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Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Damseldammie(f): 7:10am On Apr 27 |
It’s possible nah, won faa’se mo ara ni 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by SIRTee15: 7:10am On Apr 27 |
Digmygold: U are the very foolish one. Default or foreclosure, U get what U put in the house and the equity. The person renting gets nothing. Who's worse off. Mr penny wise pounds foolish. The wealth of white Americans today is deeply rooted in the generational property investment. Indians and Pakistani in UK understand the game and are buying properties like mad here. Yet some foolish ones are saying blacks should continue to rent. Are U not tired of being slaves to other races. What exactly is wrong with the black man...they can't think beyond their today. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:12am On Apr 27 |
franchasofficia:You are comparing specific areas in lag to whole countries, lol. Why don't you compare Lekki and Ikoyi ( so called high brow areas) to the Hamptons in Newyork or Chelsea in London? But majority of Nigerians don't live in those areas nor do Americans or brits in the areas I mentioned. Let's stick to what gives for the average citizens in these countries. Next Ownership! Asset (which means ownership): House Liability ( how your Asset is financed I.e.debt: Mortgage. Equity: Asset less Liability. Now let's focus on the Liability part (mortgage). At the point you enter into one, what you are effectively saying to the bank is, lend me Bleep amount of money and I'll pay you back over an agreed period of time. Banks are not charities, so they want to minimise the risk of you defaulting on the loan + maintain the time value of the money they are giving to you. How do they do this? 1) a lien on your Asset. Meaning if you don't pay me my money, I'll take this thing ( house) to recover what you owe me. Also it means if you sell the Asset and are paying off other debts, they are first in line amongst all your creditors. A lien does NOT mean the banks own the Asset, if in doubt, go download the financial statement of any bank. What you will see is as their assets( receivables) is the value of the loans they issued. If the banks own these houses as you say, then it would be recorded as a different Asset class namely PPE( property, plant and equipment. But it isn't. So banks do NOT own these properties. Interest is charged to maintain the time value of the amount loaned. A pound today is worth more than a pound next year because of inflation. Interest is charged to hedge the impact of inflation over the term which you will repay the loan+ a risk premium. Now because your loan is backed by a security, is is deemed less risky by the bank. This is why mortgage rates are ALWAYS lower than say your credit card which is an unsecured loan. In both cases, ownership belongs to the loan holder not the loan issuer. 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:16am On Apr 27 |
Digmygold:It depends, does it confer the risks and responsibilities on the holder? If yes, you own it. If no, you don't. In the case of a mortgage, who bears the risk of properties devaluing and incurs the loss? The bank or the customer? The answer should tell you who the owner is. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by rollywise(m): 7:22am On Apr 27 |
EreluRoz: Wetin bring this one come now on top new house? Your husband dey beat you for Nigeria? Let's really take statistics, how many marriages of domestic abuse do you know of compared to the total number of marriages you know? I have never raised my hand on my wife for close to five years of marriage and I can say same for every friend and relative I know here in Nigeria yet I read yesterday of how someone beat his wife to death in the UK. If I be your husband I no go carry you travel. Your mind no pure 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:27am On Apr 27 |
sulaak: Do not own outright: True. It is OWNED WITH A MORTGAGE. Cannot make modifications without notifying the bank: FALSE. Except ofcourse the modification is also being financed by the bank. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Kukutenla: 7:27am On Apr 27 |
Angelfrost:But even the US and UK are worse off in terms of national debt than Nigeria is. What's the fuss over debt? A good number of Nigerians own houses. I can even bet and say more Nigerians than Americans own houses. Owning a house is cheaper in Nigeria than UK or US. Maybe the quality and standard is what you can argue on. Lastly, I've been reading through this thread and seen how Nigerians abroad are glamourizing mortgages and mortgage payments. Mortgage also exists in Nigeria. A lot of Nigerians don't know or don't care to know. That's why I find Remi Tinubu's tribe about Nigerians joyfully doing abroad what they wouldn't touch in Nigeria appopriate. Most of those in favour of paying Mortgage to own houses abroad will never touch Mortgage in Nigeria for no other reason than societal bias and prejudice. Who wants to be called Onigbese? Bottomline is Nigerians are the most confused people when it comes to what they want. But they seem not to be confused about how they want it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Angelfrost(m): 7:31am On Apr 27 |
Kukutenla: Beautifully said...! Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:32am On Apr 27 |
