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The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 4:39pm On May 02
Paul says in 2 Timothy 3:16 that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

1 Samuel 13:1
1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?

Emusan
Aemmyjah
MaxInDHouse

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people".
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52pm On May 02
Errors in translation shows sincerity on the part of those handling the book but as for your Quran thousands has been killed yet there is no oneness in your religion politics is still making you people to kill one another.
God's promise is that His message will bring about peace among worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} if there's no global group with such a result it simply means your Quran is FAKE!
smiley

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 5:04pm On May 02
MaxInDHouse:
Errors in translation shows sincerity on the part of those handling the book but as for your Quran thousands has been killed yet there is no oneness in your religion politics is still making you people to kill one another.
God's promise is that His message will bring about peace among worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4} if there's no global group with such a result it simply means your Quran is FAKE!
smiley

You refused to answer any of the questions!
Are you pained so you quickly pithed the Qur'an against your Bible, no be Qur'an case i bring here grandpa? I was thinking you'll say you NWT is the best and prove it.

Were there mistakes in NWT just as the KJV?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21pm On May 02
AbuTwins:

You refused to answer any of the questions!
Are you pained so you quickly pithed the Qur'an against your Bible, no be Qur'an case i bring here grandpa? I was thinking you'll say you NWT is the best and prove it.
Were there mistakes in NWT just as the KJV?

Stories copied and recopied surely must have errors most especially when some copyists are TRANSLATING the message so that's inevitable unless there's something you want to hide. smiley

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Steep(m): 6:52pm On May 02
AbuTwins:
Paul says in 2 Timothy 3:16 that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

1 Samuel 13:1
1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?

Emusan
Aemmyjah
MaxInDHouse

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people".

these are translations, which may sometimes conflict but however with he original manuscript so conflict could be resolved.
The original manuscript literally said Saul was a year old when he began to reign and then he reigned for two years, which from the other verses we know Saul was not literally one year old, the other alternative interpretation is that Saul was as a one year old when he began to reign and he reigned for two years.
The closest translation to the Hebrew manuscript is kjv.

You don't know anything about the translation of the Bible. Different translation uses different approach.

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Aemmyjah(m): 8:01pm On May 02
AbuTwins:
Paul says in 2 Timothy 3:16 that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

1 Samuel 13:1
1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?

Emusan
Aemmyjah
MaxInDHouse

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people".


Use your common sense
If you tell a story to a class about a person and they seem not to get the age of the main character. Some add an age, some leave it out... When someone sees the contradictions, does that make you false?


The Koran, a book inspired by wicked jinn does not know the shape of the earth
Does not know where reproductive fluid comes from
Full of abjugations and contradictions and repetitions

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 10:41am On May 03
Aemmyjah:


Use your common sense
If you tell a story to a class about a person and they seem not to get the age of the main character. Some add an age, some leave it out... When someone sees the contradictions, does that make you false?


Use your brain and answer the simple question!

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 10:52am On May 03
Steep:
these are translations, which may sometimes conflict but however with he original manuscript so conflict could be resolved.
The original manuscript literally said Saul was a year old when he began to reign and then he reigned for two years, which from the other verses we know Saul was not literally one year old, the other alternative interpretation is that Saul was as a one year old when he began to reign and he reigned for two years.
The closest translation to the Hebrew manuscript is kjv.

You don't know anything about the translation of the Bible. Different translation uses different approach.

KJV? Lol!

You lied!

KJV has serious defects among all the popular Bible translations!

You can read the attached preface to the RSV Bible for proof!

Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by StillDtruth: 10:52am On May 03
AbuTwins:


Use your brain and answer the simple question!

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?

He has already answered you. You are just repeating yourself because you had nothing to say.

Unlike your koran which the world can see its completely mad and senseless and evil

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 11:09am On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Stories copied and recopied surely must have errors most especially when some copyists are TRANSLATING the message so that's inevitable unless there's something you want to hide. smiley


God is not the author of confusion!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 11:13am On May 03
StillDtruth:


He has already answered you. You are just repeating yourself because you had nothing to say.

Where is the answer?

Unlike your koran which the world can see its completely mad and senseless and evil

You guys sabi deflect when you can't continue on the topic!
The thread is not about the Qur'an!
You can create your thread on the Qur'an and you'll get a response!
As if the Bible is not the source of all madness, senselessness and devilishness!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Akell(m): 11:21am On May 03
Before you start with the Bible, why not start here: https://www.nairaland.com/8080732/accounts-mohammeds-life#129762057


AbuTwins:
Paul says in 2 Timothy 3:16 that "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"

1 Samuel 13:1
1.NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.

2. ENGLISH STANDARD VERSION
Saul lived for one year and then became king, and when he had reigned for two years over Israel.

