islamic faith.
If the scholars from Saudi arabia are saying adult breastfeeding is valid, U should listen. There must be a reason they said so.

As recorded and available in the Nuisance Christian Centre For Islamic Information on religion section of Nairaland

gaskiyamagana:

I am enjoying you as christian in schoolarfool discussion of Islamic Qur'an for nothing other than bringing it to the level of fallacy, fiction false, fabrication and mutilation as strongly, like ublica cord of foetus to mother, associated with bible.

Guy pack if U cannot contribute intellectually to the debate here, go and count sands or better still go guard mosque.

SIRTee15:


Even in the 21st century some of your scholars are advocating for adult breastfeeding.
Dey play...

https://www.independent.co.uk/property/house-and-home/saudi-clerics-battle-over-adultbreastfeeding-music-fatwas-2018087.html

I will be a fool to expect you to CONCLUDE otherwise concerning the argument. Yet l will advise you to check dictionary for differences between advocating and approving out of personal, not concensus opinion and law.

SIRTee15:


Guy pack if U cannot contribute intellectually to the debate here, go and count sands or better still go guard mosque.

What are the benefits of discussing, let alone intellectually, with someone of passionate hatred and fully recruited with fake, fictitious and fabricated information about Islam?

SIRTee15:


Cut the cap bro
Islam came from Saudi arabia, they gave u the Qur'an.
Its the spiritual seat of the islamic faith.
If the scholars from Saudi arabia are saying adult breastfeeding is valid, U should listen. There must be a reason they said so.

Oh please.

Quran 49:13:O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware.

Define Islam and see if prophets before Muhammad pbuh did not inculcate it's doctrine. Many of your peers vehemently state Jesus did not preach religion and best we know Mary his mother and David his great father practiced Judaism.

Where did Christianity come from?

Oh each prophet forms a new religion.

Abraham had his, Moses had his, Isaiah, Enoch etc.?

The Queen of Sheba is believed to have been from Africa. You have reference to her relationship with Solomon.

Ohyoudidnt:


Oh please.

Quran 49:13:O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware.

Define Islam and see if prophets before Muhammad pbuh did not inculcate it's doctrine. Many of your peers vehemently state Jesus did not preach religion and best we know Mary his mother and David his great father practiced Judaism.

Where did Christianity come from?

Oh each prophet forms a new religion.

Abraham had his, Moses had his, Isaiah, Enoch etc.?

You ve said nothing. Christianity as a religion means
nothing. Jesus Christ is everything, what U call yourself is inconsequential- what matters is being a follower of Christ.

Jesus disciples called themselves The way.
The Jews called them The Nazarenes
The gentiles called them Christians.
Any Jesus follower is free to pick a new name if he feels like it. Changes nothing.

So if Jesus didn't bring religion then what did he bring?

He brought the CHURCH. Yes Jesus established the church, he mentioned he brought the church and whatever name U call yourself, so long as U are member of the church which is the body of Jesus Christ- U are following the true faith and on the right path.

Do U get it now?
The way and manners U Muslims try to extrapolate islamic doctrines into Christianity and expect us to accept it will never crease to amaze me.

By the way, the spiritual home of islamic faith is Saudi arabia. U people must face that country otherwise your prayers will be rejected.

Ohyoudidnt:
The Queen of Sheba is believed to have been from Africa. You have reference to her relationship with Solomon.

What has queen Sheba has to do with what we talking here....
Besides, can U confirm U agree that Jesus Christ has a divine nature.

SIRTee15:


What has queen Sheba has to do with what we talking here....
Besides, can U confirm U agree that Jesus Christ has a divine nature.

You don't or pretend not to get how far the interaction of prophets went. Is Solomon not of Israel?

SIRTee15:


You ve said nothing. Christianity as a religion means
nothing. Jesus Christ is everything, what U call yourself is inconsequential- what matters is being a follower of Christ.

Jesus disciples called themselves The way.
The Jews called them The Nazarenes
The gentiles called them Christians.
Any Jesus follower is free to pick a new name if he feels like it. Changes nothing.

So if Jesus didn't bring religion then what did he bring?

He brought the CHURCH. Yes Jesus established the church, he mentioned he brought the church and whatever name U call yourself, so long as U are member of the church which is the body of Jesus Christ- U are following the true faith and on the right path.

Do U get it now?
The way and manners U Muslims try to extrapolate islamic doctrines into Christianity and expect us to accept it will never crease to amaze me.

By the way, the spiritual home of islamic faith is Saudi arabia. U people must face that country otherwise your prayers will be rejected.

Do you not identify as a Christian? You will say no so please tell what you identify as?

Ohyoudidnt:


You don't or pretend not to get how far the interaction of prophets went. Is Solomon not of Israel?


Do you not identify as a Christian? You will say no so please tell what you identify as?

Claiming Christianity is not a religion Jesus established is inconsequential. It doesn't matter...
That's my point.

SIRTee15:


Claiming Christianity is not a religion Jesus established is inconsequential. It doesn't matter...
That's my point.

Glad you accept Jesus or Yeshua didn't establish anything new. He even encouraged obedience of the priests and elders regarding the scripture.

Where really did Christianity come from?

Ohyoudidnt:


Glad you accept Jesus or Yeshua didn't establish anything new. He even encouraged obedience of the priests and elders regarding the scripture.

Where really did Christianity come from?

Jesus established the CHURCH. That's what he came here to establish.

How many times will I tell U.

Now say it after me so U don't forget...JESUS CHRIST CAME TO ESTABLISH THE CHURCH.