Digmygold:A house is an investment, and like ALL investments, there is risk. What is the point here? The only "risk free" investment that exists is buying government bonds. Even that has risk attached although default risk is remote. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:34am On Apr 27 |
SIRTee15:Renting from the bank landlord😂😂 |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Kobicove(m): 7:36am On Apr 27 |
AfroBeatDiary: This is the real question she avoided answering 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:37am On Apr 27 |
SIRTee15:Leave them. Let them not get on the property ladder if they can. When retirement comes, they will know meme still thinking about how pay to rent Meanwhile today's mortgage holder is mortgage free and does not have to worry about housing costs. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by mediclife1987(m): 7:39am On Apr 27 |
99thEnemy: Are you saying they can't pay off in 5-10yrs even if they have the money to? Must they pay over that 30yrs by force? 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Kobicove(m): 7:41am On Apr 27 |
rollywise: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by 99thEnemy(m): 7:42am On Apr 27 |
mediclife1987:They can clear it once if they have the money. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by mediclife1987(m): 7:43am On Apr 27 |
Eriokanmi: I'm a medical doctor currently thinking of either opening a hospital business- starting with a pharmacy, then building it up from there OR just using the money to jejely JAPA out of this country, cos the way Naija dey go no understand me again oh 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by chyzoo4u(m): 7:44am On Apr 27 |
Harddiskng: If you have the money, you can buy a house on outright payment. My grandfather thought me to always ask "how?" and "why?". See, that you don't see a possibility of making a million pounds in one year doesn't mean it's not possible. It all depends on what you know and what you can do. If you don't know, ask "how?" 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Enemyofpeace: 7:47am On Apr 27 |
Mtcheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew Receipt of the payment or I don't believe you |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Trustedpronet: 7:48am On Apr 27 |
sharpwriter: I'm in Nigeria I have never beat any of my girl friends or a woman in my life talk more of wife. Some people think sey all men na women beaters. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by headboyprince(m): 7:48am On Apr 27 |
franchasofficia:nah whats the point youre trying to drive. you're just using if this, if that. while you're even living abroad. |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Amhappy(f): 7:50am On Apr 27 |
Congratulations 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 7:51am On Apr 27 |
Kukutenla:@ first bolded: just because you are not financially savvy does not mean everyone else should be like you. Debt can be used to build wealth..if you know how, in certain instances. In some instances, if you have the cash outright, it is BETTER to take on the debt. For example: Today in the Uk :Say you have a £100k cash lying around but you need a £100k mortgage to buy your house. Mortgage rate is 4.5% fixed for 2 years. And you can get 5.5% on fixed 2 year saving product, please tell me would you pay cash outright or not? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by franchasofficia: 8:00am On Apr 27 |
SIRTee15:I will respond to you in details. I am writing from experience too, and I am sure my experience far outweighs yours for so many reasons. First, I don't live abroad permanently, I have the advantage of being on both sides which gives me a better understanding and leverage than you. Rented apartment in Nigeria is not profitable you are very correct with that based on experience too. But not that you will build a house with 40million and collect 500k annual rent that's fallacy, except you built a mansion in your village. House rent in Lagos Mainland (Ikeja, Ajao estate, Anthony, Gbagada, Oshodi, etc) and even Island is not childsplay, you can recoup your investment in like 10 years. In most of these areas, a 3bedroom flat is rented between 1.5m to 2.8million a year. If you used 100million to build a storey building of 4 flats, if you collect 2.5m per flat multiplied by 4 that is 10million, if you do it for 10 years you have recouped your investment. Rent increase is also rampant in these areas, I speak with experience as one that have.... Buying lands is far more profitable in Nigeria, that is absolutely correct because I do advocate this, and I have mentioned this in my previous comments months or years back here. I also said it here. I say what I do. I advice people based on what I have done not heard. I own lands in various states in Nigeria and I know it's very profitable to buy lands in Nigeria, especially in fast rising city areas. Now let's go back to mortgage abroad. I have never got one before and dont plan to until I am ready and will definitely be buying outrightly, my elder brothers did so and I follow some of their footsteps because they are highly successful. I have had a relative got his property foreclosed by bank after he died and wife couldn't meet up, so where is the generational wealth? Mortgage is mortgage you guys should stop painting it otherwise. Abi the