3. KING JAMES BIBLE
Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

4. NET BIBLE
Saul was [thirty] years old when he began to reign; he ruled over Israel for [forty] years.

5. NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE 1977
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-two years over Israel.

6. JPS TANAKH 1917
Saul was --years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

7. AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

8. YOUNG'S LITERAL VERSION
A son of a year is Saul in his reigning, yea, two years he hath reigned over Israel

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?

Emusan
Aemmyjah
MaxInDHouse

Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people".

Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 11:46am On May 03
Akell:
Before you start with the Bible, why not start here: https://www.nairaland.com/8080732/accounts-mohammeds-life#129762057



I have already started this one so you should join and not refer me backwards!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:42pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

God is not the author of confusion!

You don't know the meaning of confusion!

You think translators having issues with what was written is confusion?

Guy confusion is when what you believe failed to unite your fellow believers under one so called "GOD" as long as there is fighting and killings among those claiming worshipers of the same God then there's no evidence such a God exist in the first place! smiley
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 12:46pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


You don't know the meaning of confusion!

You think translators having issues with what was written is confusion?

Guy confusion is when what you believe failed to unite your fellow believers under one so called "GOD" as long as there is fighting and killings among those claiming worshipers of the same God then there's no evidence such a God exist in the first place! smiley

Confusion is when you have several translations of the Book called Bible through the ages!
Many people have died believing the falsehood discovered now!

Jehovah had to keep people in error right?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Akell(m): 1:05pm On May 03
AbuTwins:


Confusion is when you have several translations of the Book called Bible through the ages!
Many people have died believing the falsehood discovered now!

Jehovah had to keep people in error right?

Why do you talk as if the book called Quran is one? The book was made from oral traditions, which means those who wrote the book must have brought in their own ideas. Different people have their own versions of the Quran.
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 1:12pm On May 03
Akell:


Why do you talk as if the book called Quran is one? The book was made from oral traditions, which means those who wrote the book must have brought in their own ideas. Different people have their own versions of the Quran.

Abeg go and do the comment on your thread!
No derail my thread on The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript make i no report you to the mods!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:40pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

Confusion is when you have several translations of the Book called Bible through the ages! Many people have died believing the falsehood discovered now!
Jehovah had to keep people in error right?

Your muhammed was born 570 years after Jesus so if your Allah could wait till then before sending your muhammed then there's no need querying Jehovah for waiting till now! smiley
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Steep(m): 2:49pm On May 03
AbuTwins:


KJV? Lol!

You lied!

KJV has serious defects among all the popular Bible translations!

You can read the attached preface to the RSV Bible for proof!
actually the manuscript used by kjv and the ones found later has little or no difference, just minute difference. The use of "grave errors" to describe kjv by the translators of rsv is uncalled for and overstretched, the reason they believed kjv contains errors is because of English used by kjv is ancient and many words cannot be properly understood in the modern context.
As for that verse you said there was contradictions there were no contradiction and I repeat the kjv and some few translations are closer to the word for word translation.
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Aemmyjah(m): 2:54pm On May 03
AbuTwins:


Use your brain and answer the simple question!

Questions
1. How old was Saul when he became King?
2. How long did he reign over Israel?


Na me write Bible or na me born am


According to Koran, where does your reproductive fluid come from
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 2:57pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:



Na me write Bible or na me born am
grin

So why derailing the thread then if you sabi the answer?

According to Koran, where does your reproductive fluid come from
You miss thread! The thread is The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript!

I no fit come dey ask you about the Governing council of Jehovah witness now!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:02pm On May 03
Steep:
actually the manuscript used by kjv and the ones found later has little or no difference, just minute difference. The use of "grave errors" to describe kjv by the translators of rsv is uncalled for and overstretched, the reason they believed kjv contains errors is because of English used by kjv is ancient and many words cannot be properly understood in the modern context.
As for that verse you said there was contradictions there were no contradiction and I repeat the kjv and some few translations are closer to the word for word translation.


It is not minor errors!

These are five out of the many examples of verses that have been changed or modified in newer translations like the Revised Standard Version (RSV) or New International Version (NIV) compared to the King James Version (KJV), along with brief reasons for the changes:

1. Matthew 6:13:
KJV: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen."
RSV, NIV: This part is omitted in many modern translations as it is not found in some of the earliest manuscripts.