When he was going, he handed over his church to his disciples.

And when he comes back, HE'S COMING BACK FOR THE CHURCH, NOT ANY RELIGION.

If U like continue wasting time on the best religion,
that's Una problem.

If U are not a member of the church JESUS CHRIST established, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS CHRIST.

SIRTee15:


Jesus established the CHURCH. That's what he came here to establish.

How many times will I tell U.

Now say it after me so U don't forget...JESUS CHRIST CAME TO ESTABLISH THE CHURCH.

When he was going, he handed over his church to his disciples.

And when he comes back, HE'S COMING BACK FOR THE CHURCH, NOT ANY RELIGION.

If U like continue wasting time on the best religion,
that's Una problem.

If U are not a member of the church JESUS CHRIST established, YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING JESUS CHRIST.

Yes indeed Matthew 16:18, Jesus says to Peter, “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

Yet this rock that is Peter denied him. When a foundation is in denial how will the building stand?

Anyway not continuing the circumstances digression. What more did Ubay's Quran have than Uthman's codex?

Ohyoudidnt:


Glad you accept Jesus or Yeshua didn't establish anything new. He even encouraged obedience of the priests and elders regarding the scripture.

Where really did Christianity come from?

Tell me with references, what are the names of Religions that Allah established?

TenQ:

Tell me with references, what are the names of Religions that Allah established?

Pseudo or fake 'Christian' lslamic scholar ; there is nothing like 'Religions that Allah established '. This is someone who said he needs intellectual discussion about Islam and saying 'Religions that Allah established' . This is part of fake knowledge and input PROGRAMED in his roboticalized reasoning with which he always claimed and want someone like me to argue with him over Islamic matter he is avowed enemy of.
Good luck to you and those who will argue with you.

gaskiyamagana:

Pseudo or fake 'Christian' lslamic scholar ; there is nothing like 'Religions that Allah established '. This is someone who said he needs intellectual discussion about Islam and saying 'Religions that Allah established' . This is part of fake knowledge and input PROGRAMED in his roboticalized reasoning with which he always claimed and want someone like me to argue with him over Islamic matter he is avowed enemy of.
Good luck to you and those who will argue with you.

Sounding like a broken record.

Of course you have no valid answer!

TenQ:

Sounding like a broken record.

Of course you have no valid answer!

What is validity of your question about ''Allah established religions"?
That Allah established religions and you requested for their list and references is invented, false and invalid assumption or question as you have asked, from Islamic point of view.

gaskiyamagana:

What is validity of your question about ''Allah established religions"?
That Allah established religions and you requested for their list and references is invented, false and invalid assumption or question as you have asked, from Islamic point of view.

Allah gave the Name Islam and Muslim to your religion and his worshippers.


What name Did God give the Religion of the Jews and the religion of Christ followers or any other religion (other than Islam)?


A simple question sir. To help you, at least you Muslims say that Allah sent up to 240,000 prophets : the names of their religions shouldn't be difficult for you to find

Momo

TenQ:

Allah gave the Name Islam and Muslim to your religion and his worshippers.


What name Did God give the Religion of the Jews and the religion of Christ followers or any other religion (other than Islam)?


A simple question sir. To help you, at least you Muslims say that Allah sent up to 240,000 prophets : the names of their religions shouldn't be difficult for you to find

From the Quran you often claimed mastery of its language, contents and quoting numerously , Islam is religion for mankind, those that accepted it are Muslims . All prophets are muslims. It was their deviated followers, courtesy of Satan that followed ways of shaytan and called themselves, followed and practiced what the prophets they followed were unaware of.
Objective study of Quran supported the above, subjective manipulation, twist and misinterpretation of it disagreed, and even belied the above.

rspy:
Momo

Give me more PICTURES of Biblical Big BROTHER NIGERIA version of songs of Solomon.

gaskiyamagana:

From the Quran you often claimed mastery of its language, contents and quoting numerously , Islam is religion for mankind, those that accepted it are Muslims . All prophets are muslims. It was their deviated followers, courtesy of Satan that followed ways of shaytan and called themselves, followed and practiced what the prophets they followed were unaware of.
Objective study of Quran supported the above, subjective manipulation, twist and misinterpretation of it disagreed, and even belied the above.

Can any true Muslim call God Father?

Moses said: God said that He is the Father to the Nation of Israel
Exodus 4:22
God refers to Israel as His firstborn son: "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the Lord, Israel is my firstborn son.'

The Prophet Isaiah said: God is their Father
Isa 64:8:
"But now, O LORD, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you our potter; and we all are the work of your hand."

The prophet JEREMIAH said: God is their Father
Jer 31:9:
"They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

The a prophet Malachi said: God calls Himself a father to the Priests of Israel
Mal 1:6:
"A son honors his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is my honor ? and if I be a master, where is my fear? said the LORD of hosts to you, O priests, that despise my name. And you say, Wherein have we despised your name?"


Jesus called God his Father:
John 8:54:
"Jesus answered, If I honor myself, my honor is nothing: it is my Father that honors me; of whom you say, that he is your God:"

Jesus taught us His followers to pray call God our Father
Luk 11:2:
"And he said to them, When you pray, say, Our Father which are in heaven, Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done, as in heaven, so in earth."




So, you can see that both Judaism and Christianity and the prophets of old call God Father.







1. Is Allah your Father(Quran 5:18 ) or the Father of Mohammed or you Muslims?

The One you serve sees you as no better than slaves

2. The Question was, What is the names of the Religions Brought by the over 124,000 prophets of Islam?