various news of foreclosure and stuffs abroad, na ghosts them get those mortgaged houses being foreclosed by banks and lenders abroad? I don't like anything loan; be it house mortgage, car loan, anything loan. Everything I own, I own them 100% and that is what I advocate and commend. I don't like people that live their life on borrowing and loans. The bank lending you money doesn't love you, they are praying for you to default so they can foreclose your property, that is where and how they make more profit. Many people abroad lose their mortgage properties to banks and lenders, please tell us why? I will advice any Nigerian man living abroad to first invest in properties in Nigeria before going into mortgage housing abroad, I stand on my initial advice. A friend and his wife made instant millions through Lagos property investment (build and sell in Lekki area) during Buhari regime that dollar first got its mad rise. He and his wife quickly got loan in the country they lived, he came back to Lagos then, bought land and built two semi detached duplexes which they resold twice the loan they got and paid back the loan and owned the second semi detached duplex which they later sold and used the proceeds to enter fully into build and sell on the Island and today they are mega millionaires which he always thank God for that he wouldn't have ever made such money working and investing in abroad in a short period of time. Being a smart Nigerian with intelligent/honest business friends around gives you an edge to make money from leveraging being abroad as a Nigerian. Build and sell on Lagos Island made a lot of smart Nigerians living abroad rich overnight while the dull stubborn ones who think life begins and end abroad remain there working their asses off and mortgaging their lives in the name of dull investment idea of going into house mortgage. There are lots of business ideas you can make so much profit from as a Nigerian living abroad by leveraging your living abroad as a Nigerian if you open yourself up to people in the know, which are far more profitable than going into mortgage to brag to your fellow average fellows that you now own a house, when in reality you don't actually own the mortgage house until you finish paying. 10 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Digmygold: 8:01am On Apr 27 |
shaybebaby: So now the borrower can make a profit via equity but doesn't sustain a loss if the value of the property depreciates? Hmph! Nuff said. |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Digmygold: 8:08am On Apr 27 |
SIRTee15: You are the mad one here. Since you chose to start with the insults. Infact you reason with your butthole. "The wealth of the white Americans" You are daft Like there ain't POOR white Americans. A mortgage is not ALWAYS an INVESTMENT. It can be a BURDEN& LIABILITY too. Get that into you shallow r brain through your butthole . |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by shaybebaby(f): 8:08am On Apr 27 |
Digmygold:Come on! Answer the question and stop trying to wriggle out of it. If the owner is the party that benefits from gains or incurs losses on revaluation , then who is the owner, the bank or borrower? |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by franchasofficia: 8:13am On Apr 27 |
headboyprince:My point is, acquiring a family residential house abroad via mortgage is not something any sensible person should broadcast or brag about. And if you must tell such story, please be honest enough to say it as it is that "you just acquired a mortgage house" so that Nigerians in Nigeria will not be deceived into thinking that Bose, Emeka, Tijani, Nnamdi have acquired a 100% purchased house in US or UK just as it's done in Nigeria, before they go and commit suicide out of envy not knowing that Emeka ati Tijani has mortgaged his income for the next 25 years or something And my final point is meant for married Nigerian men abroad. Don't acquire a mortgaged home abroad except you have invested well in Nigeris, e get why 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by Digmygold: 8:15am On Apr 27 |
shaybebaby: "Ownership" is a facade created by the lender to make you believe same. If you owned it, you won't ever be able to lose it to foreclosure. You keep calling it an INVESTMENT. So people don't sometimes lose on investments bah? Dey play. |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by sulaak(m): 8:16am On Apr 27 |
shaybebaby: You cannot make [b]external modifications [/b]to your property unless you acquire approval from the banks and local council. |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by IkemChris(m): 8:16am On Apr 27 |
Jogs1900: You can get a mortgage if you have got good credit score, good advance payment (which Is just between 10-15 % of your total payment) And a good job contract... Na naija just dey make things hard.. Under one year for UK people don dey drive the latest cars.. |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by franchasofficia: 8:17am On Apr 27 |
shaybebaby:My sister, as a Nigerian lady living abroad you are, mortgage is very good for you, you need to acquire more of it. I have no argument at all, you are in the right path, well done sis |
Re: Nigerian Couple Buys A House 2 And Half Years Of Moving To UK. by LOVEGINO(m): 8:18am On Apr 27 |
chyzoo4u:no be mortgage? |
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