2. Acts 8:37:
KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in many modern translations due to textual variations in early manuscripts.
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God

3. 1 John 5:7-8:
KJV: Contains the "Johannine Comma" ("For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."wink which is missing in modern translations as it is not found in early Greek manuscripts.

New International Version
For there are three that testify:

New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses—

English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:

4. Mark 16:9-20:
KJV: The ending of Mark's Gospel in the KJV includes verses 9-20, but many modern translations note that these verses are absent in some of the oldest manuscripts.

5. Luke 17:36:
KJV: This verse is present in the KJV but omitted in modern translations due to textual uncertainties and variations in manuscripts.

This shows how varied the Bible could be according to particular translations!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:10pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Your muhammed was born 570 years after Jesus so if your Allah could wait till then before sending your muhammed then there's no need querying Jehovah for waiting till now! smiley

It is not the same!
I will explain why and hope you'll follow and not ask the question again!

The salvation of the Muslims during Jesus's time and in those 570 years does not depend on Jesus's death or resurrection!
Even if they believed Jesus died or not it doesn't matter!

What matters is their belief in God as one and the worship of the one God alone in truth!
So anyone who believes in God and submits wholly to Him alone through any of the Prophets is always a Muslim at any point in time!

So can you tell us why Jehovah had to wait about 1914 years before sending JW?
What is the fate of those who have died in those 1914 years?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Aemmyjah(m): 3:14pm On May 03
AbuTwins:
grin

So why derailing the thread then if you sabi the answer?


You miss thread! The thread is The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript!

I no fit come dey ask you about the Governing council of Jehovah witness now!

What the Koran says about the reproductive fluid from man
Is it accurate or not?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:21pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

The salvation of the Muslims during Jesus's time and in those 570 years does not depend on Jesus's death or resurrection!
Even if they believed Jesus died or not it doesn't matter!

So Muslims have nothing to do with Jesus! undecided
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:24pm On May 03
Aemmyjah:


What the Koran says about the reproductive fluid from man
Is it accurate or not?

I go report you for derailing the thread o!

Why is it difficult for you to create your thread?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:27pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


So Muslims have nothing to do with Jesus! undecided

Muslims have nothing to do with the Jehovah witness's Jesus wey be Angel, son of man, son of God, etc!

Angels no dey chop!

Jesus chop!

Angels are not born by human! Jesus was given birth to!

JW is full of heresies!

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Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:32pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

Muslims have nothing to do with the Jehovah witness's Jesus wey be Angel, son of man, son of God, etc!
Angels no dey chop!
Jesus chop!
Angels are not born by human! Jesus was given birth to!
JW is full of heresies!

Guy that's why i told you your story book has nothing to do with the Bible!

Angels chop what Abraham's wife cooked o! Genesis 18:8

According to God's word the promised Messiah (Christ) has been existing before the creation of the earth so he is not ordinary human like your prophet o! smiley
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by AbuTwins: 3:48pm On May 03
MaxInDHouse:


Guy that's why i told you your story book has nothing to do with the Bible!

Angels chop what Abraham's wife cooked o! Genesis 18:8

Yeah, i know even angels dey bleep women too in Genesis 6 vs 1-4 and since Jesus was an Angel/Son of God we are to suppose he was with them! grin

According to God's word the promised Messiah (Christ) has been existing before the creation of the earth so he is not ordinary human like your prophet o! smiley

According to God's corrupted word! You agreed that at least there are copyist errors therein so correct your statement!
There's no evidence Jesus pre-existed except a specially made retranslation done for Jesus!

Jesus was 100% human only!
0% Angel! grin

He forgot to tell us he was an angel even for once!
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Aemmyjah(m): 4:24pm On May 03
AbuTwins:


I go report you for derailing the thread o!

Why is it difficult for you to create your thread?


Where does your reproductive fluid comes from?
Is it in line with the Koran
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by Aemmyjah(m): 4:25pm On May 03
AbuTwins:


Muslims have nothing to do with the Jehovah witness's Jesus wey be Angel, son of man, son of God, etc!

Angels no dey chop!

Jesus chop!

Angels are not born by human! Jesus was given birth to!

JW is full of heresies!


But angel fit choke Muhammad inside cave?
Re: The Corrupted Scripture From A Corrupted Manuscript by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:39pm On May 03
AbuTwins:

He forgot to tell us he was an angel even for once!
Do you believe what his disciples penned down about him? smiley

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